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1 minute ago, Rookiescot said:
So you are claiming the statement "Once in a generation" is legally binding? Yes or no?
If its a yes does the statement "Dead in a ditch" also become legally binding?
I don't want to answer for another poster. But if this helps.
Once in a generation, in this case, clearly is not legally binding. Politicians no longer have ethics and regard hypocrisy and lying as tools of the trade, as we see time and time again. So nothing they say has any real meaning and can be reversed as soon as necessary to them.
Also worth remembering, the results of advisory referendums are not legally binding on governments and politicians either. They are an expression of the electorates wishes only.
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12 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:
Well thanks for sharing the views of an English nationalist. Us Scots will take on board your views and give them careful consideration when we are voting on independence.
You won't be voting for independence. Not unless Westminster call for an advisory referendum.
Remember referendums, under the UK's constitution can only be advisory. So even if a referendum was held, in Scotland or the whole UK, the result would be subject to parliamentary debate and vote.
A minority cannot make the law up to suit themselves in the UK, or most any civilized country.
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On 11/27/2020 at 3:27 PM, vogie said:
Anything to divert attention from the mess she is making with the Scottish economy, education and covid. Only the UK can split the UK up, not a one horse party.
Very true. Only the Westminster Government can establish an advisory referendum. It is not within her, or the Scottish Parliament's powers.
But she's always like pretending she's more powerful than she actually is. After she met May for the first time after Brexit referendum, she claimed (according to The Scotsman which reported it) that she could veto Brexit. Then she ran off to the EU where Juncker refused, quite rightly so, to meet her. But she came back and claimed they'd all tipped her the wink that an independent Scotland would be granted immediate membership, which the EU hotly denied saying Scotland could apply and be treated like any other aspiring member; again reported in the media. Then we have the treatment of Alex Salmond. He testified at his trial he was approached and told the sex accusations against him might go away if he didn't challenge Sturgeon. The SNP and Parliament have not concluded this, much too busy with Covid. It's all gone quiet and seemingly being swept under the carpet. She's done next to nothing for the poor constituency she represents. Much to grand trying to play on the world stage.
She just loves being the tail wagging the dog and trying to be the center of attention.
The reality is, that legally, she and the Scottish Parliament, are governed by Westminster; and that any attempt to hold a referendum and bypass the law isn't likely to end well.
I doubt Johnson, with his large majority will grant another referendum, so soon after the previous "once in a generation one". That means, whether she likes it or not, she has to wait until the next election and hope for a change in government that might be more accommodating to her.
But her "demands", speaking like she's the one who can lay the law down to everyone else, and trying to say how it will all be, simply rubs the majority of British people up the wrong way.
Well done Blair and Brown for creating this mess. Rivalling Cameron.
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Outrageous racism. Film must be boycotted. All producers "cancelled". Mass protests must be called which will include rioting, attacking police, looting, and vandalism.
Oh, hang on a minute............................................................... ????
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On 11/28/2020 at 10:39 AM, polpott said:
My son started Taekwondo at the age of 5. Now 8 and loves it. Difference between Taekwondo and Muay Thai is that Taekwondo is formally taught as a form of self defence which is drilled into the students. Not so much with Muay Thai.
That's very different to the UK then. Taekwodo has gone almost totally sports sparring/competition in the UK with far too little emphasis on the self defence and art side.
Having said that, I wouldn't recommend anyone younger than 10/11 starting any martial art personally. At some clubs in the UK parents used it just like a creche so they could go shopping! If you are happy, then fair enough. But the instructor must know what he/she is doing both with the martial art and understanding how children's muscles and bones develop.
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Police brutality is unacceptable. Police officers are not above the law and must act within it.
Resisting arrest is an offense in some (most?) countries and officers risk being physically assaulted by some who violently resist.
Those found guilty of committing police brutality should be punished under law; as should those resisting arrest, more so if they do so violently.
Having watched the video when first shown on French TV, one wonders why M. Zecler didn't simply comply with the officers requests; and why the officers then went way over the top.
