wilcopops

THere's loads of housing around there. Both in new estates/villages and condos. A lot would depend on what you ae doing out there, e.g. which industrial estate you  are working on.

Check Google maps and the property web sites to get an idea where everything is. You'll need transport.

On 9/15/2019 at 4:55 PM, haymanpl said:

Why is it so bias in favor of Thais?

 

So Thai's can have guns to protect themselves but foreigners who live here permanently cannot?

so foreigners can buy guns in the USA?

18 minutes ago, Gulfsailor said:

Toyota Thailand is 100% owned by Toyota (Japan). Honda Thailand is 90+% owned by Honda (Japan). 

Thai Rung is the only majority Thai owned car manufacturing company in Thailand. 

Not exactly - the com[any to which you refer is Honda Thailand - it is a Thai company. BOI companies may have 100% foreign ownership but this is no different to industries in other countries - the result is that the Thai automotive industry is  in the world top ten most of the time.

 the basic rule is 49%, they are allowed to have a majority on the boards - they are also not just one conpany; most of the parts for the Thai motor industry are also made in Thailand. the same applies to Ford and Auto alliance, Mazda, Isuzu , Chevrolet (GM) MG Susuki, etc et BMW and Mercedes assemble some models here to avoid some duties.

thai Rung builds vehicles made from Japanese brands manufactured in Thailand, at present it appears to be Isuzu. Nissan and Mitsubishi share production lines.

the automotive industry is Thailand's second largest export industry after computer parts and components. Thai Summit are one of the largest companies as they manufacture everything from chassis to paints for most makes and own the factories.

3 hours ago, alan grice said:

Honda and Toyota are Thai.?


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You don't understand a multi-national - Honda and Toyota are 51 % Thai owned - the vehicles and parts are largely manufactured in Thailand by Thai companies, this is normal throughout the world and why the British motor industry up till Brexit is bigger than it has ever been - just a little smaller than the Thai mortor industry.

Thailand and imports hardly any cars which is why the variety is so small as there is a 300% range of taxes and duties on imports to protect the Thai industry.

38 minutes ago, aqua4 said:

Japanese

Western

Western

Disaster

 

38 minutes ago, aqua4 said:

Japanese

Western

Western

Disaster

 

you really need to get a reality check......motor industry in Thailand is majority Thai owned and run, you are confusing brands with who is doing the stuff.

Electronics are Japanese and Korean brands and the country is cash rich.

There are "foreign" companies in every successful economy and that's how it works these days.

Thailand in general is suffering from the high baht.

THe economy is export and selling their natural resources and labour - these items are getting significantly dearer now.

tourists especially from Europe are feeling the pinch - Samui has taken a big hit of late, but in the long term the demographics of tourism will make a big change.

Some western tourist/expat businesses have closed on Samui and many people are thinking "Maybe next year" I'm paid in bat dos relative to home my wages have increased about 50% over the last couple of years or so. CoL and rent have not been affected too much - a little increase in general expenses but utilities remain the same and rentals have got cheaper as people prefer to put long tremors in rather than rely on the vagaries of tourism.

5 to 20 ears ago the beachfront resort I stayed at in Chaweng was between 450 and 650 per night, now it is between 1500 and 2000 for the very same room.

so that was £6.00 per night (75baht/pound) and is now £52.00. (38baht/pound) - the value of the baht has doubled but the room is nearly 10 times more.

5 hours ago, alan grice said:

Thats true but they are the ones who allways have, now they upgraded to their advantage.️


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Sorry I don't understand.

all of a sudden Thais can travel abroad as it is so much cheaper these days!

1 hour ago, wilcopops said:

there are lies, damn lies and statistics - unfortunately even the WHO has problems reading stats from countries like Thailand and of course road deaths do not give the whole or even and accurate picture.

"Statistics refers to both quantitative data, and the classification of such data in accordance with probability theory and the application to them of methods such as hypothesis testing." WHO.

 

Here are the WHO's own comments. on their statistics and the problems they incur with countries like Thailand....

