TheKeeNok

Man, hard to imagine a woman saying such things. Demoralizing.

"Whites are superior economically, generally, but not always.....and they are resented and hated....for that"

So, been "superior economically" ...

they are always right?

are automatically given the right to rule the world?

all "non-whites" are 2^nd class, low cast or whatever?

And been "superior economically" makes a person a perfect Human Being?

How was this "economic superiority" achieved in the first place?(Somewhere in history, it sure does mention it)

Is it not this 'superiority complex' that is destroying this whole world slowly, but surely?

Singapore and Japan have an unadjusted percapita income of 5ok. Korea and Taiwan sit at 27K. China's is about the same as Thailand! On a PPP basis the numbers do change. On a PPP basis Japan, Korea and Taiwan are at 32-37k a year. India\s is at about half China s. This without colonization,not bad at all if you ask me!!

"Whites are superior economically, generally, but not always.....and they are resented and hated....for that"

So, been "superior economically" ...

they are always right?

Yeah but that era is coming to an end now everyone knows that the last 10-15 years of Western economic prosperity were a mirage. Just look at soi Cowboy of an evening - far more Indians, Blacks, non-Thai Asians and Middle Easterners and fewer white faces.

I predict riots on the streets of every major US and European city within 3 years when they can't afford the stuff they've taken for granted for so long because there's too much demand for it from the newly-moneyed "brown people".

They've already begun. They'll no doubt get worse...

Ask any American the about the state of many of their cities. In the past itwas just Detriot, but now? shudder....

A dystopian future awaits for many. If you\ve already bought into an upper class neighborhood your good, otherwise there is always the lottery!

We are witnessing a tectonic shift in the way the world rolls...It'll no doubt be some interesting sh#t!

Yeah thais are racist.Move on.

And the people in your home country are any better? LMFAO!! Most assuredly worse!

Peace brother!

Have heard that a number of workers there make more $$ than doctors due to hazards involved. Toxic chemicals have led to a much higher rate of cancer and lther aliments.

Some prices have gone up, some have gone down, some have stayed the same. The main problem in Thailand is that the Baht is overvalued, which makes many things cost more here than they would in Europe, and that is just plain silly.

A strong Baht makes imports cheaper. Around 20% since about 2 years ago.

Instead of lowering prices, importers and shops just cash in the gain. But you can be sure, once the Baht will weaken again, that would be reason enough to raise prices.

What do you figure the true value of the Bhat to be?

What do you figure the value of the bhat to be when the USD crashes?

Amazingly crazi ass collection!

Any military folk who would guess at an age/era for this photo?

From the Chanthaboon Waterfront Community site, but no info provided.

pack of early sex tourists

Guys on R&R. Precursor to places like Pataya?

VT,

If you have ligit work in Thailand, can you apply for a Thai credit card?

I'm half Filipina Half Spanish but been living in Thailand longer than in the Philippines. I can say Thailand is my second home already. It's not bad comparing both of these countries as they have their own pros and cons. It's the stupid and super corrupt government in the Philippines that made it so bad!!! The Thai politicians are corrupt too but they know how to downplay it and they still give 40% out of the 100% (if u know what i mean;P). Unlike in PI, people will be lucky to get 10%

It's safer in Thailand and more opportunities. My family settled here for good. Thais may not be the smartest people but they are fun and crazy!! and I love crazy!! (in a good way^_^). I went to visit PI last year and my heart broke seeing all those poor kids, I'm not used to it I basically grew up in Thailand. When the right time comes and I have enough source and money, I will open a charity house in PI and help as much as I can.

I LOVE PHILIPPINES AND THAILAND!! ..DON'T LET THE NEGATIVITY OF BOTH COUNTRIES AFFECT THE POSITIVE ONES...'CAUSE THERE ARE MORE TO IT THAN JUST WHORES AND BAD FOOD.

Why does every other Filipino say that they are HALF SPANISH? I have to brush up on my history,but didnt the Spanish leave over a 100 years ago? So ur sayin that both ur mother and father are half spanosh so u urself are hald spanish? OR perhaps ur father or mother is a full blooded spanard(which I Hfind HIGHLY unlikely).

