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If you check a timeline from 2011 it could be worse this time round. The rain seems much heavier and much more consistent. At this time in 2011 only 25 provinces were flooded, upto 27 this year already.
Very good point.
If my memory serves me right. BKK did not flood till Novenber in 2011.
We are 2 months prior to that time of year.... BKK got all the water from the north after all that flooded, but the rains ended there back in early October. and we are on the verge of the same scenario, with 2 big storms bearing down and potentially weeks of rain yet to come.
This could be a lot worse.
These are the words that the government should be coming out with.
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anybody have any links to flood maps/maps showing movement of the water?
I don't have maps or a link, but I did just take a drive up to Nakhon Nayok and Khun Dan Dam this morning. The Dam is almost it's maximum capacity of 224 Million Cubic Metres of water.
A lot of the farm land in the immediate area and almost down to the 305 Highway, has been flooded intentionally by the look of it.
When driving home, I saw many emergency vehicles heading North East with boats loaded etc.
Khlong Rangsit is quite high in places, but totally clogged with water hyacinth.
I'll attach a couple of photos if my skills allow!
The first two photos were taken 27th July and the water was so low I thought could rain until November without problem.
The dam is 93 metres tall.
I hope this helps a little.
It amazes me that the Officials keep informing us of the level of the Bhumibol & Sirikit Dams when the problem Dams causing concern are much closer to BKK.DSCN0352.JPGDSCN0355.JPGDSCN0378.JPGDSCN0379.JPGDSCN0381.JPG
Thanks for posting the images. That last photo looks like it could be a different view of the one I commented earlier. That one looks very much like a spillway that is gushing. The spillway is always set below the maximum height of the dam for obvious reasons.
Could be wrong, but it looks a lot like a spillway which is usually at the side of the dam.
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The wife showed me a picture of a dam bursting north of BKK. She said it hasn't been put on the news yet, but someone put a picture they took with a mobile and posted on a Thai forum..
She isn't here at the moment, but when she returns from town, I will get her to send me the link and better info.
As with the 2011 flood, please understand the difference between a dyke and a dam, before posting these stories.
I know the difference between a dam and a dyke... thanks.
It was a dam, and was a photo of the spillway that had the added boards slotted into it to increase the capacity and delay the spillways coming into effect.
The top 2 boards had ruptured and the water was gushing through.
Please don't assume that someone is stupid and naive before posting YOUR comments.
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The Indian satellite footprints don't make it this far south without a BIG dish
http://www.vipboxsports.me/ stream the Indian cricket channels plus loads more sports
I don't mind a big dish actually, even a big motorized one, even better because i can point it to lots of sats. Not sure about the technology though. would I need loads of boxes, or is there a universal box available that can decode many channels?
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I am trying to find if it is possible to get Indian satellite broadcasting here in Thailand.
I want it for star sports and star cricket, and the discovery channels and star movies etc.
I am done with True Visions. They are not a very professional company and have had lots of problems with their internet and TV products and won't have any more dealings with them. Above all, their customer services lie all the time., I can't abide that.
I have signed up with scinet for internet and it's bril, I want to get back on satellite TV, and I want the above channels. I know there are a few Indian sat providers. But would be difficult to sign up from Thailand
I was hoping the satellite footprint might fall on Thailand, but seems not to. But I am seeing a few websites saying it can be got. But seems too technical for me with satellite names and co-ordinates etc... I don't need that info, just the easy info on what box, where to get it and prices.
Thanks in advance for your help
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I thought it was illegal in most western countries to import from companys who used child labour?
The best way to address this is find out all the big western companys who are buying this seafood, and expose them. That usually sorts out the problem with mass cancellation of future orders unless these parasites improve working conditions, pay a fair wage so that children can be looked after instead of pushed out to work at an age when they should be developing.
Any decent investigative reporters out there looking for a scoop? Here it is.
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How can YL climb to a higher level??
