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do you think it is ok to steal from someone else to get money? like thailand is doing with the compulsory licenses.
it is stealing you know. pure and simple. stealing to get rich. ..yes, I have a problem with that.
Yes, much worse than letting millions of people die because you want to make more profit for your pharmaceutical company. Or should all the poor people simply die rather than have access to cheap drugs. This isn't movie or music pirating we are talking about here, it's people who will simply die unless they spend 5 times their yearly salary on drugs to stay alive.
If generics can be made at a profit, why can't the pharmaceutical company do the same and use discretionary pricing?
if you are so high and mighty about people dying, why don't you get your country to donate some of your surplus rice to burma or some other impovished country in africa where people are starving left and right. if the starving people in africa invaded thailand to get food, would thailand allow them in?
america is the MOST generous country in the world. so, don't try making it seem not so.
the people who work at the pharmaceuticals need to make a living too. they are entitled to rewards for their hard work.
if I told you that I wanted some of your money every month to live on or else I would die, would you give it to me? be honest now.
if you are so concerned about the welfare of all these hiv people, why don't you donate some of your money to their cause?
what thailand is doing with the compulsory licenses is - stealing.
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do you think it is ok to steal from someone else to get money? like thailand is doing with the compulsory licenses.
it is stealing you know. pure and simple. stealing to get rich. ..yes, I have a problem with that.
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just for the record let us not forget that Thailand is a capital importing country just like those great "prosperous economies"
used to be. not to long ago.
what is it about those "prosperous economies" that have forgoten so quickly what they used to do when they were in the same state.
or only those "prosperous economies" are allowd to restrict... but when Thailand does it.
USA
In contrast to its strong support for foreign-investment liberalization today, when it was a capital-importing country, the USA had all kinds of provisions to ensure that foreigners invested in the country but did not control its economy. For example, the US federal government placed restrictions on foreigners’ownership in agricultural land,mining and logging. It discriminated foreign firms in banking and insurance, while prohibiting foreign investment in coastal shipping. It demanded that all directors of national banks had to be American citizens,while depriving foreign shareholders of voting rights in the case of federally-chartered banks.
It also prohibited the employment of foreign workers, thus implicitly disadvantaging foreign investors that wanted to import skilled labour from their home countries.
At the state level, there were even more restrictions. In adition to restrictions on land ownership, many states taxed foreign companies more heavily and some even refused them legal protection. The legislation of many states in the financial sector was even more discriminatory. Some states imposed more strict capital base requirements on foreign financial institutions, and some even totally banned entry into certain financial industries (e.g., NewYork state laws banning foreign bank entry).
The federal government condoned such laws and refused to take action against state governments even when there were pressures from foreign investors and governments to do so.
Europe
Advanced European countriesThe UK, France and Germany did not have to control foreign investment until the Second World War, as they were capital-exporting countries before that.
However,when they were faced with the challenge of an upsurge in American investment after the Second World War, they used a number of formal and informal mechanisms to ensure that their national interests were not hurt.
Formal mechanisms included foreign exchange control and regulations against foreign investment in sensitive sectorsl ike defence or cultural industries.
At the informal level,they used mechanisms like the SOEs, restrictions on takeover, and “undertakings” and “voluntary restrictions”by TNCs in order to restrict foreign investment and impose performance requirements.
until Finland’s accession to the EU in 1993 — Finland basically blocking any significant foreign investment.
Asia
while welcoming and subsidizing FDI in labour-intensive manufacturing sectors, Korea and Taiwan in the 1960s and the 1970s strictly restricted FDI in other industries. Also, over time,with changes in their economic structure and externalconditions, their policy stances changed. For example,Korea had a relatively open policy towards FDI in the car industry, but when it decided in the mid-1970s to develop its own car industry, it started putting heavy restrictionson FDI in the industry.
I don't recall a time when america had changed their laws so that they could confiscate foreign properties like thailand seems to be intending to do. could you please show me some examples of that policy if it in fact ever existed?
the only countries that I can recall in recent history who changed their policies so that they could confiscate foreign properties all seem to be those that were not democratic. please correct me if I am wrong.
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The new "Major Cineplex" (8 screens) has just opened...they opened on August 9. They're just opposite Soi 13 on 2nd Road.
I caught my first movie there last night (Bourne Ultimatum). They apparently had 4 movies showing, so they're not up to full speed just yet...there's a lot of finishing work still ongoing around the mall.