At best you have SOME Spanish blood and IF that is the case is it something to be proud of? It is likely that the spanish blood would have come from the male side, which leads one to wonder what the female side was up to! Some dangerous waters ur entering by sayingur part spanish. Id deny it altogether! LOL

This is all rubbish hermes....

Based on only two visits to Philippines (Manila, Angeles, Luzon, Cebu City) and many years sojourning in Thailand - plus having travelled and worked in 17 other Asian countries...

Philippines

Pros

- service staff are very polite, not exectly sweet, but much more polite than in Thailand. They call you 'Sir'

It is not done out of politeness, it is simply cultural. Filippinos are overly polite becasue the alternative is killing one another.

- better educated, although a minority of the population, the upper class has been to university and has real job skills too

Education is not better, not by a long shot and the % of children passed through K-6 I would wager is far lower than Thailand as well. Universites are not that great, many doctors can't pass boards and end up as nurses abroad. Many (most) nurses end up as caregivers. Filippinos in the street are very thick. They are great at conniving and scheming. That is about it.

- Much better English. I have never been to a nation as developed as Thailand where English skills are so poor.

OK, so Thai's are lazy about English but most Filippinos do not speak English well if at all. That is a huge misconception.

- Keep their religion to themselves. Whether they are Catholic or Eglisia Cristos, they don't wear it on their sleeves as in Siam. I find them less superficial in keeping their religion. If they are secular or irreligious they don't make a show of it to impress others.

HOLY JEEBUS! You are joking right? Filippinos are Catholic to the core and wear it on their sleeves.

- Much easier to get a regular girlfriend and wife

Yes, I poor woman from desparate circumstances who happens at the moment not to have been shunted into the prosti business. At night they go online and show their titties and lie and swindle punters in every free dating site that exists.

So, the Thai's make you work for it, is that what you are saying?

- Beer significantly cheaper (I am a non-drinker and could care less, but for some this is a draw).

True, all alcohol and I am a drinker - but this is hardly a reason to move to a country?! Besides, its shit beer.

- Good value academic education in English. Want to finish your university studies?

HAH what a laugh.

- Much easier language to learn than tonal Thai

That is also untrue. Phils is mixed with many dialects and subdialects, the grammar is insanely stupid.

- It is possible to make local male friends?

In Thailand but as many punters here have acknowledged, in Phils in downright dangerous and I totally agree.

- some religious variety - Catholics, Protestants, Muslims

Thailand is 4% Muslim and has Catholics. Less Christians better as far as I am concerned.

- P4P is better value (short time' means 2 hours, and the service girls are more accomodating)

- they can read and do

No its not at all. Its more expensive, more HASSLES and full of scams.

- filipinas/os have artistic talents

Becasue Thai's don't?! <deleted>!!

- Filipinas/os are more broad-minded, even uneducated people can see the perspectives of people of other beliefs. Thais are too close-minded and provincial.

Yes, they are open for you to come in and marry their _____ and spend your money. SOme of the most backward, conservative people I have encountered.

- Filipinas/os are less superstitious, more practical

Another epic fail.

- you can have a conversation with a Filipina/o, and not just because of language - you are not from Mars.

So learn Thai if it bothers you - or go there!

- there is less homosexuality and *much* less transvestitism

Its just hidden, Philippines is VERY VERY GAY. A Peace Corp worker some years ago even remarked to me his wife forbid the children from watching all sorts of TV shows becasue so gays were to present. So there you go.

CLUELESS

Having been to the phils 6 times and with the city from which I hail from being infested with 120 000+ filipinos, I totally agree. Filipinos speak english, are familiar with western culture, yet close to 40% of them in the west fail to graduate from high school. Getting through hs is not all that difficult. Filipinos are well educated? The phlippines has a good educational system? LMFAO! We still need engish speakers working at McDs

I've recently moved from thailand to the Phils but for one main reason

the phils still hgas some good snorkelling and diving due to the fact it has fewer tourists

and what tourism there is is based around diving as opposed to thailands tourism model which is based around maximum commercialistaion with no regard for the environment.

If thailand looked after its beache and marine environment better and turned it back to the tropical paradise it once was then i would remain in thailand. This is all the Phils has thats better

so unless you are crazxy about swimming or diving on coral seas then give it a miss.

