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OP - "the locals are not dependent on tourist money" - that would be correct - Amata City  Industries alone clam to have a "community" of 300.000 people. This doesn't include MTP or any of the other industrial complexes.....or the potential influx that will be required to service the EEC expansion.

killing snakes not a good idea - most people who get bitten by snakes are actually trying to kill them.

The golden tree snake is not considered dangerous anyway.

however one is reminded of the village in Indonesia or Malaysia the decided to rid themselves of their Cobra population and was subsequently overrun by rats and vermin. Maybe apocryphal ,but it makes the point.

                                   Here are some expansions announced just recently in Rayong/Chonburi  - No Petrochemicals? You've got to be joking!

Map Tha Put etc…….

It should also be noted that there ae already large areas of empty land with grid-road access already in place North and East of Map Tha put reay for building of plant and factories. 

Note also Asia Industrial Estate which is partly on Ban Chang already.”

The EEC - The EEC straddles three eastern provinces of Thailand – Chonburi, Rayong, and Chachoengsao – off the coast of the Gulf of Thailand and spans a total of 13,285 square kilometers. The government hopes to complete the EEC by 2021, turning these provinces into a hub for technological manufacturing and services with strong connectivity to its ASEAN neighbors by land, sea and air

https://www.aseanbriefing.com/news/2018/06/29/thailand-eastern-economic-corridor.html

 Map Ta Phutindustrial area would quickly grow and today it houses five industrial estates, one deep-sea port, and 151 major factories, including petrochemical plants, oil refineries, coal-fired power stations, and iron and steel facilities. 

Steel
Coal
Iron ore
Manufactured Products
Chemical products

https://ejatlas.org/print/maptaphut-conflict

This should smell nice!!

“The Rubber Authority of Thailand (RAOT) has mapped out a masterplan to increase annual rubber exports from Bt250 billion to Bt800 billion, while establishing a rubber industrial estate in Rayong province, part of the Eastern Economic Corridor (EEC).” - http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/Economy/30362230

A new refinery…

Fluor, in a joint venture with Raytheon Engineers and Constructors, designed and built a $2.2 billion grassroots refinery for the Rayong Refinery Company (Rayong), a joint venture of Petroleum Authority of Thailand, the Thai National Oil Company, and Shell International.

-      https://www.fluor.com/projects/rayong-refinery-construction    

 in Sri Racha and existing refinery is to be expanded……

https://www.petrofac.com/en-gb/media/news/petrofacsaipemsamsung-consortium-awarded-refinery-project-in-thailand/

19 October 2018

Petrofac/Saipem/Samsung consortium awarded refinery project in Thailand

“The project will transform the existing oil refinery in Sriracha, Chonburi, into an environmentally-friendly facility, which will produce higher quality transportation fuels. The project will also increase the refinery’s production capacity from 275,000 barrels per day to 400,000 barrels per day.” 

That’s a “cracker”!!!

Map Ta Phut Olefins lets contract for cracker debottlenecking, expansion

https://www.ogj.com/articles/2018/10/map-ta-phut-olefins-lets-contract-for-cracker-debottlenecking-expansion.html

TOYO Awarded Olefin Expansion Project in ThailandJul. 19, 2018

This project intends to increase the annual olefin production capacity of existing plant by 350,000 tons from current capacity of 1,700,000 tons (900,000 tons of ethylene and 800,000 tons of propylene). The plant is to be constructed adjacent to MOC’s existing olefin plant in Map Ta Phut, Rayong, Thailand and scheduled for completion in 2021.

https://www.toyo-eng.com/jp/en/company/news/?n=465

...and. map of the targeted region.........

On 1/29/2019 at 9:21 AM, chrisandsu said:

There is massive warehouses being built just outside of Ban chang (have to forgive me I don’t know the road) petro is a thing of the past so I doubt more will be built . Rayong is a powerhouse in Thailand . This is where the money will be long after the tourism cow has been milked .

Petro is by no means a thing of the past - PPT has vast volatile plants and Dow chemicals and others have plant there in Ban Chang itself. The need for plastics is leading to expansion in all the petrochemical induces there. note the post above.

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Project Objectives 

• To increase the capacity of natural gas and raw fluid material shipments for the petrochemical industry. Upon completion, the seaport will be able to accept 19 million additional tons of cargo (petrochemicals and natural gas) within 20 years."

