Stubby

22 hours ago, CharlieH said:

Heres the bottle info

 

Thanks, Charlie. From what I can fathom, PKFB is a pharmaceutical manufacturing company that makes supplements for the "The Nature" brand, though I still can't find anything on the latter. It's also quite possible that I don't know what the heck I'm talking about. That happens quite a lot ;)

22 hours ago, fvw53 said:

I am not a medical professional (but I graduated in astrophysics so that I can read reasonable well medical science) :  if you take 1000 IU of D3 per day in a single tablet you should be OK / after a lot of reading I am taking 2000 IU a day combined with 100 mg K2/MK7 to direct the calcium produced by D3 to the bones and not to the heart region/ some people prefer to take 5000 IU of D once a week because D3 is stored in the body and that is also reasonable / I would not dare to take over a long period 100.000 IU of D3 per day because according to the famous Mayo Clinic it can be toxic  /  https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/nutrition-and-healthy-eating/expert-answers/vitamin-d-toxicity/faq-20058108#:

Thank you, fvw53, Ithat's useful ;)

3 hours ago, fvw53 said:

100.000 IU of vitamin D day is very high  /  I prefer to follow the advise given on Youtube by UK Dr Campbell        /                   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5g9AVqRsjo                                                                             

The vitamin D3 content is very confusing for the layperson. It reads: Vitamin D3 (100000 IU/g) 1.68 mg. (or 168 IU per capsule). I mean, I take 1000 IU per day in a single tablet. So what 100000 IU/g and 168 IU mean in the same sentence, I have no idea. Maybe there's only a super-low dose of 168 IU contained in the product? 

If someone's reading here who's switched on to all these measurements, please let us know.

10 hours ago, CharlieH said:

378b for 3 month supply here......

 

https://s.lazada.co.th/s.hp4Df

Who makes them, Charlie, do you know? It says the brand is called 'The Nature' and the bottles are in English, but I can't seem to find any brand info.

10 hours ago, vandeventer said:

No, I am talking Grams not MG. Your body does not store Vit. c ,what you don't use comes right out. When it comes out it goes over your kidneys and gallbladder to shrink any stones you might have

OK, thank you ;)

2 hours ago, vandeventer said:

As I have been living in Thailand for over 20 years I have been doing a lot of research when I fist came here  I also started taking vit. C in large amounts  as I was getting sick often from the food and the bacteria. I started with 10 grams a day and was running to the toilet often so I cut it down to 5 grams a day and I have never stopped taking it for the last 20 years .I have been in great shape. All my 3 brothers and my sister have cataracts but not me, so supplements do help, you just have to find the one's that's best for you.

I think you mean mg right? But 10mg of vitam C isn't much considering most supplements average 500mg. Or perhaps I've not grasped your message?

15 hours ago, 4MyEgo said:

My wife buys my Vitamin D3 supplements online from Lazada I believe. The last batch she purchased was in March 2022, 500 tablets x 1,000IU for 754 baht delivered, brand is Healthy Care from Australia.

 

Prior to this we used to buy NAT D online for a little cheaper than our local chemist, who would charge us 420 baht for 60 tablets, so we were paying through the nose so to speak.

 

Now she shops around online until she finds a bargain which includes vitamin C 500mg for cheap as, again Australian brand.

 

You only really need 1,000IU per day, I did a vitamin D blood test and was in the mid 30's which is good, perhaps you should do the same if you haven't already and then you can determine if you need the extra 1,000IU.

Thank you, 4MyEgo, good advice. ???? I'm not sure about IU, though, as that advice seem to change seems between "experts." 

15 hours ago, drtreelove said:

"Just eating an averaged balanced diet, getting sunlight on your skin, is all you need to do."  This is a beautiful fantasy...

I used to buy into that line until I opened my mind and started to read scientific studies about soil degradation. 
 

If there's one thing I've learned in this life, it's that people believe in anything if they want it to be true... and discard anything to the contrary. The counterargument—not only on nutrition but anything—usually goes something like thing: 
 

"Oh, that's BS, that is!"
 

I don't want to take or pay for supplements, but hey, if they fill a few nutrition caps, then why not.