Main drawback is security

crime is a way of life in the big cities and the fact that even guards outside of 7/11's have pump action shotguns doesn't put you at ease. there must be a need for this. Terrorism is much more of an issue as well and kidnappings have frequently taken place

other issues are

firstly

Girls seem more crazy, true they speak english better but they seem even more of a head case than farang girls if thats possible. Plue due to their diet they are generally fatter than thais and have darker skin. I think Thai women are better looking

secondly

The food is just sh*te. Local diet seems to consist of fried fat and sloppy rice

no veg or good cuts of meat

whereas eating at a roadside eatery in thailand is a culinary delight eating at one in The Phils

is just plain torture.

thirdly

culture

are we in Asia or South America or even America?

due to spanish and american colonisation the culture really is messed up

instead of noodle soup sold at street corners we have hamburgers

instead of temples we have delapidated churches

fourthly

infrastructure

improving slightly but still abysmal

dirt roads in many places meaning dust is everywhere and power cuts are a way of life

fifthly

conveniences and ability to buy goods

shopping is way better in thailand which is starnge as the Phils has more malls than anywhere i've ever been but they hardly ever stock evrything i need or

want

two examples

Shower gel is virtually unheard of

I also have a problem with my eyes whereby I need to wash them out with an eye bath

every day. lost mine nad wanted to buy another. The Filipinos have never heard of such a thing.

again very odd

all this makes me wonder why i moved but the answer is as i said in the diving and swimming

all in all the quality of life In thailand is far better

Iam sure the countless filipinos inLOS agree with I . I sure do! I once heard the philippines being refered to as 'the sick man of asia". If anyone has been there, you can see why,

i once saw a report that rich chinese liked virgins so much in cambodia, was good for business, or so they said...

Frreakin true! /i have noticed that all vices (drugs, prostitution, gambling etcc, etc) almost always have a chinese connection. It adds to y belief, from years of dealing with them,that they will do virtually anything to make an extra penny! Its the samewith the chinese regardless of where they live. SHAMELESS!

I had inadvertently eatensome some rat meaton a stick! A vendor was sellin bbq meat on a stickfor 1bt! Bought 5. While chewing I found fully formed pieces of bone, except they were toothpick sized! Ewwww, but it tasted ok! I guess the secret is in the sauce!

Have noticed that within the last couple of years that the price of noodle soup seems to have gone up from 30->35bt. Thats more than a 12% increase! But then worold food prices have shot up.

bbq pork om a stick is still 5bt, but as was pointed out the size has gotten smaller!

Knew a guy in BKK who would carry a thick ass copy of Mein Kampf around BKK. A pretty bitter former Austalian postie in his mid 30s. He had a fixation on keeping his place super.duper tidy! Everything had to be in its proper place. Weird man! He alsoshowed hints of latent homosexuality....

40 yo? Awweeesommeee!!

I used to be a carbonated soda addict.  Would down bottles of that stuff everyday.  The first thing I did when I would wake up was crack one open.  At breaks during work I would grab a bottle. I had a massive collection of empty soday bottles.  This all ended via some intervention.  A help group is ESSENTIAL if your REALLY KEEN on getting off this stuff.  The good new is that THERE IS HELP, but ONLY IF UR READY!

Good luck!

Been to Vientienemany times. Never had any problems. There were bombings at the Morning Market many years ago, but that kind of stuff seems to have tappered off.

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Where the heck do get your info from? A quick online search reveals that life expectancy for males in Thailand is 71/72. Comparing this to for example, The Netherlands with 76, not that big of difference. And as life expectancy in the "developed" world is likely to go down for future generations, this difference is set to get even smaller.

Ooops, the stats I posted were from several years ago. The life expectancy is in the low to mid 70s. Not as gud as 82, but yea I sure hope it gets better.

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As for Proton, i appreciate it is cheap, but i truly didn't believe cars of that sort of quality were made any more -outside of perhaps Russia and China. It really was a shock to me. I drove the Saga, which is the booted version of the Savvy.

I ran away as fast as my legs would carry me - about the same speed as the Saga.

I understand the SAGA to essentially be an early 1990s Mitsubishi Cold/Mirage. The Savvy is smaller and not sure what it is based one. From what ive read...

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wft is DaPhils?

The Philippines! Beer is very cheap there! San Miguiel! The islands are nice, but so are many of the islands in SEA. Other than that ur not missing out on much by bypassing that archipelago.

