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6 minutes ago, bannork said:

Tories lost safe seats because traditional Conservative supporters couldn't

See through the media frenzy. Plus by-election blues, there’s often a slap on the wrist at mid term. 

1 hour ago, baboon said:

Don't you want the media to call out corrupt, lying politicians or should they all simply be given a free pass to do what they want?

Blair and Starmer got a free pass. Boris didn’t actually do anything worth the press hysteria. 

22 hours ago, RayC said:

And how do you propose to tackle these undemocratic elements? Abolish the free press? Set up a UK version of the McCarthy hearings?

You could start by abolishing the biased press, starting with the BBC. 
They are supposed to report news, not manipulate it to meet their own agenda. 

2 minutes ago, hotandsticky said:

 

 

The scars still run deep.

 

 

Long may you suffer with your bitterness.

They’ll still be bitter lefty Remainers long after the next Tory government is returned again.

30 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Another Johnson supporter in possession of a time machine.

Just been to check next year. Boris is still dud to popular demand and Brexit is great!

20 minutes ago, baboon said:

"The history is already written."

 

And I will not allow you to make up your own version and pass it off as fact.

 

"The left and MSM left their trail for all to see."

 

A meaningless parting shot to imply there is more to the story than meets the eye. There isn't. The whole saga was all down to Johnson.

 

Any historian will look at the old MSM webpages plus the nonsense posted on twitter and the like, then think “How did the unelected press manage to get all that hyperbole to overthrow a massively popular Prime Minister”?

20 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Your misinformed posts on this forum do not constitute ‘The History’.

Not mine, but the MSM of the past two years. 

27 minutes ago, baboon said:

You aren't going to get away with re-writing history.

The history is already written. The left and MSM left their trail for all to see.

2 hours ago, baboon said:

Well he would need to be tried and found guilty of war crimes first, but yeah: Iraq was a terrible business we should have had no involvement in.

No, he should be taken there pending that trial. 

52 minutes ago, baboon said:

No they weren't and no it didn't. There was no witch hunt. He was ousted by his own party due to his lies, corruption and incompetence. 

Oh yes they were and there was an orchestrated witch hunt for months. 
His own party only joined to protect, or jockey for, their positions at the very last minute. 
It’s may be very unpalatable for the left and MSM to be seen  as part of an undemocratic coup, but we saw what you did. 

39 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

What took so long?

The MSM witch hunt. Nobody was worried until it reached fever pitch. 

34 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It’s not the truth, your accusations are baseless and patent nonsense.

 

Johnson was brought down by a vote by his own party’s MPs.

 

That vote and the outcome of that vote are a recorded fact.

 

You need to come to terms with these facts.

 

 

It’s all there in the newspapers and tv records. The facts are there. You may have missed it, or are pretending it never happened. 
 

Do you expect us to believe that one day some Tory MPs suddenly decided that they would like to oust Boris?

12 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

You need to get over this.

 

Sorry if you find the truth distasteful but it needs to be said. Taking all your information from the Garuniad and other lefty posters is not good for you. You are already believing their hype and misinformation. 

19 minutes ago, sawadee1947 said:

No, wrong. How is it fair that not even 200.000 old, most upper class men decide who will be PM?? And also wrong that the population doesn't choose the leader. People choose the party, that's right. But they know who's the leader of the party. And this leader will becomes PM.

Again, the population shall vote, not only not even 1%.

No. We’re OK with the current arrangement. Maybe where you come from but not the UK. 
We even had a referendum about proportional representation and voted against it. 

13 minutes ago, baboon said:

The BBC has everyone shouting at them. Too Left! Too Right!

Sky News is Murdoch.

ITV I don't know.

GBeebies - Right wing.

And their rival set up by Murdoch, right wing.

 

You are on a hiding to nothing at this point. Johnson is a corrupt liar who was ousted by his party and resignes in disgrace.

Ousted by the combined left and MSM, then stabbed in the back by his own. This is not democracy for the nation or voters.  

8 minutes ago, baboon said:

No it isn't. You just made that up. Johnson screwed himself due to his arrogance and corruption to the point when he was compelled to resign in disgrace. Ousted by his own party.

Nothing made up about a couple of years of anti-Boris sentiment, plus the last few months of anti-Boris MSM hysteria witch hunt.  
If you have been camping out in Nakhon Nowhere you could have missed it I suppose. 

10 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

You’ve been trying to convince us of this nonsense for months, but that doesn’t make it true.

 

 

If you are too blind to see that, it’s your problem. 

3 minutes ago, baboon said:

This is untrue. The 'MSM' in the UK overwhelmingly supports the Tories. The Daily Mail (the rag that supported Hitler), The Sun, The Star, The Times, The Telegraph, The Express versus what: The Mirror and The Guardian. 

Any anti-Johnson hype is a result of their editors and Non Dom owners backing another horse, now they consider Johnson a liability. 

All completely true.
MSM support Boris - what alternative universe are you calling from??

You forgot the left biased BBC, ITV, Sly News, Channel 4 and the rest. The general public get those beamed into their living rooms without going out to buy the Garuniad or Mirror. 
The press has hated Boris for a long time and in the past couple of months have made that brazenly obvious. They never backed a horse called Boris. 

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

It’s always somebody else’s fault.

It’s been very clear over the past few months and more, that it’s definitely the left & MSM fault.