On 1/29/2019 at 9:12 AM, huangnon said:

^Other than some new power plants, I don't know of any new major Petrochem plants being planned or constructed for this region? I thought the EEC was proposed to upgrade transport between the existing units only.. Please update if you have more info.

You're in for a nasty shock then. 

They re building deep sea port facilities and increasing the capacity for oil imports all so that companies like PTT can increase capacity.

v. - https://www.fleetmon.com/maritime-news/2018/24353/map-ta-phut-industrial-port-thailand-entering-phas/

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Map Ta Phut Industrial Port Phase III will see enhancements to existing infrastructure to better facilitate shipment of natural gas and raw fluid material for the petrochemical industry. "

https://www.eeco.or.th/en/project/infrastructure-development/map-ta-phut-port

On 1/22/2019 at 11:54 AM, huangnon said:

^There isn't much expansion available in the Maptaphut area now. The new infrastructure is just to connect the existing industrial plants with Chonburi, Bangkok, Ayutthaya, etc.

Map Ta Phut and the whole region is is for MASSIVE industrial expansion. Just check out the progress of the EEC - Easrtern Economic corridor of which Ban Chang is right in the middle.

why do you think they are building roads and railways to the region and digging out a deep sea port?

The improvements to infrastructure are a result of the massive industrial expansion that is already started in the area....yet the resulting pollution is still almost completely ignored.

Yes, went there quite innocently a few months ago when visiting the a River Kwai bridge. Arrived at the site and was met by people from an animal cruelty organisation handing out leaflets about the place. If the pamphlets are correct it is horrifying what goes on.

They even said that many if the men weren't monks at all and it was not a sanctuary but a business in profiteering.

Didn't go in and left as did some others and put a message on Facebook so I am pleased to see something happen there.

A rare well done to the Thai authorities

profiteering.. like all zoos in the world today.

Definitely NOT like other zoos

Yes, went there quite innocently a few months ago when visiting the a River Kwai bridge. Arrived at the site and was met by people from an animal cruelty organisation handing out leaflets about the place. If the pamphlets are correct it is horrifying what goes on.

They even said that many if the men weren't monks at all and it was not a sanctuary but a business in profiteering.

Didn't go in and left as did some others and put a message on Facebook so I am pleased to see something happen there.

A rare well done to the Thai authorities

Must say I feel somewhat ambivalent about this news. The place needs sorting but are the right people doing it?

Tried to take my test in Phuket town but could not pass the colour blind test so cant have a licence!!! I have 20/20 vision by the way.

That doesn't mean you have perfect vision and color blindness is a serious impairment for drivers too.

<quote> Former Pheu Thai Party MPs said the MPs and red-shirt leaders had been warned by security officials against giving press interviews that cast a bad light on the government and the National Council for Peace and Order.

That should convince the USA that Thailand is a free & democratic country... I remember when we were in Romania in the early 90's and groups of more than 4 were illegal and people actually had to have their curtains open in their homes! Who else prohibited free speech and freedom of it's citizens to say what they wanted to listen to what they wanted? Let me think..... Good job Thailand is a democracy (it must be, there's an 'elected' PM, right?)

Talking of curtains, did you know that at certain times Thai subjects are required to draw their 2nd floor curtains if they overlook the road?

"Former Pheu Thai Party MPs said the MPs and red-shirt leaders had been warned by security officials against giving press interviews that cast a bad light on the government and the National Council for Peace and Order."

What casts a bad light on the government is that it got where it is by force, and it is scared of its population speaking out.

Population speaking out? The red shirt leaders are all on Thaksin's payroll and will only work for Thaksin and what is best for the Shin clan.

And the minority that seized the streets of Bangkok to dispose of a democratically elected government? They were thinking of Thailand as a whole or their own, self interests ?

It is always interesting that somebody has to show their hatred for the popularly government and it's supporters, as if that is some sort of great explanation for meriting martial law and the quashing of free speech.

The red shirts are a product of Thaksin. They are financed by Thaksin to fight for him. That's it.

No need to start talking about free speech etc. Unfortunately the ones that have something to say are not heard as long as billionaires control them.

A Man City supporter speaks?