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9 hours ago, Thaiwrath said:
It seems that the main criteria to be the army chief in Thailand is, you have to be an outright liar, and, when caught out, just blatantly deny everything !
If this latest fella is not a prime example, previous chiefs, coming out with sayings like "there will not be a coup" certainly are !
And it seems oh so easy to believe Twitter and other social media sights, especially when they say something you want to hear.
And of course, those sites are so honest, ethical with absolutely no agendas of their own.
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Same rhetoric over and over again - like 2 demented parrots!
Britain and the EU even use the same phrase " a deal can be done but not at any cost".
Case book negotiation failure.
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8 hours ago, Bruntoid said:
and a 2% drop in GDP - I mean what country doesn’t want that in the midst of COVID ?!
Brexiteer economics, got to love it !
Interestingly it was the EU who suggested. more than once and rather strongly, delaying Brexit due to Covid.
But of course, they're totally prepared and not the slightest bit worried about a No Deal Brexit!
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10 hours ago, oldhippy said:555
How many men negotiate for England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland, Gibraltar, Malvinas?
England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland are one nation. Gibraltar and The Falklands (this forum has rules that include using the English Language) both chose to remain British in democratic referendums.
The EU isn't a sovereign nation. Not even a federal state. But a trading bloc slowly moving to ever closer union as decided by bureaucrats.
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Just ask the several arrogant stubborn farangs who were wandering around Paragon Wednesday without masks.
Obviously they know far more than all the doctors, scientists and WHO put together. No risk for them.
And those clever "first world Western governments" have made such a great job. Shut, open, lockdown, open, lockdown, shut - repeat and rinse and hopefully no one will notice the gross incompetence!
Many Thais I know read the reports about people ignoring all advice in the West; along with the reports about huge amounts of new cases and deaths.
But farangs sooooooooooooo much wiser - not.
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Yes, privatizing and outsourcing government civil service operations has been a wonderful world wide success.
Just ask any British person!
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2 hours ago, Brewster67 said:
I think the USD will have totally collapsed by then. many leading economists are predicting 2021 as the crash of the USD along with the US economy... The REAL US economy that is, not the fake one presented by the fed and Wall St.
I tend to follow Peter Schiff on this, he totally predicted the housing bubble bursting in 2008 and he is calling a total collapse on the USD and US economy ve3ry soon.
Biden will probably be the straw to break the camel's back.
Interesting comments.
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Voice TV - says it all really.
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19 minutes ago, robblok said:Of course it should apply to the member states too. Seems logical to me. That there are problems is clear too but then you can go to court. Before that you must agree that its just not allowable. If the UK does not agree to that then no entry to the market or higher tariffs. The UK needs us more then we need them. So no deal (while not preferable) is ok with me.
Lets put it this way your looking at things wrongly. You can't expect a member to leave and then get the same deal they had when they were part of the union but not sharing in its burdens. The Brits are totally unrealistic, claiming easy negotiations and a great deal. Why would the EU give a great deal if your no longer sharing in its burdens. That has to be calculated in it too otherwise the EU would give the UK a better deal then its member states. All the benefits but none of the burdens. Does not seem logical.
Lets see and wait, a no deal will hurt the UK more so I am ok with that. Though preference is still a deal as it makes more sense economically.
A no deal will hurt the EU. Anyone who thinks it won't isn't living in the real world. It will also hurt the UK. For how long is very debatable.
No one expects to leave and get a deal better than being a member. To think anyone would think that is foolish. But no one expects to leave and still be managed by the organization that you've left. That's just as foolish.
Both markets are valuable to each other. But not, as both have repeatedly stated, at any price. France repeatedly stating that their fishing rights are not negotiable and must not change shows how stubbornly selfish some are being. Germany wants control, because Germany always wants to control others, and be in charge of the rules which she breaks herself when convenient.
There was a lot of misinformation, fake news and downright lies in the UK over Brexit, pre and post. I'm pretty sure there has been the same in EU member states.
