jay-uk

i don't think he is that fussed about what's there as he lives a few km's away in the city centre. he just owns the land at our rear and some other plots nearby. a pig farm reaaly wouldn't bother him too much.

however, you are all quite right in the scheme of things it is not a huge piece of land to lose but the point is why should we lose it when it is not his in the first place.

yes as i said constructive input would be much appreciated

on the...sorry typing too quick

i'd love to do that but our house is one the other 3 rai at the front where we take our holidays. pig farming might be cutting off my nose to spite my face

its actually not even that big its only 2 talang wah (2 sq/m) so you couldn't even dig a section wide enough to walk down but this chinese guy/neighbour is bugging the hel_l out of me. I'll have to wait until i'm there i just feel it as i'm gonna get shafted one way or another when i'm not there

Thanks for all who have contributed their thoughts which prove very helpful in making a decision. We contacted the land office on Friday to discuss our solicitors suggestion of having the land surveyed again. The land office told my wife in as much words... sit tight and do nothing this guy does this all the time we always have problems with him. you have the nor sor sam why have the land measured again we have measured it three times already and the figures/dimensions keep coming up the same. At that point my wife said to me its best to wait and talk face to face with this chinese guy on our return to Ubon early next year. I tend now to belive Geoff and Khun Jean on matters but it still seems un fair but such is life i guess. I'd still like to teach him a lesson though but when in Rome .........

to avoid any future disputes when we come to sell ourselves in future we jus want this chanote to avoid any more spurious claims such as this arising but i feel we are going to have to give in to demands in order to do it which seems wrong in any country.

hi geoff

thanks for the prompt reply. the honest answer to your question is no. however, this guy has been arrogant enough to make demands without any proof shown to our solicitors. my wife and i do not want to give one inch to anyone who claims ownership without paperwork to back up his claims otherwise any tom, dick or harry could do the same. the point is not the size of land as we have told him through our solicitor if he has proof in written form then we will move our fence without delay but given the fact he has admitted his paperwork is the same as ours and no different why should we. we checked this man out and apparently he does this for a living but with small farmers who do not know any better by taking land without consent as the local farmer does not have the money or where-with-all to fight his corner and get it back. this has been confirmed also by the land office who confirm every time he is involved on land in the area it gets messy. we have tried to compromise by offering money as an incentive to sign and he still will not just to be akward. the whole thing goes way back to a previous dispute with the guy who sold us the land he seems just bitter that a farang's wife has taken ownership.

Dear all

I am looking for some advice on border disputes for anyone who has gone through somthing similar. Constructive input only please as I am already at a loss as to what to do!

My wife purchased a piece of land at the rear of our home in Ubon some months back which was some 3 rai in size and was bought under written signed contract from a Thai next to our home. All seemed well and as many of you will know you have to have the neighbours come and sign when the survey is undertaken on the day to acknowledge acceptance of the dimensions/size. We did all this when on our holiday Feb/Mar'06 but then after leaving the country tried to get a chanote and another visit had to be made by the land office. The visit did not go well as a chinese guy at the rear of our land/border objected where we had put our fence stating in his view we have taken 2 taland wah of his land. This cannot be correct as we followed the line on our nor sor sam and all previous land papers were the same showing a straight border. Even the land office have confirmed the border to be straight and measurements correct. We have tried to make sense of matters with a solicitor writing letters but this has done no good. This <deleted> will not sign and this is nothing more than an attempt to get a small piece of land for nothing but what do I do as he has got us stumped and its too small to go to court at significant cost to ourselves. He has no proof but has managed to halt the wjole process. We can sit back and do nothing and stay with our Nor Sor 3 only but to avoid future disputes we realy want the whole matter laid to rest and a chanote document in our hand. Has anyone had similar experiences and do they know of any legal ways of calling his bluff and going ahead without his signature as currently he is un-reasonably with holding the process from moving forward. Typed quickly on a Saturday afternoon, please excuse any typos.

Thanks for any help.

Jay

Hi All

Here is a photo from our last trip to North East Thailand "Pae Team Natonal Park" which is a fantastic place to visit with sand stone formation dating back millions of years. Well worth a visit and great road for anyone with a 4x4 or standard pick if you want to venture out of the city. This place is only 30-40 mins from Ubon city.