There wasn't any easy way to see which movies were showing yet, but the manager told me I can see what's showing on their web site. What's showing...It appears the Pattaya complex has not yet been incorporated on this website...but it's mostly in Thai so it's hard to know for sure.
The ticket price is 120 and they have VIP love seats for 500 (for 2).
over at the royal garden mall, you can see a first run movie for 70 or 80 baht. 120 is bangkok prices.
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I do not know why you think thailand would collapse if they confiscate all foreign properties?
the fact is - they won't.
Very true!
However, I would not want to be too low on the social ladder in the Thai society!
Thailand as a whole will not collapse, but the majority of the lower middle class will find themselves to be farmers again, they won't be able to make payments on their little Honda City's. Not that there will be any Honda City's be assembled in Thailand when Honda pulls out after having lost control over their multi billion Baht investments. And GM. And Isuzu.
All the sub 8000 Baht salaried people working in the service/tourism sector suddenly will not have any cash to send home to take care of parents and children!
But for sure the Thai/Chinese elite will re-establish their coveted position comfortably high above the proletariat!
I have this feeling that china will come in to help thailand. and for some odd reason, thailand will accept. actually, it may not be "odd". if you know what I mean. whether it is the same old "communist" vs. "capitalist" theme, I don't know.
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I have friends from the NE of Thailand whose families either supported the communist movement or provided aid and support to them--so I think the threat was real. This, by the way, is something they talk about, not something I ever asked about.
Had the US policy in Vietnam been radically different, I doubt that anyone would have cared much about what happened in Thailand. At the time Thailand was important because it was potentially one of the "dominos".
Given the track record of successive gov'ts over the years, I am sure they would have managed to really mess up the concept of communism! Of course, that might not have been a bad thing....
well i guess i was mislead in some books about the level of communist resistence in the north.
it constantly surprises me how short peoples memories are in regards to the slaughter by the communists in the last century. in like just 20 years, people have forgotten what happened in cambodia back in 1976, or the massive slaughters by castro and mao. and now, people are trying to rewrite the history books to erase this genocide. and in the process tarnish americas role in all this. if it wasn't for america and the western allies, communist dictators all over the world would be controlling your lifes today.
check out the following website for some numbers...
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There is good reason for that second line in the National Anthem, and for Thailand having a tough FBA.
I recommend the reading of "National Identity and its defenders" (ISBN 974 7551 88 8) for details. But, in essence, Siam could not forge a national identity easily, at the time that nation states came into vogue. There were lots of Tai-speaking people beyond what were to be the rather-arbitrary borders ofSiam.
And Tai people everywhere are wedded to being stay-at-home growers of rice on lowlands. They don't have the commercial aggression that is typical of those who venture forth from China, or the territorial and material aggression of those who ventured, or were despatched, from Britain, Portugal, Holland, and France.
The rulers of Siam, and then Thailand, had a duty, as part of their duty to provide security to those Tai subjects, to guard against the infiltrations from abroad.
To organise their commerce, they had to hire in some Chinese and, later, try to assimilate them. But Thaksin Shinawatra's actions in gathering to himself a part of the country's infrastructure and then trying to flog it to the (mainly Chinese) Singaporeans can be seen as evidence that the assimilation was not successful, and as an example of "Servants become Masters, given half a chance".
In view of the the fact that food supplies are getting more difficult, China is getting more urban mouths to feed and less farmers to grow food, and India is following suit, I would expect the Thailand government to toughen its FBA.
The way that China is using its new, huge, sovereign wealth to take over big food-growing areas of South America (that lacked that 'second line in the anthem' and a tough FBA) will not have been lost on the Thai bureaucratic polity.
Turn out the lights.......the party is over.
:D ..and close the Thai doors, for everybody, non-Thai...
Who's doing the countdown, waiting for Thailand to collapse ?
YOU Martin ?