I saw a program interviewing French fishermen. They stated, very clearly, that they would accept lower quotas, as a little was better than nothing. But in this case, wanted a program of compensation agreeing with the French government. It's the politicians refusing to compromise. Loss of face isn't restricted to Asia!
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12 minutes ago, robblok said:I don't detest the Brits just think Brexiteers are not logical.
So they are indenting to pass laws that can break it. That is third world country style. No wonder the EU does not trust them.
Its just that BJ his demands are crazy little Britain trying to dictate rules. Anyway the fishing stuff both sides should compromise. The access to the market only if the Brits agree to fair play but that seems to be something they dont want to do.
Based on current and past behavior only a fool would trust the EU to behave honorably.
France, for one, has always placed a unique interpretation on the EU rules to suit itself.
Your third paragraph contradicts your first sentence. The EU, especially the French are wanting to control fishing AND dictate how British businesses and commerce are run for the future, for ever. You think that's not dictating and acceptable to anyone? Reasonable?
The Brexit referendum result was very close. Stupid Cameron didn't apply any criteria to the result and promised, outside his authority, to implement the result. May tried a bit of trickery to implement it; failed and lost her majority. Johnson took over and went back to the country, winning a resounding majority. The Conservatives campaigned on implementing the referendum result; Labour to have another referendum; and Liberals to remain in. The massive voting against Labour and Liberals showed the mood of the public had changed dramatically against EU membership. I suggest that was mainly down to frustration and annoyance at the tactics and behavior of the EU and certain member states.
The price off entry to the EU market isn't invaluable nor is it necessarily value for what's being demanded, not requested, negotiated, compromised, but demanded. Certain states are playing brinkmanship. And that comes with the risk of getting what you don't want.
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17 hours ago, robblok said:The French are right this should be arranged for a longer period fishermen can't do investment if what will happen is negotiated each year. Its unworkable in any industry if your rules change per year. Making investments is then dangerous.
see below explanation of the EU and Brit side of fishing rights.
https://www.politico.eu/article/brexit-fish-johnson-macron-barnier/
For me far more important is the one market and economic fair play. They should not do any concessions there state support can create unfair competition and the standards that the EU has for products must remain valid else its possible to have false competition.
Also the fishing rights are so minor economically that IMHO its just a point of pride on both sides. I feel that its not really important and they should just do what is said in the article i mentioned.
Perhaps the EU should also undo all the state aid France has given to it's "strategic" industries such as steel, car making, agriculture, aerospace over the years in complete defiance of EU rules?
Or Germany with it's deliberate false statements on environmental issues of cars, bribes by large companies shrugged off as "in region practices" and very weak financial controls on banks? Not to mention their courts ruling German law trumps EU law when it suits them.
France, Macron, is scared of being seen to back down and of the French farmers and fishermen. It would harm is career and French pride.
Germany is scared of the UK becoming a tax haven and having lower costs to become very competitive. But had no problem with the UK losing business to countries like Poland whose costs are much lower; or Tax havens like Luxembourg which many Germans take advantage of.
Selfish arrogance and pride is what this is all about. After all, you can't have a member leave without being punished severely. You must pay and follow our rules forever ...... or else. Not the way to negotiate.
All the fluff, weasely rhetoric and double speak shouldn't mask the realist for anyone willing to open their eyes.
The EU aren't being reasonable and some members have always been do as we say, not as we do.
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2 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:
Whatever swamp existed 4 years ago before Trump, he indisputably made it deeper, more toxic and more contrary to the rule of law than anyone who preceded him in modern times.
Biden and Co. are going to need a HUGE pump... Hopefully they're up to the odious job.
You have more faith in politicians than me if you believe they're all pristine and squeaky clean!
Just look at how many flaunt the rules they impose on others regarding Covid!