Jay

Hi All

Never had a 4x4 pick up before myself but last year i bought a 3.0 D4D vigo in Ubon and loved it. Don't get to use it much when working back in Uk its locked up most the time but when you do get chance to take it out the city on a bit of rough its great fun. If I had to moan about anything it would be the 4 wheel drive when on full lock which feels very stiff and does not feel quite right but generally they are a good all round bit of kit. Diesel costs about B1,400/tank which would last me a week or two depending on how many kms covered. Not too bad when on holiday compared to UK fuel prices (my costs back in Uk is easily £50-60/week in petrol in a 2.0L vauxhaul) but can easily understand why locals have an issue over rising fuel costs. I would recommend the vigo to anyone thinking of purchasing one. However, if you leave one standing for any great length of time make sure it is started every few days cause the mice eat the heat reflective matting under the hood. Had to replace one myself in Feb' at the local dealership as the mice had used it as a nest. Luckily they had not eated or nested anywhere else in the car but moving the car in/out your garage and starting it often is VERY important unless your are in bangkok with no mice around of cause.

Jay

This brick concept is very ineteresting. Has anyone calculated the difference in cost between each sq/metre of self manufactured brick used against convential bricks purchased locally. It would be nice to know the overall saving made using your own supply and itemising each brick into the cost of the press equipment, sand/cement and labour. Obviously the bigger the project the more chance of significant savings but if anyone knows the comparisons I would be interested to know about this. Other factors to be considered also:

Can a project be completed quicker than normal using this brick system in which case labour costs have been reduced or do you need specialist labour taking longer to complete a project.

Is the brick as strong as a normal brick or is your house likely to fall apart in a few years. What standard if any do they meet.

My family are planing other building projects in Ubon in future and I too would like to way up the options on pressing your own bricks.

Cheers.

Jay

Hi Thaibites

Got back safely last week. Not loving the weather though. 3c here in "Sunny" stafford at the moment. Snow last week but all clear now. Find myself missing Ubon already. Cheers.

Jay

Thaibites or marco are sure to know they have a great knowledge of the city and where to go.

Dear All

I have a handheld pc by Medion which has GPS and used maps on SD cards pretty much like other GPS systems. I use this in UK and it works fine but am planning to visit our home in Ubon (Isaan) and wish to use my handheld pc in my car there. My questions are as follows:

Does anyone know if I can just buy the Thai map/s from one of the shops in BKK on a SD card and will it be compatible with my hh pc. If so where to buy and approx: how much?

Secondly will GPS mapping work as far as Ubon in the North East of Thailand and upto the Laos border?

Thanks for any help.

Jay

On soil in Ubon. The last two weeks i've had another 40 truck loads dropped before I arrive so that our garden is level and can be started. Each truck has been dropped at 250 baht each from 2-5kms away. I've not seen it much lower than 200 ever especially not within the city. My wife and I drove round to all the yards and the story is mostly the same about rising fuel/diesel prices putting the price up of each truck load over the last couple of years. So much building work going on in the city that some of these yards can pick and choose which customers to supply when they are really busy and soil is in short supply. Some days we would be continually on the phone to get these guys to drop more soil. We would hear all the excuses under the sun about break downs, flat tyres you name it. They were just so busy they were doing the rounds trying to keep every customer happy. Some days we would receive soil other days no joy. There are a lot of factors to the prices generally realting to where they are situated, demand, diesel prices etc...

In the village in Sisaket we know family who can get soil at 150/truck but no good to us as we are 1 hour away and they will not bring it to us in Ubon. We are governed by the local suppliers within the city.

One word of advice about soil if you are planning to have considerable amounts dropped. Always keep the ticket book in your pocket and sign each ticket yourself for the driver each time a load is delivered. One day last year I had a team of 15 builders putting a wall up for me in Ubon. One day my wife and I needed to go into the town for a few hours so I signed up the book before leaving and left it in the sala for family to look after. I came back and 40 trucks had apparently been dropped within the space of two hours which would have been impossible given the pace at which they had dropped them over previous days. The book looked as if it had been dipped in water quickly and a bunch of pages ripped out. I took this up with the soil yard who explained there carbon copies showed 40 trucks visiting our house that day. I knew but could not prove that one of the builders had done a deal with either the driver/s or soil office. That day I was 10,000 baht out of pocket and moved to a different company after that. Needless to say the book never left my side again until I had watched every truck dropped. Expensive lesson learned for me.