Private jet
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Most of Bangkok will be flood-free despite 2 approaching storms,National Disaster Warning Center assured /The Nation
Pathetic in the eye of the storm...
Why can't they be open and honest and issue warnings to all the areas that ARE going to flood. Maybe then they can prevent deaths of little girls. Rather than constantly try to bullshit people that everything is cool.
Floods kill people and animals.... wake up and start moving people out instead of living in denial.
What a stupidly pathetic excuse for a government.
They should be tied to lamp posts in the areas they say won't flood.
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The wife showed me a picture of a dam bursting north of BKK. She said it hasn't been put on the news yet, but someone put a picture they took with a mobile and posted on a Thai forum..
She isn't here at the moment, but when she returns from town, I will get her to send me the link and better info.
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Here is the proof that the Thai government only ever seems to open its mouth to tell lies to the people.
I can not think of how resilient they are to losing face and bringing tremendous amounts of shame onto themselves.
They never seem to have any problems with losing face.
Almost every comment on the flood potential have been pure 100% bullshit and they knew it all along, the thing is... so did everyone.
Do the people realize how dangerous this government is to Thailand??
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The man talks sense . . . well, mostly . . . well, slightly more than the current Govt.
Where the PT spending plan will be divided between
rice
palm oil
onions
garlic
carrots
pineapples
and Louis Vutton.
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Floods 'under control'
He means..... "It has stopped raining....... for now"
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I am not sure if I qualify as a medium, but I am constantly being visited by the devil in my dreams asking me to perform evil acts, and in return will reward me by playing loud rock music in my head.
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Very trollish
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Ironically the Thais in my office love nothing more than loudly pointing out that I have made a mistake
^^^ And this is what I have come to believe Thai face is. Putting others down or showing yourself to be better than others. It is different from the Easy Asian face which is all about family honour.
Here everything is a game of oneupsmanship in the disguise of "face" to make it sound more honourable.
Total rubbish.
Back in the West, see what big companies, doctors, dentists and hospitals do in order to cover up or gloss over a situation when they make errors.
Ever tried suing or lying blame for imcompetence or malpractice on a member of the medical profession in the UK or the United States?
Trying not to lose face is about trying not to lose credibility, nothing to do with oneupsmanship. In the West this maybe described as losing prestige or one`s pride, which amounts to the same thing.
No one likes to lose credibility, whatever nationality, wherever in the world.
I agree.
This losing face BS gets in the way of the positive development of Thais and Thailand.
They use it as a universal 'get out clause' for everything from justifying a lie to justifying a savage murder.
No matter where you are from, you don't like to be embarrassed by others for whatever reason and in whatever scenario.... Nobody likes to be made to look foolish. But that doesn't mean we are allowed to lie because of it, and have that accepted.
The fact you are caught out and made to look a bit of a burk because you messed up, then you should accept it. if you then try to fudge it over to look good again, you deserve to be exposed as a bigger burk in my opinion.
People should be made to stand up and be accountable when they mess up, how else can they develop?
My own story.
I was in Swampy airport last week, and when we checked in, (Thai Airways). The lady told us we had to go and collect the tickets from the TA ticket office first. I commented that this was unusual as it was an internet booking and therefor ticketless. But non-the less the wife went over while i watched the luggage.
We were a little later than we usually are with an hour left before the flight, but seeing as it was 9/11 I figured the airport would be pretty empty (which it was).
My wife returned after 15 minutes saying that they had not received the booking. But the money had gone out of my bank a week earlier and I had the email confirmation with all the booking details including booking number.
So anyway, I made my way over to the TA office and by this time was starting to lose patience...
The clerk at the ticket counter said they had not received any booking, and that we should take it up with our booking agent.. Hang on a moment.... 'OUR' booking agent??? No.... 'YOUR' booking agent. I exclaimed.
The office had say... 15 or so people in it. So I decided that if this face saving crap tends to work against us most of the time, I am damn well going to make it work in my favour this time. So I steadily started to get louder and more obnoxious and call the professionalism of the TA organization into question.
