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13 hours ago, ukrules said:
That's not what it says in English, there's no mentione of giving back anything.
Where do the pictures say something in English? The only thing I can read and understand are the sums written in numerals and the kid wrote those in themselves?
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Just now, lopburi3 said:
Actually banks have started to close, at a very fast pace (SCB 200 this year). So the bank on every corner seems to be a thing of the past generation.
Hence the push to put some of the baking services into 7-11's. That way the banks can make greater profits by transferring the work and the risk, and then cut the more expensive teller staff and some branch locations. Standard banking economics.
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Brilliant idea, let's overload an already busy system with extra work that the people are not trained for. Thereby increasing their personal risk levels by making them handle and secure more cash that will attract robbers who do not want to risk the stronger levels of security at banks.
What could possibly go wrong?
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What complete and utter twaddle!
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How many taxi drivers have been attacked or robbed..........apart from other taxi drivers that is!
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1 hour ago, Anca said:I was an optimist the first 3 days after my daughter get raped.... then I was a BIG pessimist in 6 months... and YES, last weeks I’m a optimist again! And I hope it’s worth it ? Remember: You never win if you never try hard enough✌?
I would never ever get peace in my heart again if I didn’t fight for my girl. Maybe hard for you to understand but for me this is worth it and I hope I can publish happy news about some of the Thai-authorities later??
I wish you the very best of luck. There are insufficient words for me to express my sympathy for your daughter and respect for you.
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On 9/15/2018 at 3:14 PM, NCC1701A said:
I just want to let everyone know (since most of you seem to believe this story) that I posted bail for the girl in question and she just arrived at my house in Hua Hin. She has to stay for a month and she is very thankful for some place to stay rent free. She does not have a lot of clothes so she asked if we could go shopping for a pair of those short-short jeans all the Thai girls wear.
I will let you all know how the court hearing goes.
???. Picture or it never happened!
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19 minutes ago, Just Weird said:"It is not possible to prove that a rape did not take place..."
It certainly is if the person making the allegation eventually withdraws that allegation.
But people generally withdraw an allegation of rape, or any crime for that matter, for one of four reasons -
- They made up the story in the first place.
- They have been shown that the events, as they report them, do not constitute proof of the alleged crime.
- They are under duress or inducement to withdraw by some other person or organisation; or
- They feel, for their own personal reasons, that it is not worth pursuing the allegation because of the way they feel a case will be handled and the personal stress of carrying on.
You may prove an alleged crime did not happen only by the evidence of an eyewitness, human or electronic and preferably corroborated, who saw the victim during the period that they reported the crime and nothing happened.
Simply because a person withdraws an allegation does not prove it never happened; it only proves they no longer wish to pursue the case.
We have seen many reports on here where a crime occurs and is reported but an apology and some compensation results in the allegation being withdrawn. Certainly doesn't mean it never happened.
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They've been in jail before so I assume, either mistakenly or accurately, that they may not be the most diligent or intelligent types. They don't strike me as the sort of criminals who would do lengthy observations or research to pick their targets. My GUESS is that the info on attractive targets, foreigners renting, living alone, seemingly well off and buildings with little or no security may have been passed to them. I do hope the investigation follows up on the possibility of someone directing their activities.
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Just now, Just Weird said:
If he had been drugged why was he not in the beach with here when she woke up? He mysteriously recovered and left her unconscious on the beach? Really? You believe that?
No idea if either were drugged, but if that was the case there is no guarantee that both would react in a similar manner at the same time to a similar dosage. It all depends on physical size and health condition.
If they were drugged as alleged then the drugs were not administered under laboratory conditions in terms of measured dosages.
It's extremely difficult to pick up an unconscious person from the ground on your own. Yes, I have tried; but not in the circumstances as described I must add.
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Just now, Crash999 said:
For people who say that the woman would never declare that she was raped if it didn't happen, here's a little story.
Very true, some people lie and some tell the truth. As stated earlier, I have no idea if she is telling the truth or not. Police officers should be the ones best equipped to find out based on their experience and interview techniques.