Found an interesting website listing places to eat and things to see in not only Ubon but other parts of Thailand. Here is the listings on Ubon:

Thung Si Muang

This is a wide open ground in the middle of the city very much like Sanam Luang in Bangkok. It was formerly reserved as a place for the governor (Chao Muang) to perform a rice growing ceremony. Later, King Rama V abolished to the ceremony to deep it as a recreation and festival celebration area for the townspeople. A city pillar shrine is located to the south of the field.

Thung Si Muang Temple

The temple is on Luang Road in the municipal area. Built during the reign of King Rama III, it has a beautiful ordination hall in the northeastern architectural style with some influence from Bangkok. Its scripture hall, showing the most beautiful and perfect northeastern architectural style, is located in the middle of a pond. Mural paintings in this temple show the civilisations and cultures of the people of Ubon Ratchathani over 200 year ago.

Wat Supattanaramworawihan

a royal temple and the temple of the dharmayuthi Sect in the Northeast, was built in 1853 by Phra Prom Ratchawongsa (Phra Upart Ku Thong), who was Governor of Ubon Ratchathani during the reign of King Rama Iv of the Chakri Dynasty. The temple is on the bank of the Mun River, surrounded by beautiful and tranquil scenery. Two life-like lions stand in front of the Tha-Chinese-European styled ordination hall which houses the principal serene Buddha image of the temple.

Wat Si Ubon Rattanaram (Wat Si Thong)

is a royal temple on Uparat Road beside the city Hall. The ordination hall is in the same style as the Marbel Temple in Bangkok. The Topaz Buddha image, the town’s sacred image brought from Si Sattanakanahut, Laos, is kept here.

Wat Buraparam

was once the residence of many famous monks in the field of meditation such as Achan Sithachayaseno, Achan Man Purittatathera, Achan Li Thammatharo, Achan Saokantasilo, and Achan Sing Kantayakamo. At present, their statues, carved from stones from various rivers, are kept here for the people to pay respect to.

Wat Maha Wanaram

located on Sappasit Road, is an ancient temple of the city. Its former name was Wat Luang Mani Choti Sisawat; later on, the name was changed to Wat Pa Yai and then to its present name. The holy Buddha image much revered by the people of Ubon Ratchathani and nearby provinces is “Phra Chao Yai Indra Plang”. There is also a stone engraved tablet interred behind the pedestal of the Buddha image.

The National Museum

is on Khun Thani Road. It is a one-storey Panya style building built in 1918. It was once used as the City Hall. Later, it was offered to the Department of Fine Arts to be used as the National Museum of the city. It is known as the museum with the best arrangement and display of artifacts from all districts in th province. Inside, there are displays of prehistoric events, history, and cultures of the natives of Ubon Ratchathani. The Museum is open every day from 09:00-16:00 hrs., except Mondays, Tuesdays, and holidays.

Wat Tai Beach

is a sandy islet in the middle of the Mun River, located at the end of the town near the Provincial Electricity Authority of Ubon Ratchathani. During the dry season, the islet is covered with shady green tree. It is used as a recreational area for the poeople especially in the evenings when people come for picnics and swimming.

Wat Chaeng

is on Sappasit Road in the municipal area. Its wellpreserved ordination hall, in perfect northeastern style, is one of the oldest ordination halls in the province.

Wat Ban Na Muang

has a very beautiful ordination hall built of ceramics in the shape of the Suphannahong Royal Barge. Acharn Bun Mi, the abbot, is very much respected by the local people and those of the nearby provinces.

Wat Nong Bua

is on the outskirts of Ubon Ratchathani on Highway 212 Ubon-Amnat Charoen. At the third kilometre of thehighway, there is an 800 metre side road leading to the temple. It is the only temple in this province that has a rectangular chedi built in an imitation of Chedi Buddhakhaya.

Khu Kua Beach

a large sandy beach about 12 kilometres from the city, is located on the bank of the Mun River. There are many food stalls along the beach to provide services to tourists.

Ban Pa Ao

is situated at Tambon Nong Khon, 18 kilometres from the city on Highway 23. At kilometre marker 273, turn right and travel along a laterite track for another 3 kilometres. It is one of the oldest villages in Ubon Ratchathani. According to history, the villagers migrated from Vientiane, Laos during the reign of King Siri Bun San. They gradually moved from Nong Bua Lamphu, Nakhon Khuan Khan Kap Kaco, Bua Ban, ect. Until they reached Ban Pa Ao. Therefore, the village is over 200 years old and has a special identity of its own which has been handed down from its ancestors; the craft of making bronzeware and weaving beautiful silk.