" ....... the report [GLOBAL STATUS REPORT ON ROAD SAFETY - 2018] shows that huge gaps remain in the quality and coverage of the data that countries collect and report on road traffic injuries. Reliable data on fatalities and non-fatal injuries are needed by countries to assess the scope of the road traffic injury problem, to target responses to it, and to monitor and evaluate the effectiveness of intervention measures. 

Underreporting of road traffic fatalities remains a big problem in many countries, and the situation is even worse with regard to non-fatal injuries. Furthermore, the lack of harmonization of terminology between countries, and even between sectors within them, limits comparability of data. For instance, varying time periods between the crash and death are used to define a road traffic death, and the definition of a severe non-fatal injury also varies. 

On 1/16/2013 at 2:40 PM, LaoPo said:

That's what I mentioned in my very last sentence

I wish I didn't have to do so though

there are lies, damn lies and statistics - unfortunately even the WHO has problems reading stats from countries like Thailand and of course road deaths do not give the whole or even and accurate picture.

"Statistics refers to both quantitative data, and the classification of such data in accordance with probability theory and the application to them of methods such as hypothesis testing." WHO.

I'd really to believe this story, but it ignores several basic facts about road safety in Thailand - the most salient point in this case is Thailand's collection of road safety data.

There are about 6 sources used for supplying data and several bodies that use and collate it - the problem is though that the data is very incomplete and in reality almost useless.

The one statistic that the pundits repeat ad nauseam is the "Deaths per 100k" as if that is the be all and end all of road safe - -IT IS NOT - firstly international road say figures are gathered in 3 injury categories - fatal, serious and minor - Thailand does not do this.

They also have no established long-running stats for foreigners. Why? Probably because of the general under provision of people who can actually gather these kind of stats - there is also a conspiracy theory that would suggest that if the world became aware of how many foreigners died on Samui, no-one would come here.

So even if a statistic source was produced this figure could still probably be regarded as fake news - however one thing is certain - too many people die on Samui's roads and given the demographics of the place a lot must be foreigners - it would be great if Thailand got their poop together and started actually moving into the 21st century when it comes to road safety.

PS - I note that the rural roads authority have recently sent a delegation to the UK to see how they handle road safety on smaller roads like on Samui - par for the course would be politely listing and then quietly ignoring everything they've been told.

Police and general emergency call – 191

Medical emergency call – 1669

Fire – 199

Tourist Police – 1155

Highway Police – 1193

Ambulance and Rescue – 1554

The OP raises an important point concerning road safety in Thailand.

There are no centralised emergency services.

Just look at the numbers above and th4n guess how many people know which number or numbers to ring and can even remember them in an emergency situation.

People love to go on about Thai drivers when it comes to the published road death rates yet they ignore sme vital factors when doing so. THey ar4 happy to blame drivers but less ofte refer to riders...Over 70% of these deaths are motorcyclists  …..and Thailand has aout the same number of COLLISIONS as the UK but a death rate that is at least ten times higher….. So what’s going on? A major factor has to be that RTI victims in Thailand done get medical care in time. It is well established that victims with relatively minor injuries if not treated quickly enough ca go into shock and just shut down. The quicker the emergency response tw more likely the victim is to survive …. In Thailand the victims are hit by a double whammy. Firstly the emergency services ae trdy and disorganised and secondly when they eventually turn up, they have neither training nor equipment to deal with much of the traumas involved.

In most countries you are give ONE number to call and the service then asks which service you require - usually Police, Fire or Ambulance, but Thailand has no such thing …. emergency numbers are unmanned at times, unresponsive and incompetent. The vehicles for hospitals are usually unsuitable  or unfit for purpose, privately owned and the personal either partially or totally untrained. It’s no wonder the death rate is so high, people die needlessly i the hands of tardy and untrained medics and there vehicles - FGS - Thai international has SPEED BUMPS on the ramp into A & E dept!!! Not only due they defy logic, they could serious aggravate any spinal injury being taken their…..