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I do not know why you think thailand would collapse if they confiscate all foreign properties?
the fact is - they won't.
do you think the thais who are pushing to confiscate all foreign properties think their country will collapse? of course not.
they are greedily rubbing their hands laughingly waiting for the day when they can "take" your properties. it'll be like
christmas day for them.
do you think chavez was worried about his country collapsing when he took over the oil wells? how about china in 1949? or cuba when castro took over? look at malaysia. look how well they are doing after confiscating all foreign properties way back when. people have already forgotten what happened. and they look at mathidir as some kind of hero who brought malaysia
into wealth. like he didn't "steal" it. people have such short memories, it is pitiful. malaysia even has this new "second home" scam going on. and many foreigners are eating it up. short memories.
what goes around comes around.
when america finally does it by changing their currency and in by doing so erase ALL debt like so many countless other countries have done in the last century including china, do you think they will be worried about what other countries will think?
china did it 3 times in the last century. and look at them now. people look up to them so much, you wonder what could be
going through their minds.
my grandfather was a wealthy man in china back in the early part of the last century. and the communist confiscated everything he had back in 1949. do you think they give a sh#t if I said they should pay my family back for the all the
properties that they STOLE from my family back then? fat chance. my guess is they would just say - he deserved having all his properties taken, he was a capitalist.
ironic and hypocritical wouldn't you say?
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How did you pay your taxi fare - plastic?
Can't you spare a hundred baht or so for someone in need?
Maybe one day you will fall on hard times.
I've given large amounts of money to people in need knowing very well I won't ever see it again. That's not the problem. Its the fact that this guy was obviously lying to me and not needing the money for his airport tax. Otherwise he could go to the embassy and tell them that he ran out of money and they will arrange for his flight back, accommodation and food for the next 2-3 days until they can get him on a flight. Once back in his home country, the homeless shelter will take care of him if needed.
Even if you go to the Thai police and tell them you ran out of money, they will deport you back to your home country.
By his aggressiveness, I am thinking he was a drug addict.
just curious.. was the guy - caucasian, 5'7", 140 lbs, brown hair, no glasses? I met this guy who told me he didn't have any money and that he was going to complain to the us embassy about their disinterest in helping him. he said that they were required to help him because he was an american citizen. right away, I knew there was something wrong with him. so, I kept him at a distance. I remember he told me he didn't have an airplane ticket to get back home.
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man, some of you guys just don't get it. ..the writing is on the wall. their intent is to confiscate whatever they want. to take, take, take. they are showing their true colors. carrefour, lotus, dtac, ibm, ford, etc. they are all going to get taken over.
all the money that foreigners have spent here (not invested) for setting up shop, all the technology that was GIVEN to this country will be TAKEN. the morons who advocated building the factories here will get their just deserves when the stockholders learn of ALL the money lost from the takeovers.
smacks of what chavez is doing.
I dont agree with you !! They could not be that shortsighted
you may consider it shortsighted. but that is your opinion. my guess is the thais who are implementing the law do not.
many people have gone this route to confiscate foreign properties, malaysia did it, castro did it, chavez just did it, china did it back in 1949. do you think they are shortsighted?
when thailand does it, guess who will be left holding the bag? ..not me. maybe you.
you need to re-analyze the implications of the law being discussed to truly understand what it is doing.
when you controll more than 50%, you can sell it and take all the money. you don't have to give any of it to the partner who has 49%.
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after the law finally gets approval, I see all the foreign companies being confiscated. just like chavez did. ..for the benefit of the people. in this case, for the thai people.
carrefour, lotus, big C, ford, ibm, seagate, dtac, and any other foreign company will be taken over by the government.
the compulsory licenses were just the beginning.
this governments true colors are coming out.
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man, some of you guys just don't get it. ..the writing is on the wall. their intent is to confiscate whatever they want. to take, take, take. they are showing their true colors. carrefour, lotus, dtac, ibm, ford, etc. they are all going to get taken over.
all the money that foreigners have spent here (not invested) for setting up shop, all the technology that was GIVEN to this country will be TAKEN. the morons who advocated building the factories here will get their just deserves when the stockholders learn of ALL the money lost from the takeovers.
smacks of what chavez is doing.
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I wonder how telenor of norway feel about this? correct me if I'm wrong, but I think they own DTAC.
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my favorite hamburger is the jumbo jack. but they don't have any jack in the box here.
here in bangkok, the best that I have eaten is at the Bull's Head Pub on Sukhumvit Soi 33/1.
it is expensive at 160 baht. but it is good. reminds me of a steak between a bun. steak sandwich.
I've eaten the burger at Nana Hotel. it is big, and has fries. but I don't think it is very good.
when they sold it at 70 baht, it was a good deal. but it cost 100 baht now.