Ban Kan Luang Archaeological Site

is situated in Wat Ban Kan Luang, 3 kilometres from the town along Highway 212 Turn right onto Highway 2050 for 2 kilometers the sitewas excavated by the Fine Arts Department in 1992. Discoveries include artifacts, implements, ornaments, beads, pottery and iron axes. It is believed that this settlement dates back at least 2,000 years.

Ubonratchathani - Restaurants

Amphoe Muang

A-Ree Bakery Phalorangrit Road, Tel. 244567

A-Ree Ratchabut road, Tel. 254519

Blue Bakery Suriyat Road, Tel. 244810

Chiaw Khi Khuan Thani Road, opp. Museum, Tel. 254017

Fern Hut ratchathani Road, Tel. 244305

Hong fa 302-304 Chayangkul Road, opp. Pathumrat Hotel, Tel. 313311

Indochin Sanphasit Road, near Wat Chang Tel. 254126 (Vietnamese dishes)

Kui Lin in Thosaeng Hotel, Phalochai Road, Tel. 245531-6

Kha Nom Nom Noei U-Phalisan road, Tel. 254923

Khum Thai Warin Det-U-dom road, Tel. 312390

Khai Di 24/20 Saphasit Road, Tel. 242017

Khun te Nakhonban road, Tel. 242278

Mae Nam Song Si Rim Khong Road, Tel. 351070

Na Lao Kao 38 Thepyothi road, Tel. 254-383

Pathumma Chayangkul Road, Tel. 242345

Phae Song Sakhon Hat Khu Dua Road, Tel. 241677

Phon Yutthaphan Road, Tel. 255621

Rot thip Chayangkul Road, Tel. 254401

Ratchathani in Ratchathani Hotel, Khuan Thani Road, Tel. 244377

Rabiengthong in Regent Palace Hotel, Chayangkul Road, Tel. 255529

Sajgib Pgadaebg Road, Tel. 241101

Si Kamon in Si Kamon Hotel, Tel. 255621

S.P. House Ratchabut Road, Tel. 254278

Thawiphon 478/1-2 Phrommarat Road, Tel. 245000-3

Amphoe Phibun Mangsahan

Wanthani Photchana 65/1-3 Phibun Road

Amphoe Khong Chiam

Araya Liab Maenam Khong Road, Tel. 351015

Pha Taem Ban Nong Phu Noi, on the way to Pha Taem Tel. 351010

Tourist Information

Ubon Ratchathani Province covers a total area of 15,744.85 square kilometers, with Amnat Charoen Province to the north, the Banthat Mountain Range along the4 border of the Kingdom of Cambodia to the south, the Mekhong River and Lao People’s Democratic Republic to the east, and Yathothon and Si Sa Ket Provinces to the west.

Ubon Ratchathani is divided into 19 Amphoes and 6 King Amphoes, namely: Amphoe Muang, Amphoe Warin Chamrap, Amphoe Det Udom, Amphoe Buntharik, Amphoe Na Chaluai, Amphoe Nam Yun, Amphoe Khong Chiam, Amphoe Phibun Mangsahan, Amphoe Si Muang Mai, Amphoe Trakan Phutphon, Amphoe Khemarat, Amphoe Muang Samsip, Amphoe Khuang Nai, Amphoe Kut Khaopun, Amphoe Pho Sai, Amphoe Tan Sum, Amphoe Samrong, Amphoe Sirindhorn King Amphoe Don Mot Daeng, King Amphoe Thung Si Udom, King Amphoe Na Yia, King Amphoe No Tan, King Amphoe Lao Sua kok, and King Amphoe Sawang Wirawong.

The Kha and the Suai, two local tribes, had moved from Si Sattanakanahut to this area before the Rattanakosin Period. During the reign of King Rama I, the King thought of locating the people scattered around because of war into one area. Therefore, any leader who could gather the greatest number of people and establish a secure community would be promoted to the rank of Chao Muang or Chief. For this reason, in 1786, Thao Kham Phong, who had led a group of his people to settle in the Huai

Chaeramae area on a plain on the bank of the Mun River, was promoted to the rank of Chief. Later, when he helped the Thai troops to attack Nakhon Champasak, he was promoted to the rank of Phra Pathum Worarat Suriyawong and became Chao Muang or Governor of Ban Chaeramae, which was upgraded to the status of a province called Ubon Ratchathani. Later, the city was moved to a new site at Dong U-Phung, which is the site of the present city with seven other towns as satellites.