Sad to hear your story, hope you've found someone better. Had a similar experience when phoning a girl who answered the phone thinking it was her other boyfriend not me. Interesting and amusing, but poorly thought out, excuses after were fun.
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Just now, Ks45672 said:
That's child abuse /incest /rape of a minor by the father and legal Guardian so I think they would have to give the child the benefit of the doubt to ensure it didn't happen again in that case, what punishment did the father get in that case?
If cctv was not deleted then maybe it could be used to help the girl and see if she looked inebriated while leaving the bar with the alleged rapist and it would be a great help to identify him
If they both left the bar in good spirits after some drinks and walked to the beach I think it will turn into a case of "He said /She said" with neither side having a strong enough case to prove or disprove the others accusations
I have absolutely no idea of the punishment, although I have my preferences on what it should be.
If you read my post I did say it was NOT a completely similar case but I used it to demonstrate the possibility of using witnesses who did not actually see an alleged offence. In a rape case a report by the victim to persons other than the police within a reasonable time after the alleged offence CAN be used as evidence.
CCTV evidence is useful but, in many jurisdictions, is subject to specific handling procedures to ensure it has not been tampered with, and therefore an accurate depiction of what happened. Even then it can only show an apparent state of inebriation or influence of drugs; this should be backed up with blood tests. I have no idea if the CCTV was deleted or not but I agree it would be very helpful.
Rape cases in the past used to be he said/she said on too many occasions and evidence dug up to show bad character or loose sexual morals by both parties. Courts now look at the behaviour of the victim after the alleged offence as this can give them insight into the veracity of their claims.
I have no idea if a rape occurred or not as there is at present insufficient evidence for me to draw my own personal conclusions, even then it will only be my own personal opinion based on PROVEN evidence.
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Just now, animalmagic said:
Even if they had a suspect in custody with dna evidence , he could still claim they had some drinks and sex and nobody could prove there was any drugs or rape involved
Again not factually correct. If a police investigation commences immediately or shortly after the alleged rape then physical evidence can be obtained from physical examination of the victims body and from internal examinations to show that some sort of coercive force was used or that the sex was violent to some degree. I'm afraid I cannot advise on how quickly the bodily or internal damage to the victim will heal, but it will take some time. Medical professionals experienced in these examinations will be able to advise and give expert evidence thereafter to corroborate or disprove a claim.
Blood tests will easily show the presence of any drugs and the amount will reduce over time as per the victim's normal metabolic rate; again tending to verify any claim of drugs used at a certain time earlier.
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Just now, Ks45672 said:
You can't legally witness something that you didn't witness....
The mother and bf were on the other side of the world...
The friends in Thailand who saw her the next day could only say she seemed distressed or upset if that's what they noticed at the time
Even if they had a suspect in custody with dna evidence , he could still claim they had some drinks and sex and nobody could prove there was any drugs or rape involved
I never said they could. The mother, boyfriend and friends are entitled to testify on the victim's state of mind after an alleged sexual offence as she reported to them. Courts consider this as valuable testimony to prove or disprove the alleged offence. I apologise for being unable to quickly unearth a more similar case, but this seems to fit the bill.
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i.) Thai Supreme Court Decision No. 7008/2554: At trial, Victim testified that she did not resist the acts of rape committed by Defendant because Defendant was her father and that she loved him. However, during the investigation, Victim told Social Services and the Public Prosecutor that she did tell Defendant to not rape her, that Defendant continued to do so anyway, and that she was too physically weak to resist further. The Court held that although hearsay, the statement made by Victim during the investigation was more believable than her testimony at trial due to the condition, character, origin, and circumstantial facts of the statement.
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9 hours ago, Ks45672 said:
The fact she told the story to her mother, bf and uk friends in the next days does not make them into witnesses who can legally verify the story
Hearsay evidence of a crime is permitted in some circumstances. One of which is the early report of a sexual crime and the persons offering this evidence are allowed to testify on the victim's apparent state of mind and level of distress after the alleged crime. Judges would generally allow this as it tends to give an insight into their behaviour after the alleged sexual crime and therefore tend to verify or disprove a claim.