34 minutes ago, connda said:

https://th.iherb.com/pr/now-foods-vitamin-d-3-125-mcg-5-000-iu-240-softgels/22335

And / or

Exposure calculator for UV to Vit-D
https://fastrt.nilu.no/VitD-ez_quartMED.html

Interesting, thank you.

21 hours ago, jak2002003 said:

No one needs to take these supplements unless they have some medical condition that stops them getting enough from their diet. Just eating an averaged balanced diet, getting sunlight on your skin, is all you need to do.  So please, unless told by a doctor, do not waste your money. 

I hear what you're saying, but the counterargument also makes sense. Here's one of many extracts of similar research:
 

Several studies of historical food composition tables show an apparent decline in food nutrient content over the past 70 years. This decline has been attributed to soil degradation and the "mining" of soil fertility by industrial agriculture.
 

Source.
 

And I think even the honest producers of vitamins and minerals say not to replace a healthy balanced diet with supplements. Instead, use them with food to ensure the body gets all it needs.
 

Stubby

On 6/17/2022 at 7:31 PM, peter zwart said:

dont forget to take zinc tablets in combination.

How much zinc? I pop a Berocca Performance tablet every morning. That Has 10mg of zinc. I also read that fatty food significantly enhances absorption of vitamin D-3 supplements. So now we have Zinc, fat or oil, and K2 to get the most out of a D3 pill. Anything else, I wonder?

On 6/17/2022 at 7:14 PM, vandeventer said:

I have been taking 10,000 units a day along with K2 mk7 for almost 20 years now along with other supplements including 30 mg of zinc

10,000 IU sounds a little extreme? In the UK, when you're lucky to see any sun under the low grey soggy winder cloud cover, the recommendation is 2,000 IU per day. Still, if there's no harm in high doses, then it why not ????

Hi folks.
 

I just want to apologize for my late response. Usually, this forum notifies me of any updates, but I didn't get auto-announcements this time, hence my absence. I only popped in this morning as I was curious that there wasn't a single response. Then I saw all these replies. Strange! I've go to pop out now, but I'll go through them all this evening when I get back home.

Thank you all for taking the time to respond.

Stubby

On 6/17/2022 at 12:05 AM, Hummin said:

First of all, find out your needs by doing bloodwork. 
 

I order what I need from Iherb.

 

 

Thanks, Hummin, it's another online suggestion, though. I may go down that route if I don't have any joy in local stores. And yes, I will get D3 levels checked at my next medical checkup, but it's not for a while. Still, I know that lack adequate exposure to sunshine the past few months will mean low levels.

On 6/16/2022 at 10:22 PM, rattlesnake said:

You can get 5000 IU vitamin D by Puritan's Pride (good brand) on Lazada for 365 baht. The ideal mix is with quercetin (400-500 mg) + zinc (10-20 mg) + vitamin C (500-1000 mg) taken daily. All this can be found on Lazada at reasonable prices, good quality too. Try not to go for the cheapest, local brands but for something Western, there are lots of Australian and American brands on Lazada. In case of doubt, you can paste the product reference in Google and look for Amazon reviews.

Thank you, RS, that's interesting.
 

I have seen some incredible deals online, but I was put off by what the lady said about not trusting online supplements. That's why I posted here. I think she was insinuating they were probably not the products they claim to be. Of course, the only way to know is to wait a couple of months and get tested for D3 levels. Despite that, I have made a note of your suggestion in case I have no luck in the real-world.
 

Stubby. 

On 6/16/2022 at 10:01 PM, freedomnow said:

Best to get K2 with D3 combo pill.

I take 5000IU along with zinc.

 

Bought mine in UK am afraid so not avail here.

Yes, I also looked for the K2 with D3 combo pill but was told they're not available in Thailand pharmacies ???? I usually make sure I eaten little fat when I take mine.

Howdy, Folks.
 

Is anyone on here taking vitamin D3 supplements? And if yes, would you mind telling me how much you pay for how many and at what strength?
 

I've been paying around 600 Baht for 600 x 1000 IU. It's all the high-street pharmacies seem to sell.
 

But online, I can see products such as 240 and 250 D3 supplements at 2,000 IU for less than 280 Baht. I asked one of the women in my local pharmacy about that, and she said not to trust online supplements. She's probably right.
 