During the reign of King Rama V, before the reform of the provincial administration which divided the kingdom into Monthon (circle), Changwat (province), and Amphoe (district), Ubon Ratchathani was annexed to Lao Kao town. Later in 1899, the name of the area was changed to the Northeastern Monthon with Ubon Ratchathani as its administrative center, and the name was changed again in 1900 to Monthon I-San.

Because of the Depression in 1915, the status of Monthon Ubon Ratchathani was reduced to only a province in Monthon Nakhon Ratchsima in 1933, the division of the kingdom into Monthon was abolished and the city has been known as Ubon Ratchathani from that time on.

Transportation

Transportation to Ubon Ratchathani is very convenient by car, train, and air.

By Car : Follow Highway 1 (Phahon Yothin Road) to Highway 2 (Friendship Highway). Then follow Highway 2 to Highway 24 (Chok ChaiDet Udom); turning onto this route and following it untio the end. The total distance is 629 kilometres. On take Highway 2 to Nakhon Ratchasima and turn onto Highway 226 to Buri Ram – Surin – Si Sa Ket – Ubon Ratchathani.

By Bus: There are both air-conditioned and ordinary buses leaving from the Northeastern Bus Terminal (Talat Mo Chit) many times a day. For detailed information Tel. 272-5228 (Ordinary Bus) and 272-5299 (Air-con-ditioned Bus) – Ubon Ratchathani Bus Terminal Tel. (045) 241831.

Private agencies: Nakhon Chai Air Tel. 2725271 (at Ubon Ratchathani Tel. 269385-6), Mong Khon Tour Tel. 2725239 (at Ubon Ratchathani Tel. 255116), Chet Chai Tour Tel. 2725264 (at Ubon Ratchathani Tel. 254885, 255907), Sahamit Tour. Tel. 2725252 (at Ubon Ratchathani Tel. 255043), Sayan Tour (Ubon Ratchathani) Tel. 254885, 242163, Siri Ratanapon (Ubon Ratchathani) Tel. 245847, 441848.

By Train: There are ordinary, rapid, and express trains from Bangkok to Ubon ratchathani every day. For more information please contact: Tel. 223-7010, 223-7020.

By Plane: Thai Airways International Ltd. Has a daily flight for passengers and air parcels from Bangkok to Ubon Ratchathani. Detailed information can be requested from Thai Airways International Ltd., Lan Luang Rd., Bangkok, Tel. 280-0060, 628-2000 and Ubon ratchathani Office, Tel. (045) 313340-4.

As for local transportation, there are bused running from Muang District to other districts and to other nearby provinces in the Northeast and the North, such as Chiang Mai.

Site Map: Ubon Ratchathani

::: Introduction

::: Hotel Reservation: ::: Tohsang Klongjiam

::: Tohsang-Ubon

::: Attractions: ::: City

::: Warin Chamrap

::: Sirindron

::: Phibun-Mangsahan

::: Khong Chiam

::: Si Muang Mai

::: Buntharik

::: Na Chaluai

::: Thung Si Udom

::: How to get there

::: Map

::: Restaurants

::: Souvenirs

::: Festivals

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Hi All Ubon Friends, Residents & Visitors

My wife and I have spent some years getting our house built in Ubon and are now at the stage where we would like to finish gardens, tiled paths/walkways, trees, grassed areas etc.. Some of the work we want to undertake ourselves chosing shrubs and tress. Limited I know but i'm not really keen on plants or flowers that may die in time but more longer range plants that are hardy enough to stand seasonal weather change. Very boring subject I know for you and myself included. I've never been big on gardening but would welcome advice from anyone who has experienced first hand local landscape gardeners, if any, within the city. Information on who they are, where they are located, cost indications for work on daily rate or total job priced would be welcomed etc....

We have a wall around our house and the gardens we wish to complete would be situated within the wall. Not a big job overall for someone who knows what they are doing. Just not a job that I want to take up my whole five week holiday through February. I could ask locals to undertake the work on day rate. I'm sure there will be no shortage of takers informing us they can do the job and have done it before. However, I would much prefer it to be someone recommended by a farang who has used them previously so we have the best chance of doing the job right. You can all stop yawning now. Ha Ha. Thanks.