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15 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:
I don't know.
But, in the past, when he's been doing his weekly farang visa overstayer rousts/raids, he's always seemingly relied on subordinates to speak in English with those arrested. So that might be one clue as to his level of English fluency.
That does not prove the assertion. It is useful to use a qualified interpreter even if he does understand English. This method allows him to hear the answer direct and observe the respondent's body language whilst their words are being translated; this will often lead to some reasonable insight and assessment of the respondent's story. Quite often the respondent will lower their estimation of the interrogator because they think he does not speak their language, and they can then make mistakes in their responses.
Or your guess could be right.
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Whoever prepped them for that did not do a great job. Sitting back, hands out of view and expressionless faces does not seem to tally with the claim of being upset and scared at their lives being turned upside down. I expected more leaning forward, anguished faces and imploring hand movements begging people to believe that they were innocent and wrongly accused of murder. They look more like a pair of confident people with no worries at all who know they can't be touched.
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5 hours ago, webfact said:Der Spiegel magazine reported on Wednesday that a study commissioned by the German Bishops' Conference had revealed that 1,670 clerics and priests had sexually abused 3,677 minors, mostly males, in Germany over a 70-year period.
So, if my maths are correct, that is one new child terrorised and sexually molested every week for 70 years. No information was quoted on how long that went on for or what happened to these victims in later life. Extrapolate those figures to the rest of the world and the scale of the abuse is simply horrifying.
For how long can the good members of this church continue to bury their heads in the sand and ignore what has being going on around them? It is no longer isolated cases but proven rape and abuse of minors on such a scale in USA, Germany, Ireland, Australia and Chile and that makes it very difficult to believe that the hierarchy knew nothing of what was going on.
The only thing necessary for evil to succeed is that good people do nothing!
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20 hours ago, gamesgplayemail said:I hope that someone can help, she is cute and I want to do as much as I can for her.
Seriously? I find it hard to believe, though not impossible, that anyone making a genuine post would be daft enough to post the captioned comment.
You are definitely not Sir Galahad if the post is genuine, I presume you would be waving goodbye if she had a face like a bag of spanners?
If it's a troll post then you need to be more creative.
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4 hours ago, CelticBhoy said:
Thai people will video anything these days and make a mountain out of a molehill.
Now I understand the reference to accepting the bra in payment- making a mountain out of a molehill?
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Just now, CelticBhoy said:
It's only wrong if the Prathom kids are allowed to vote, surely?
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I wish the SNP had some good looking hosts like this girl!
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You've got Nicola Sturgeon!
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Just now, dotpoom said:4 people (so far) thought that was funny....
Violence of any kind is far from "funny"....for the victims...and their families. Laughing at it is just adding to their suffering....but seemingly that is not obvious to some.
I'm guessing, and Brewsterbudgen may correct me, that there was a heavy dose of irony in his comment. It was a reasonable comment that would possibly forestall all the posts about this being a terrible place. Sad fact is that every country has its fair share of lunatics who do act or react with violence at the first instance.
My mother once asked me if I was worried about living in Thailand, after she had read all the various shock/horror newspaper headlines about the place. I advised her to step outside her front door, turn left and walk downtown on Saturday night; she saw my logic, and she would visit if it wasn't for the cost of travel insurance at the age of 90.
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I think you'll find it was a protest song against the newer more 'indestructible' luggage - they were singing
"I want to break three!"
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So, taking out the names and going with generics. A person from another country has made allegations on the internet from that country that a certain part of Thailand is notorious for child sex and other such despicable activities. Will members of the local constabulary be calling for his attendance in Thailand to provide evidence of those allegations, or will he be threatened with prosecution for computer crime offences for damaging the reputation of Chiang Rai or being banned from Thailand?
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This just in: 12 plus 8 equals 4
in Thailand News
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I am reliably informed by someone of far greater intellect and language skills than me that the basis of the questions states the original person has 12 mangoes and someone else has 8 more mangoes more than them. The question then asks how many mangoes does the second person have.