Not really improvements are they?... its urbanisation due to the explosion in industry and population that is imminent.

At present it appears some businesses are moving in in anticipation of the large increase in foreign mangers expected as well as a general increase in the labour population and house building.

Whereas mega infrastructure maybe in place one wonders at the capacity of local systems to cope.

In LAOS a year ago its was 20 k per person......

I was emphatically told that in Kota Buru it was 50,000.

this thread reminds me of the cartoon of someone looking at an ever increasing circle on the ground which in the end turns out to be the shadow of a massive falling rock.

1 hour ago, gk10002000 said:

Some bosses are smart and realize talent and ability.  Others, as mentioned in some posts are purely hiring eye candy or cheapest labor or people they want to just boss around and satisfy their egos. 

However in Thailand gender equality is barely accepted anywhere by employees who still cling to the old criteria of graft and nepotism....hence the hopeless government departments, education etc and the need to import high level engineers and managers from abroad.

6 hours ago, BritManToo said:

I know which one I'd bang!

...assuming you'd even be given a choice? And can you relate that to the workplace?

1 hour ago, JAFO said:

Being I work here in Thailand I see this all the time. While some spout its about sex and other things, it is just how the society behaves. They clearly do not want to pay more (No different then other countries). They also look at hire younger single women in office jobs as an opportunity to develop them. Also, consider what jobs are available. Most or service/office jobs and not many older women want that type of job and the hustle, especially with husband and children.

 

 

Pretty uninformed assessment of the situation........... Thais tend to look on employment in certain areas as gender specific, especially in industry and certainly discriminate against age.

3 hours ago, atyclb said:

 

thailand is sort of a special society.

 

 

there you have it - this poster of these pictures clearly is only interested in what women LOOk like - clearly they aren't going to get a job on merit.

It's not justt discrimination, it is sexism, mysogeny and and a whole lot of other things too.....as far as I can tell employers are free to openly discriminate against just about anything they want.

You only have to look at advertising to see how sexism is back in the 1960s - the job of "pretty girl" just about sums it all up.

merit in employment is virtually unknown in Thailand where they prefer nepotism graft and sexism over any consideration of how good they may be at the job.

On 4/15/2019 at 11:32 AM, stevenl said:

"management makes no good use of the money as seen by the damage sustained by these parks."

There been a real change in the past years. The money from these marine parks is used to protect the marine life, and the general situation has improved considerably.

It most certainly has not improved the parks at all are you unaware of the danage issues and the fact thry are now legislating retroactively to reduce numbers as well as closing some areas.??

12 hours ago, jackdd said:

If you had a Thai ID card you would get the Thai price

You probably got a non-Thai ID card, which is basically the opposite of a Thai ID card because it shows that you are a foreigner and supposed to pay the foreigner price

So now its no longer about the dual pricing right or wrong, it is about how a handful of expats are managing to get into parks without paying the surcharge?

Seems to be a very egocentric standpoint.

10 minutes ago, natway09 said:

Have you guys lost your marbles...?

Many countries have free access to their attractions for their citizens yet charge foreigners (tourists) including Japan & NZ

Stop Thai bashing , just pay the 200 Bht & keep your blood pressure under control

A tenfold surcharge .please say where!!!!

8 minutes ago, Crossy said:

It really wasn't the best example (I'll try harder next time), it's only in my mind because I had a local pass years ago, I visited the stones a whole once.

 

It's a very good example of how to run your national heritage in a fair and responsible way..... it in no way justifies the policies persued in Thailand

19 minutes ago, Crossy said:

It took me a little time to find it, but for those interested the my stonehenge example:-

 

https://www.english-heritage.org.uk/siteassets/home/visit/places-to-visit/stonehenge/plan-your-visit/s1-1_3214_local-residents-flyer-stonehenge.pdf

 

This is free access for locals and discounts for certain groups - how is this the same as or even comparable to a ten-fold surcharge for foreigners?