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do you know how they manufacture the cpu chips? one of my friends used to work for AMD. and he told me that the engineers use the same process to make all their chips basically. after the chips are made, they put them through these QA tests to see how well they perform. it is at this time when they calibrate how well the chips function. if they perform at a certain speed, they get tagged and packaged for that speed.
maybe the chip you have in your pc somehow got through the QA testing by mistake.
there are software out there that you can run to test all the components in your pc.
another thing, maybe your model has some problems that many people have reported. if this is the case, I would do a search on google to determine if there are other reports of these problems. there may even have been a recall that you were not aware of.
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protectionism. as blunt as it gets. globalization is ok if you have level playing field. but this is not fair.
america should take back all the factories, bring the jobs back to america for americans - like it should be.
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across the street over on sukumvit soi 12, you can find many 3 bedrooms with maid rooms included going for about 30k baht a month. I saw one about 250 sqm. 1 bedroom for 45k baht a month? possible - if it is a rookie with no knowledge of bangkok.
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did you read my last post? that link I provided you to this article that talks about your problem is very informative.
if you can get your system to boot up, try and do a restore. if you get a blue death screen, then, maybe something wrong with software. maybe start fresh, and reinstall windows.
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when someone is single, they have the right to talk to anyone. that is the nature of being single.
even if you give someone 50,000 baht a month, they are still single.
have you heard of the term, possessive? you don't own human beings. you don't buy people.
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skype 1-800 is free to usa and canada.
all you need to do is download and install the skype software.
supporting info...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skype
http://share.skype.com/sites/en/2005/07/fr...ee_phone_n.html
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some of the massage girls at the winwam massage over in nana square 4 floor will work as a maid. I used to go there all the
time a long time ago. anyway, I went there about 4 months ago, and some of the girls whom I have known for about 10 years told me they want to get some work as a maid to supplement their income. one of my friends who was with me at the time decided to try them out. he tells me they do good work as a maid. but you might have to train them on some of the things you want them to do in the beginning. like using the washing machine. everybody has their own routine for washing clothes.
300 baht for a 3 to 4 hour cleaning session. my friend has a 80 sqm place.
contact Let or Pond if you are interested - 081-928-5039
I think prices are negotiable depending on what you want them to do, and how far they have to travel.
one good thing about these girls is - they have worked at winwam for a long time. if you have problems, you can always go back to winwam to contact them. unlike a stranger who could run off with all your belongings.
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when the thai baht goes to 30 to 1, I am temporarily moving over to the philippines. my other backup destination is china. china is not bad depending on where you go. the prices are pretty low in many places in the southern part of china. but where you go is a personal decision. different strokes for different folks.
when I get really old (if I get there), I will probably go back to america. america is not that bad if you can't party. at least I will have my medicare, and I can go back to fishing like when I was a kid.
america will always be my first home.
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if I live in america, I absolutely have to work. no way out of it. things are so expensive.
on the other hand, over here in southeast asia, I can live a decent life without working.
it's a no brainer.
mostly economical. but I must admit, I like all the things I can do here without having to go far.
in los angeles, you have to drive 30 minutes to get anywhere. here, I can walk to over 30 different shopping
malls which are like in a 3 mile radius.
if the thai baht goes to 30 to 1, I might consider going somewhere else though.
like I said, economics.
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how can you change the virtual memory settings if you cannot boot up?
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TechRepublic article titled, "10 things you can do when Windows XP won't boot."
http://articles.techrepublic.com.com/5100-...tml?tag=nl.e138
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Do Farang Want The Thai People To Remain Poor?
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I DID DO MY RESEARCH.
like I said quote, "america is the MOST GENEROUS nation in the world." the figures that you provided looks at aid as a function of percentage of GNP. plus, it only takes in consideration the aid given by the governments.
IN ABSOLUTE DOLLARS, total dollar amounts, in 2006, the USA gave close to 23 BILLION dollars. the next country on the list was japan with close to 13 billion dollars. in comparision with china and russia, america is an angel where aid is concerned.
if you factor in donations from the private sector, the USA gives far more than all the other countries COMBINED.
one man alone, (bill gates), gave more than MOST countries in the world.
many of my statistics come from a variety of sources including nationmaster, and the hudson study. the Hudson Institute compiled their study back in I think 2004 after "some" people started spreading the lie that america was stingy. the study is very comprehensive and is over 7mb in size. if you want a copy of it, the link is below. refer to page 14 for the comparison charts.
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/eco_aid_...y-aid-as-of-gdp
http://www.nationmaster.com/forums/viewtop...asc&start=0
http://www.globalissues.org/TradeRelated/Debt/USAid.asp
http://gpr.hudson.org/files/publications/G...hilanthropy.pdf