So, if I want 2000 IU, is my only choice really to fork out 1,200 Baht for two bottles of 1000 IU?
 

Just curious, that's all. Thank you in advance.
 

Stubby

On 5/30/2022 at 4:17 PM, Dene16 said:

It continues to amaze me that people still don't know the risks of this nasty disease. 

Whilst it is true that for many it is no worse than catching a common cold and that more people will die of catching the common cold/pneumonia.

The simple fact is that over 80% of the deaths occur to people over the age of 65.

Even if you do not die, by merely catching the disease, it could do significant damage to organs within your body that will/could decrease your life expectancy significantly, hence why Covid deaths are recorded within 30 days of catching Covid.

Peoples bodies are already starting to breakdown at this age and this disease can advance this state very rapidly through the damage it causes to other organs

IMO for elderly people, at least for quite some years to come, this should be the new normal.

 

From what I think I know, most "elderly" people won't be around to give a toss in quite some years to come. I mean, we're born, we grow up, we grow old, then catch one of the thousands of nasty killer diseases... and we die. So if not COVID, it'll be something else equally as unpleasant.

Heck, your pessimistic realism must be infectious; you've got me staring into a glass half empty now.
 

Sky News UK has started to count daily cases of Monkeypox in much the same way as they did with COVID-19. That is, 
 

"X new cases today, which is X more cases than yesterday, bringing the total number of infections to (enter two digits here) since the outbreak began". 
 

I'm surprised it's getting so much global attention. I mean, the deadly BA.2.12.1 Omicron variant is still with us, wiping out the unvaccinated left, right, and center as I type. 

On 5/7/2022 at 2:44 PM, phetphet said:

They should have rubbed his nose in it.

You sound like one of those aggressive people who drag pet dogs by the scruff of their neck and rub their nose in a poop they did in the house. It seems to me that the guy in the video couldn't hold back, and if nothing else, the pickup at least gave him a little privacy.

I notice that vitamin supplements are pretty expensive in Thailand for some reason. I eat a varied diet and take a few vitamins to make sure I'm topped up. One vitamin I take is D3, but ideally, I'd prefer a D3+K2 supplement rather than different pills, which also increases the price. However, I've been to three of the bigger pharmacies but haven't had any luck. I know it's possible to order online, but one never knows whether online supplements are genuine or not.

So, if anyone here knows of a pharmacy chain in Thailand that sells them, please let me know.

Thanks in advance,

Stubby

I know this thread opened some time ago, but the topic never goes out of date. 

DRUNKS CAN'T HOPE FOR CHANGE

Hoping for change won't yield any results; it must come from positive action. But, unfortunately, many drunks fail to quit because they cling to the 'just one more day/week' or, I'll stop on (insert date here).' The trouble is they mean it, and that's what keeps them going... they believe their own BS as they keep moving the goalposts. 

Drunks always find "justifiable reasons" for "just one more" or a more appropriate date to stop. And so the cycle continues, sometimes for years, other times till the end. 

Henry Ford once said, and I quote:

"If you always do what you've always done, you'll always get what you've always got." 

It's true, and it applies to all areas of life.

THE POWER OF DRY FRIENDS 

The best way to stay away from booze is to make new friends, others who have been where you are now but no longer drink. See, people need people, and it's all about sticking with those who can understand and support each other. Seriously, there's real power in quality relations.

LEARN WHO YOUR REAL MATES ARE

Now, that doesn't mean you have to say goodbye or stay away from friends who drink. It just means you meet up with them when they're not drinking or make your excuses and leave if they start. If they rib you and try to get you to change your mind, well... who needs friends like that, right? 

Finally, it's a good idea to stay away from wet places until your sobriety is under control. And even then, it's advisable to visit them with sober friends.

Stubby

16 hours ago, Bday Prang said:

not much different to alcohol in that respect,   many people enjoy the effects with no problems , whereas others..............

Fair enough. So you're saying that most people who take yabba for occasional recreational use enjoy it without severe consequences? From what I've read, one in ten drinkers become alcoholics. Maybe that's a similar statistic for addicts in general. However, there will be the so-called problem drinkers (borderline alkies) in between. I'm surprised yabba is still a problem in Thailand, though. I thought its price went through the roof in Taksin's reign.