I hit her with questions like... "Within the great organization of Thai Airways, are you trying to tell me that there is no department which deals with outsourced booking agents?" The answer was no... A complete lie. So a little louder i said that was a lie and that I know for a fact they have a department that deals with that.
A little louder now (everyone can hear). You have my money, the flight is confirmed... if there was a breakdown between YOUR system and the system of YOUR booking agent, that is not MY responsibility.... IT's YOURS! Thai Airways chooses to use booking agents, it is their responsibility to make sure the system works.
Everyone in the office is looking now, they all have a handle on what is going on, and every time the girl tries to fob me off, I get more animated. Every bit of bullshit is countered with pure unarguable logic and thrown back at her. Including that the flight was full... another lie because check in was empty and so was the airport. The seats were incredibly cheap, another sign of an empty flight.
Anyway, I think not only the clerk lost a huge amount of face, but also the entire office and airline for that matter.
The manager came over, whispered something in Thai to the girl and then it was all change.. all of a sudden the flight is empty, and they will book us on and inform the agent to refund us, but we have to pay again there and then. It was the best compromise in the situation, and we also got an upgrade to business class on the outward flight.
When we boarded the flight, the plane was 40% full as I had suspected.
So there you go. You can use face to get what you need. But it wasn't easy and you have to dig your heels in.
My wife was so embarrassed by my behavior, but admitted that she was glad I did it. Because she could never have done that.
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Do you use 6-8 tablespoons of MSG in your cooking or RotDee (a msg flavor enhancer) found in all foods here? I have found the only thing that gets to me is the msg. Otherwise I suggest your issues are in your mind. You believe you should be getting sick as kitchens and cooking standards are not what you need.
Let's not turn this into an MSG thread - I'm neutral on MSG, but you have to be joking if you think food safety standards here are safe. Even the stench of "off" meat products can be smelled at the big supermarkets that can't be named.
As for the open air markets. A western food hygienist would have kittens if they were asked to monitor the standards.
As a matter of fact some friends and I discussed this very issue recently after one poor sod was confined to his condo for 5 days with "chronic everything syndrome". He emerged a pale comparison of his former self. He put it down to some dodgy BBQ chicken bought from the market. We hypothesized the potential lifecycle of said chicken:
Day 1: Killed (un-hygienically) and maybe transported to market to be displayed in the open air with no refrigeration or insect control other than the plastic bag on a stick waved by a 6 year old. Or it might sit around the chicken farmers yard for a day before being transported to market. Regardless, it's sitting in a tray of floating salmonella juices that smell putrid even to the hardiest soul. And all the Thais pick through it with bare (unwashed and been to the bog three times already) hands, wiping said hands on a rag that has never been washed and is stiff with bacteria.
Day 2: Wasn't sold on day one, but maybe (or maybe not) stored in an box of ice, along with pork, prawns, livers, fish, and lord knows what else. To be displayed yet again in the open air as on day one.
Day 3: Wasn't sold on Day two, but still good to go. Wipe off any blow-fly larvae.
Day 4: Wasn't sold on day three and vendor thinks maybe it might be getting a bit dodgy after 3 or maybe 4 whole days sitting unrefrigerated (never mind the 2-3 days of open air 32 degree plus 2-3 nights at say 4 degrees in the icebox), so decides to either sell to a fried/BBQ chicken vendor on the cheap, or fry it himself for re-sale. Maybe it will be sold, maybe not. If not sold, no need to store in an icebox over night because now it's cooked.
Day 4: Fancy some chicken on a stick and some khaow-niau anybody?
Whatever the lifecycle. They would never throw it away. That is part of the problem. Even been to quite an expensive restaurant where you expect it to be different and took one bite out of a burger, and I almost hurled. They must know when something is bad. Do they care? Not in their nature. Making a sale and losing that cistomer for life is much better than throwing out 1KG of rancid burger meat.