The US has NO business at all stirring up the red menace. Mind your own business USA!!!!

Just goes to show that they don't really care about a countries stability and tells me that they had Taksin in their back pocket and that they don't mind supporting a tyrant that was responsible for thousands of crimes against humanity and extrajudicial killings. As long as USA can make more money then go ahead.

I find it sad when I see that some people still are so shortsighted as to be taken in by the Takhsin "boogie man" idea. If you think that is what this is all aboutbyou really need to get some of that "attitude adjustment" the govt is handing out.

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Appears to be more or less the same as mine.

I previously had an Aero tilt-up which actually came off reasonably quick but proved a bit of a bugger to align - in the end I only removed it a couple of times in 5 years.

My current Aeroglas plastic has electric struts at the fore which would be a nuisance to take on and off. Fully up it is too low to get a motor bike under.

So........ I'd look for a manually operated one as the attachments are simpler.

Spend a bit of time looking round car parks to see what is available.

the more complex with "built-in roll bars" etc are just plain awkward and, IMO, ugly.

Apparently tests have shown that any aerodynamic benefits are negligible

I previously had an Aero tilt-up which actually came off reasonably quick but proved a bit of a bugger to align - in the end I only removed it a couple of times in 5 years.

My current Aeroglas plastic has electric struts at the fore which would be a nuisance to take on and off. Fully up it is too low to get a motor bike under.

So........ I'd look for a manually operated one as the attachments are simpler.

Spend a bit of time looking round car parks to see what is available.

the more complex with "built-in roll bars" etc are just plain awkward and, IMO, ugly.

Apparently tests have shown that any aerodynamic benefits are negligible

Ask about no claims bonus and also they do a reduced price if you accept an excess damage clause - I'm referring to AXA.

Clarion said the only thing Ozzies invented was the Rotary Cloths Line

...and stay press trousers - not sure they even invented the Hill's Hoist - they come originally from 1850s USA - the Hill's is just a development of those.

however they did (or rather an Englishman in Australia) invent the first compressed gas refridgerating system in the 1850s. This was not surprisingly primarily used by breweries (and meat processors)

Well not as much as some would like to think and there is really no English owned automotive industry there to speak of now and by constantly trying to make it relevant when it no longer is sounds like when an old codger constantly has to tell you of their past accomplishments to make themselves feel relevant but really aren't anymore. England was like the last in the world to make any inroads into a serious manufacturing effort in automobiles but the first to tank in it. The French are still relevant, the Germans are too, of course the US, the Japanese, Korea and now some other countries who own various brands, mostly revived English ones are also striving forward but there ya have it, no English owned brands are relevant anymore.

Actually your perception of the UK motor industry is quite wrong.....they now make more vehicles then ever before. If you just look at sedans or private vehicles then most of the brands are Japanese, however if you look in depth you will see many companies that are British owned (not that I consider that so important) selling well and exporting all over the world. Parts manufacturers, designers developers, commercial vehicles, agricultural machinery, engineering, excavators, building site vehicles earth movers, industrial vehicles, trailers, speciality, race cars hi-tech, fire vehicles, off-road, military...the list goes on........

Both Andrew Drummond and Nick Nostitz, who is also beens subject to threats, talk about their decision to leave in this article... http://asiancorrespondent.com/129937/veteran-foreign-journalists-forced-to-leave-thailand-following-threats/

Little difference there. Drummond is known for exposing the criminals, Nostitz is known for supporting them.

That's ugly, stupid and incorrect.

Can you support your comments ?

How I knew that may comment would be disputed by a hardcore red supporter?

is that a football team or has someone no idea about Thai politics?

Hi Folks,

Did you know that Andrew Drummond did not like ThaiVisaDotCom? Read his blog then.

I did read his blog and after that never went there again.

A good friend? of mine for many a years told me this and he my friend stopped reading ThaiVisaDotCom.

I have no problem with Andrew Drummond at all, doing very honest and good blog/job, however, why take it out on ThaiVisaDotCom for no reason at all.

Khun-fused.

Win

no reason? I think you need to read again.

he reports what he finds - it is sad that some people seem to think that disliking someone first and then digging up the dirt afterwards is an appropriate way of carrying out journalism....this is certainly not the Drummond method....he puts 2 and 2 together within the constraints of draconian laws.