Jay

Marco

I bought my young Nephew a RC Car some years back in Sisaket which was pretty neat but battery powered. Only problem was that you get about five minutes play time before having to recharge. Did not get around to buying spare batteries but overall the fuel engine types much better for power and length of play time. If I had one i'd join you but the one we have is a bit pathetic compared to a nitro powered car. They are still quite expensive to buy here in UK for fuel type RC cars £200-300 each. Did you buy yours locally in Ubon.

The battery powered car was approx: 2000 THB from memory.

Jay

Are there any tracks out off Ubon town that can be used by 4x4's or off road bikes. I would like to go and take a look myself. If anyone can suggest anywhere then please let me know. Not too rough mind you would not want to drive off a cliff or anything but generally fun roads for pickups etc..

Marco

Enjoyed our chat today also. Catch up with you soon when in Ubon early Feb. I've put your mobile no: on my phone. I'll call from my local mobile number on arrival. Can't remember which sim card is mine and/or my wife's. Not much good at remembering all these numbers as we keep changing sim cards. A few cards we bought did not work so well at our home and had to change to get a better signal.

Cheers mate.

Jay

"Sorry Isaan based guys, you can have ...........................EDITED."

Well do I sense the bitter ramblings of someone who is purley out for argument. If you do not like Isaan so much then why stumble into our forum with such negative comments about the pepole within it. For one I do have a job like many others who choice to visit and/or reside in N/E Thailand. I certainly do not have a drug problem, visit alcoholics anonymus or to my knowledge am diluded. Ubon is not in the sticks and if you had ever visited then perhaps you would know that. On the issue of children and where they should grow up. Well I too want the best for my son but whilst living in the west provides them with more in terms of financial security it does not any longer instill moral family values that you readily see amongst Thai children to their parents. After I have provided for my son, put him in the best schools UK has to offer, give him pocket money on request. He will then most likley grow up tell me to get stuffed leave home when his girlfriend's pregnant and put my wife and I in an old peoples home when we are too much trouble to look after any more. So if the west makes better people of us then I would seriously doubt those claims. Finally I have never in the past or will ever in the future live in a cave ....... So keep you negativity and shove it up your arse and stay in Tokyo if that's your love but don't come in this forum making wide and lose assumption of others that you have never met.

Marco

No problem mate. Sounds good. I'll keep in touch when we arrive.

Jay

Hi All

I'm not yet a seasoned Ubonite as most of my family's time is spent in UK becuase of work. I'm 37 yo and frequently visit our second home in Ubon 2 or 3 times a year. My day consists of an early rise in the morning around 5-5:30am usually due to the sound of bells ringing around the cows neck's next door. The local farmer keep a dozen or so cows around which double up as an alarm clock in the morning. No chickens yet but the mother-in-law is pushing for a few to keep her company. I get up have toast or corn flakes with "instant coffee" (i'm not as refined or posh as Marco" i'm used to the cheap Nescafe stuff from big C. Sit out on the porch having breakfast and listen to the local souds of wildlife common in Thailand. I rarely get to enjoy the country side in UK anymore. The next door neighbor comes to talk with my wife and chat to my son. I don't understand totally what they talk about but nice that people take the time to be friendly. Never see my neighbors in UK. The old guy talks for a while with my wife. I always laugh becuase I'm sure I can see his nuts hanging out of his sarong when he squats down to talk. Doesn't seem to bother him though so I turn a blind eye. I go out through the day shopping mostly as there is always something needed for the house its not quite finsihed yet we've been working at it for a few years now. Night times come around real quick and my son falls asleep on our bed so mother-in-law sleeps next to him for a few hours to let my wife and I hit the town. Usullay drag my wife into MK for suki bowl .. I love that stuff. Or maybe a staek in Lai Thong hotel and Kareoke down stairs later after a few beers. My wife loves to sing but pitty pepole start leaving just as a start. Didn't think my voice was that bad but realise then next moring how dismal I really was. Lovely place alround for decent living folk or respect there life with their partner/wife and don't want to reuin matters by living in the resorts. Pattaya, Phuket etc... Never really apeal to me now that i'm married. I love my wife and want to keep it that way. Too much temptation elsewhere is not good for a relationship. Ubon is the ideal place to realise your dreams without committing adultery.

Excuse me for waffling on but that is my

sorry about the spelling typed in a rush before work