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Do you use 6-8 tablespoons of MSG in your cooking or RotDee (a msg flavor enhancer) found in all foods here? I have found the only thing that gets to me is the msg. Otherwise I suggest your issues are in your mind. You believe you should be getting sick as kitchens and cooking standards are not what you need.
No I never use MSG. But I do eat things at home that contain MSG and I was brought up eating Chinese takeaways in the UK and that was loaded with MSG, and it never bothered me. Maybe I have developed an intolerance over the recent years. The MSG thing is plausible but improbable. The theory of it being all in the mind is probably the biggest load of crap I have heard in a week on this forum.
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My experience has been with over 14 years living inThailand neither, I nor anyone in my family has had food poisining more than 3 or 4 times.
Given the number meals eaten in a wide range of restaurants, at least one meal eaten out of home per day, I have to conclude hygene is not a concern.
Eat out that often back home I'd expect no better occursnce of sickness.
The one concern I have with food in Thailand is the presence of agro chemicals and agro antibiotics. A real concern that people oight to get better informed on.
Maybe I am intolerant to a common factor in Thai cooking.
But we use almost all the same things in our kitchen, and I am fine, my wife seems to be the same as me.
In Nepal, there was no such problem. I can only put it down to bad practices. I have had rotten meat served to me on more than one occasion. I could smell it each time before i even took a bite. My wife had a pork chop that smelled so purified that i could smell it from the other side of the table. I was seriously pissed off, because they must have known it was totally off, the smell would have been a lot worse before cooking. But rather than throw it out or give it to the dog, they chose to serve it to their customer. That is by far the worst experience I ever was exposed to in any restaurant in any country I have every traveled (23 so far).
The whole thing seems to be a problem with attitude. It's a pity because I really like Thai food.
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I've walked into restaurants where the cook turned out to be the person who was:
clipping and scraping toenails;
popping zits in the motor scooter mirror;
de-licing hair friend;
scraping boogers;
picking ticks from her dog and .... well .... I didn't eat the soup.
But there are plenty of clean places. Just have to hunt them down. I do tend to avoid raw foods though, unless I know the place.
Funny you should say that. My wife pointed out a few weeks ago that she saw the owner clipping his toenails, and then got up and started preparing food. Luckily for me, I was not eating there. The wife was.
I have watched a cook chopping chicken and pork on the same chopping board, then just wiped it over with a dirty rag and proceed to slice a tomato on it for a salad.
They seem to have no idea just how dangerous that is. It will get you closed down in a heartbeat in the west, and would possibly make the local press, just to make sure your business is ruined.
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There's a Thai food safety act?
Yes, but it is more of an advisory board rather than an action board.
They ought to bring in laws and enforce them like they have in western countries, seeing as these businesses are serving food to millions of western people.
They have a course that food operators can attend and they get a certificate if they pass, and can display it in their restaurant/eatery. But I have never seen a single one. They should make it mandatory that any business selling food to the public has a certificate on display or they can not trade. They should send round inspectors to see that standards are being maintained, and they should revoke a certificate if there are failings.
It's not a major inconvenience to put this system in place.
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Been here for almost 4 years now, and I have come to the conclusion that Thai restaurants, street food vendors and my digestive system are no match made in heaven.
All I can put it down to is the lack of consideration of hygiene plus very insufficient training in food safety standards.
I almost always end up with the squits after eating food prepared by a Thai. I don't know exactly what it is. Maybe the rat, fly and cockroach infested kitchens. Or the terrible sanitation. Lets face it how many times have you been in a small cheap restaurant (and sometimes not cheap) and went to the toilet to find no soap or anything to dry the hands, maybe a manky old towel that has not been washed for weeks. Knowing that the people preparing your food are using the same toilets as the customer? I have seen this heaps of times, and I totally lose my appetite.
