Loiner

12 hours ago, baboon said:

Exactly. You are a liar and guilty of libel.

2 hours ago, baboon said:

Not interested. Go and pick a fight with somebody else. 

2 hours ago, transam said:

Pot/kettle..........................????

Got my summons ready yet?

6 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

‘Probably’.

Yes, at a rough guess. If you don’t agree with my estimate why don’t you check the actual numbers. 
You won’t find them in The Garuniad. 

14 minutes ago, baboon said:

No, I won't. I will keep calling you out on your lies and libel.

 

I am OK. I just will not put up with your lies and deceit. 

 

Lies and libel? Lies and deceit?

You had better get out the old law books, or at least start with a couple of dictionary definitions. 

16 minutes ago, baboon said:

Give me one example of my continued assertions that all of the world’s ills are caused by Brexit.

Otherwise you are simply a liar and guilty of libel. 

Libel? So sue me. 

1 minute ago, placeholder said:

You sure about that? How does that explain what happened in 2019?

Summer holiday getaway brings Dover port traffic delays

27 July 2019

 

Cross-Channel ferry passengers are reporting delays of several hours on roads in Dover.

The Port of Dover urged people to allow extra time for journeys but has tweeted the port is fully operational.

People in Dover have reported "gridlock" and have claimed to be delayed for more than four hours.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-kent-49138975

 

Given that one lane of the highway has been turned into a parking lot for lorries waiting to cross the Channel, because the UK didn't prepare  adequate parking facilities for them, how could there not be delays?

You should not take a report from auntie beeb to be the truth, but inevitably biased. If PoD says it is fully operational the problem probably emanates from the French side. What was their excuse three years ago - border guards forgot to come to work again?

19 minutes ago, baboon said:

I don't get it: you don't care but will not withdraw from the discussion. Why, given that the UK you inhabit isn't bothered either. So why worry?

Did a Frenchman run off with your wife or something? And if he did, can he take Mrs baboon off my hands too? 

To correct your continued assertions that all of the world’s ills are caused by Brexit. In this case it was a clear case of French incompetence/intransigence on a very busy school holiday weekend. 
Whether I care about the few probable Remainers suffering due to the French is neither here nor there. 
 

Why not leave the missus in the next queue the French make.  One of them might take her off your hands. 
 

26 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Spain also isn't connected to the UK by ferries which constrict the flow of tourists.

It’s not the ferries which constrict the flow. It’s not Brexit with causes the delays. In both cases it’s the French border control. 

30 minutes ago, candide said:

Again, definitive assertion without much backing

 

"Spain has a method to solve its problems". I hope so, considering that other checks: Covid document, money, proof of accommodation, still must be checked manually. + many UK flights cancelled (that was one of the reasons evoked to explain why more people used their car instead)

 

"France has not". Obviously, it has after last Saturday, so how do you know it hasn't? Let's wait to see how a few week-ends are going.

Spain hasn’t had long queues for months. They have solved their problem. 
You have already intimidated that France can’t decide how to squeeze cars through the autogates, or remind the border guards to come to work and keep the IT going. 

30 minutes ago, RayC said:

It seems that you might be happier if your (presumably Northern?) city/ town/ hamlet was divorced from the South.

 

I'm happy to contribute if you decide to start an independence movement.

Great idea. We’ll need a lot though, can you afford it with the current exchange rates?
I’ll PM my bank details.  

10 minutes ago, candide said:

As usual, you don't show anything to back your assertion. 

Anyway, if Majorca eventually solved its problems after two months of nightmare for UK travellers, I am glad about it.

 

1. What about Dover now? Any report of long queues? It seems the French have solved thei problems after 2 days.compared to 2 months for Spain.

2. Do you know how Spanish airports claimed they would solve the queue problem? By using e-gates. Now as you consider that passing through sea port checks by car is comparable to airport checks, please explain how to pass cars through e-gates?

What’s going to happen next with them next? I’m sure there will some new issue from Calais border control to disrupt British travel.
 

Spain has a method to solve its problem. France has not. It’s is up to the French authorities to resolve their problems with a suitable method to prevent queues, not me or Spain. Put enough monkeys on typewriters……… Oh sorry, that brings us back to the French problem again - monkeys forgot to come to work and the typewriter broke. 

19 minutes ago, candide said:

I was replying to a post wrongly claiming that there was no problem in Spain and that the organisation was infinitely better. 

Nothing wrong with that claim. Look at the disruption caused by French border control last weekend. The Spanish had it sorted infinitely better. 