I don't understand except for the crass arrogance of those who constantly condemn the visa runners. While many of these guys sit in Pattaya at Dolphin roundabout, contribute nothing save for serving as a collective eyesore. Many other visa runners are involved in all sorts of things that contribute to Thailands financial bottom line. Many people PREFER a life of mobility and freedom. You would think Thailand would embrace it. Some of the cheapest people I have ever me in my life are pensioners married and stuck/staying here in Thailand. Now don't get me wrong, I love cheap charlies - I am just saying...

Being a visa runner makes you no less a human being than some clod that has put 800k into a shonky Thai bank and Thailand has given him permission to stay yet another year. BFD. As we well know that ability to stay is constanly yanked away from good, decent people in places like Samui and Phuket for not coming up with the adequate "compensation".

Thailand's day in the sun is long gone and if Thailand has not realized it, they better. This is not only for expat retirement, but for tourism in general. Western tourism is toast. Thailand will now fill up with Chinese, Russian and E Europeans as well as Arabs and none of this lot has any money. So, to think TAT is targeting the wealthy is simply not borne out by facts.

Thailand can retain a sizeable expat population, but it will need to work at it. It shows a total unwillingness to do so. Now, Westeners are having problems at their home embassies and consulates as well.

Thailand a long time ago made a decision not to educate its populace and become a tourist paradise served by low wage/educated work force. Neo feudalism if you will. It has followed this course for decades while Malaysia, Hong Kong, Taiwan and Singapore have all progressed nearly to 1st world standard. Tourism is said to be somewhere 6-8% of the formal (!) economy.

For some bizarre reason Thailand only recognizes or is interested in tourism that provides state revenue. If it helps the good folk - it might be good, but it is not important. Its about Hotels, Airports, etc...

Failed US Presidential candidate many years ago Ross Perot once said: We need to make computer chips, not potato chips. This is Thailands thinking. Thailand needs to make both, especially when it is the potato chip crowd that is attracted to Thailand.

To get this back on track - yes, a lot of creepy people come to Thailand to do creepy things that they were most likely doing in their home countries anyway. You can stop this lot from working (through checks) and entering (if proir records) but in the end - if it is available and if the system can be gamed or bought off, it will remain a haven.

The reason no one is going to Malaysia, Singapore, HongKong, Taiwan or even teh Philippines and doing a bunch of drugs is that they will KILL you. For most of these countries any child-crimes problems, well you might wish you were dead. But its just not that - remember the arms dealer that Thailand refused to extradite? So, it is a haven becasue corrupt elements allow it to be really.

gud points, but I don t view Taiwan and HK attracting any sizable retirees.  If anything ppl in HK are wanting to leave.  It s said that it's a gud place to make $$,but not a place to retire.  Taiwan?  SG does not seem to have the "edge" that makes Thailand exciting, at least for some. Da Phils is just scary!  U can get used to it, but I'd have to always belookin over my shoulders if I lived in Manila.  Beside, I don't find DaPhils to be very good value for ur $.  In this regard, Thailand has got to be a pretty gud place to settle down! IMHO'Drugs are very easy tto find in Malaysia. don t be put off by that "DEATH TO DRUG TRAFFICKERS" message stamped on ur customs card! Just ask aany Indonesian worker or well connected chinese guy! just sayin...

Stupid question, but I assume a foreigner married to a Thai would not be allowed to part take in the system. I guess you could use the $1 a visit system if u took up Thai nationality!

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The March still has the edge over the Brio - why not test-drive them both and make your own decision? You could choose the sedan-version of the March, the Almera, depending on your requirements. I believe that this year the Mitsubishi Colt will be released - that could be worth waiting  for before making a purchase.

Other alternatives are the Proton Savvy, and Cherry QQ - neither of which I would recommend. Chevrolet will release the Spark this year or next, I'm not sure. I wouldn't wait for that.

Proton Savvy would make a much better alternative to the Chery QQ! Chery QQ? A TOTAL RIP OFF of a GM product! Chery cant well that modelin Eurpoe for fear that GM would sue their sorry ass! Aside from that, would you actual TRUST a CHINESE BRANDED product? Isnt ur life more important tthan saving a FEW hundread dollars?www.chinacracpwatch.comTotally shameless!