I do love Thai food and invested in a luxury 'indoor' kitchen at home, which we keep pristine clean at all times, and my wife and I will cook many Thai meals, and I never get sick once. But once I venture out to a Thai eatery, the next day I am hanging on to the toilet for dear life. My wife also suffers the same.
I just arrived back from Nepal a few days ago, and the contrast is astounding. We only ate local food for every meal for a whole week and I have to say that no matter where we ate, or at what budget level, the toilets provided in eateries was that of a high class hotel, and even outside the big cities. They seem to have a big focus on food standards and safety compared to their Thai counterparts. We never had an adverse effect at any time during our stay, and Nepal is a much poorer country than LOS.
The very day I returned to LOS, the first meal we ate, me and the wife were back fighting over the toilet.
I do know that very few Thais observe the food safety act, my wife says that they see it as building up a resistance to food germs. But my view is that, if everyone practiced good hygiene standards, then they wouldn't need to build up a resistance to e coli or salmonella. Prevention is better than cure.
Anyway, I am done with them now... I only will eat in farang run restaurants, because I never seem to get ill in those, I suppose they pass on their food hygiene knowledge, the toilets are usually stocked with soap at least The Thais can continue to do their thing, and I will do mine.
Rant over..... now hit me with your best.
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They don't mind burning Christian churches in Syria ,and kill Christians to boot , destroy Hindu temples in India ,blow up Buddha's in Afganistan and on and on ,so what's a few petrol soaked corans?
It's ok to put statues of the Christ in piss bottles ,or literally eat the heart of their enemies .
I think we need to desensitize all those soooo touchy people ohhh so sensitive
We(Infidels) are being provoked on a daily basis IE : The million muslim march on Dc
It's ok if we take abuse but not ok to dish it back ..come on people!
When and where will political correctness end
which world do you live ? burning Christian churches? who is supplying the matches ? destroying Hindu temples ? wake up , its a Hindu majority. Muslims are being slaughtered in India, Sri Lanka, Burma , Naple, and al around the world , stop talking rubbish
It's you that is talking rubbish my friend.
This is happening every day in the muslim dominant countries.
There are constantly islamic radicals parading through the streets of the UK holding placards screaming out 'death to all infidels' and 'UK police burn in hell' or do you prefer 'behead those who insult islam'..... This is going on all the time in overly PC Britain. One of the reasons I left.
The USA is only one step away from their islamic community doing the same and this confidence to do so is fed by the PC protectionist societies that they seek to attempt to force conversion to islam.
In 10 years, these scenes will be on the streets of Washington DC and in New York City.... you mark my words.
Coming to a street near you ..... soon.
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I have read TV long enough to know that the soldiers did absolutely nothing wrong. All the courts need to do is read the threads over the last few years and it will become completely clear to them that all actions was justified. The army did not shoot anyone...............but if they did it was because they were attacked first...................... and if they were not attacked first then it was because there was a threat........................ but if there was no threat then it was because the Reds were causing an inconvenience to the
rulingaverage citizens.If you have been reading TV that long you would know that most of the TV members would think you were a fruitcake.
Lucky you were not in charge of the government back in 2010, if so there would be nothing left of the city and the redshirts would still be there "inconveniencing the citizens".
Personally, I would wear that as a badge of honor!
I think I would have used water cannons, tear gas, and other, more traditional, methods of crowd control.
These were not normal crowds... these were illegal militia 'potentially' armed with stolen police weapons and 'definitely' armed with molotov cocktails.
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If you are throwing molotov cocktails at an army unit in any country or scenario, you are likely going to be shot. You are offering yourself into the 'rules of engagement'. So to be shot dead, you have no complaint. So really no need for the soldier to lie about live or dummy ammunition. Just tell the truth. He was throwing petrol bombs at us, so we shot his ass.
Perfectly acceptable.
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Bangkok braces for floods as Chao Phraya River rises
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Chiang mai rain doesn't go to BKK.
All the water from the already flooded provinces goes to BKK.