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1 minute ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:With hope, I'm reminded of the words of former President Gerald Ford, as he closed out a past era of criminality and constitutional crisis in U.S. politics after Nixon's resignation and the Watergate era.
https://www.fordlibrarymuseum.gov/library/speeches/740001.asp
Unfortunately, I suspect Trump's hard core delusionists, conspiracy theory believers, and COVID deniers will be on an entirely different wavelength for the next four years.
I suspect you're right. After 4 years of hard core conspiracy theories and trumped up charges (pun intended!), it seems likely that many Trump supporters out of the 70m+ that voted for him won't want to shake hands and make up.
Biden has 47 years experience to call on - and he's gonna need every second of it if he's to stand any chance. Especially given the more radical nature of some of those in the Congress and Senate who will be expecting more radical policy implementation. He's got one hell of a challenge to juggle that lot!
And, other countries with "interests" in the US not being stable aren't going to suddenly stop their interference just because a new POTUS is in place.
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5 hours ago, ballpoint said:And so the draining of the Trump swamp begins.
That's right, no swamp before or after Trump. Just good honest politicians 555!
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2 hours ago, tomazbodner said:
Would like to see how many people would still use it when more expensive than taxi. Go ahead and try.
You reckon? How?
68 km by taxi in from congested Kukot to Bangkok is less than ThB 158?? No way!
This extension will save me money and considerable time travelling.
Wish it had been completed several years ago.
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20 hours ago, Mr Meeseeks said:
The only thing disgracing Thai schools are the hundreds upon hundreds of records of sexual harassment.
Yep, and the admission that many are to afraid to report them together with the fact that so little often happens to those carrying them out.
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1 hour ago, Susco said:
I don't thing that applies to Thai hospitals.
Recently I was in need of seeing a urologist, so I called the nearby government hospital to inquire, and was told they had one Monday to Friday from 9am to midday.
So on Monday I went and was told I needed an appointment, and was told the next available was 7 weeks in the future.
When I objected that this was ridiculous, I was given one for next Friday.
I was there at 8.30am, a doctor who supposed to work from 9am till midday, arrived at 10am and left at 11.30am
Waiting room was empty by the time he left.
That's a qualified experienced doctor NOT a medical student. Here doctors often seem to work at several hospitals holding clinics on various days and times. People can see the doctor at which hospital/clinic is convenient.
My daughter wants to be a doctor and two doctors are advising her. Both recommend medical schools with overseas placements. One was very candied about the teaching regimes in Thai medical schools being too authoritarian and formal.
Medical students in the UK are worked hard, very hard. I know from friends' experiences. As are junior doctors. But one of my doctor friends here tells me the Thai system is much much worse, and unnecessarily so.
If you want a very good urologist recommendation, PM me.
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1 hour ago, yellowboat said:
Interesting: This cannot be the fault of, I can do no wrong, cha cha. A military government mixed with unaccountably, non debate is not to blame for an "authoritarianism under the rigid staff hierarchy in hospitals." These people are mistaken.
Gosh this bad student movement may be good for the country but bad for army and the elites. Guessing the families that run Thailand may want the generalissimo to retire if this keeps up. He is the perfect escape goat now for those who wish to remain accountable .
Nice try but total nonsense.
The current government, whilst doing nothing to improve or change these things, isn't responsible for their implementation.
How many years were the Shins in power in total? What changes, reforms or interest did they show in this? Zero, too busy lining their own pockets.
Let's see if these brave young people want real change and not get suckered by just changing the faces back to the Shin team. To secure the changes they want, they need all the old dinosaurs getting replaced and not by younger ones in their control. No more puppets.
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Scotland's Sturgeon puts UK on independence warning: We want a referendum soon
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The UK is not an absolute democracy it's a constitutional monarchy with an elected lower house and appointed upper house.
AFAIK, Switzerland is the only European country that regularly uses binding referendums to determine key issues.
Btw, I didn't vote for Brexit, so assume your sarcasm it meant for others.
8% of the UK's population live in Scotland. To allow those 8% to determine whether the country breaks up or not, based on a simple majority of 51% or just over 4% of the population, doesn't seem very democratic.