7 minutes ago, baboon said:

Have you ever considered trying to get along with people?

Their arrogance and intransigence makes that too difficult. 

2 minutes ago, candide said:

Wrong 

Up to 3 hours, during months in several airports, compared to 6 hours during one morning!

https://www.mirror.co.uk/travel/europe/brits-facing-three-hour-nightmare-27108625

Couple of months ago. Old news. Tell me again about last weekend in Spain, while the French were dicking about in Calais. 

1 hour ago, candide said:

Really? ????

https://www.majorcadailybulletin.com/holiday/airport/2022/05/25/101651/mallorca-long-airport-queues-getting-bad-press.html

https://www.euronews.com/travel/2022/05/20/palma-delays-majorca-airport-on-verge-of-collapse-after-weeks-of-long-queues

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/travel/spain-warning-tourists-those-flying-24149371

 

And it's about airports in which the flow of passengers per day and hour is known in advance from flights schedules.

 

The problem is that you make definitive assertions on ,matters of which you are ignorant, in order to express your own prejudices.

The problem is that you are trying to defend the indefensible. You compatriots were totally in the wrong. 

1 hour ago, candide said:

Really? ????

https://www.majorcadailybulletin.com/holiday/airport/2022/05/25/101651/mallorca-long-airport-queues-getting-bad-press.html

https://www.euronews.com/travel/2022/05/20/palma-delays-majorca-airport-on-verge-of-collapse-after-weeks-of-long-queues

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/travel/spain-warning-tourists-those-flying-24149371

 

And it's about airports in which the flow of passengers per day and hour is known in advance from flights schedules.

 

The problem is that you make definitive assertions on ,matters of which you are ignorant, in order to express your own prejudices.

Does French border control not know in advance the scheduled arrival times of the ferries? Obviously not in Calais, or else they just decided to ignore them and cause delays to the British. 
 

What did the Majorca Daily Bulletin report about last weekend’s delays? None, because there weren’t any. Spanish border control had prepared themselves, unlike the bloodyminded spiteful French. 

3 minutes ago, bannork said:

It was in the scriptures, the creed of Project Fear. 

And lo and behold it came to pass 

Give us the Chapter and Verse for Armageddon again will you.  I need to have a laugh at that one. 

1 hour ago, baboon said:

What has the above tripe got to do with what I said?

Not enough Southern Remainers we’re delayed at Dover for the rest of the whole of UK to actually care. The rest of us don’t nip across the channel to our villas for the school holidays.  

1 hour ago, candide said:

I was being ironic. . 

 

 Taking into account the legendary Spanish sense of organisation, I doubt there are less queues in Spanish airports than in French airports. 

 

Are you being ironic again?

Check the passenger numbers for Palma or Alicante. Probably 5 or 10 times the quantity of Calais. 
Same checks according to you, but different organisation. No major queues in Spain or the Remainers would have been howling again. 
Spanish border organisation is infinitely better than the French. You need a new ledgend writer. 

39 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It’s why the UK Government spent £millions building lorry parks to deal with the delays Brexit was bound to cause.

Not the cars and caravans that were the bulk of the delayed traffic?

Operation Stack for the lorries has been around long before Brexit. 

10 minutes ago, baboon said:

Of course you don't. Just another one out for yourself and to hell with everybody else, so why would you?

Because there are more of us than you. Democracy remember?

66 Million not shackled to the EU for the convenience of Southern Remainer ferry users. 

2 hours ago, bannork said:

And now the Brexiteers are going to get mad at the Spanish too.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/brits-travelling-spain-must-prove-27568620

Oh the benefits of Brexit!

 

Nah problem. We go with wads and pockets full o dosh. Bish bash bosh all around the Costa Brava. 

1 hour ago, candide said:

In which port did 10,000 tourists/day enter Spain last week-end?

Don’t know. I’d have noticed if there were any reporting massive queues and no staff, but the Spanish were all organised. 

1 hour ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

How did the Remain voters  know that there would be a technical glitch with the Calais immigration in six years time and that there would be vigorous Covid status checks when entering France ?

Remainers probably looked in the same crystal ball that forecast Armageddon. 

2 hours ago, baboon said:

It's what you voted for. You should be happy.

As far as the queues affect me, I really don’t care. They are probably all Remainers anyway. 
As far as seeing confirmation of French spitefulness, quite satisfied. 
As far as being rid of the wretched EU, it’s not finished yet, but extremely happy.