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First of all that you, in advance, for your help.

I have a marriage visa , and living in Chiang Mai, so I am OK visa wise.

My son, who is 22 and a UK citizen, is looking to stay with me for a year or so. He is not planning to study and has no job in Thailand. He has a job in the UK and will be as using his own savings and staying with me .

The question is simple. Is there a visa that covers this possible situation.?

I believe I did read, on the forum, of a 3 month re-enty tourist visa?

Thanks.

I posted a few months ago, advice on how to view TV from the UK while in Thailand.

I found out that its all to do with the address of your I.S.P. (Internet Service Provider) address, so when I try to look at the BBC iPlayer or ITV iPlayer to look at the programmes, it won’t let me as it knows where I am viewing from and won’t let me have access.

So what to do, well I asked about trying to get a UK I.S.P. address while I am in Thailand, now this can be done, but it is a bit of a pain.

Well I have found out how to do this and it’s all legal and above board.

So you get an electrical item called a Slingbox, (They cost from £50mup to £200 or more) a friend in your home country and a free TV box or cable TV.

It works in a simple way,

1) You have a friend or relative in your home country who has Internet.

2) You then connect the slingbox to a Cable box or free TV box

3) You connect it to the internet.

4) Best not connect the TV box to a TV as you will solely be using the free box

4) Register at singbox to get an account ( At no cost, and no reoccurring cost either)

5) Go on line to your slingbox account and see if you are connected. Also get the Slingbox app.

What happens now is simple, you go on line, no matter where in the world and watch your freebox or cable on your PC , (or if you have apple TV or Google crome, connected to your TV )

So you are using , from Thailand, a UK ( Or other country) TV box or cable. Depending on the quality of your freebox, you can record or lots of programmes. The remote control will also appear on your screen , its just like being there.

If there are any problems all you need to do is call your friend or relative and they can switch the slingbox off then on, and all it needs to do is sit in a corner somewhere out of the way.

I hope this helps some people.

If you want to have a look go to their website at http://uk.slingbox.com/

I remember how friendly the people are, I live in Chiang Mai, and it always warms my heart in the way the people smile regardless of their circumstances

Yes it's sounds all wooly and fluffy but it's true . As a Brit I think back in the way you are treated and the attitudes of people their , not realising what they do have .

I agree with one of the posts here , I wonder why some people stay here, as all they ever do is complain about Thailand and the people . It makes you wander why they stay .

Yes there are negatives , there are bad people here, but that's everywhere

As a Brit, we have our problems, I have travelled the world, and have had the pleasure of going to the States a few times as well.

Americans who are abroad, like yourself, understand geography, however your fellow comrades back in the states, are not too up on geography, and if given a pin and asked to put in in a map, showing other parts of the world, I am not talking about unknown countries, , parts of europe, Iran etc theses countries, they have a lot of opinion about, but no idea where they are.

It seems that , like all of us, from whatever country, are being tarnished with the same brush as your fellow countrymen.

That includes me, drunken louts ( Brits) behaving badly in spain etc.

Quick advice , the UK passport Agency is struggling and about a few months behind applications .

Apparently applications are at a high the highest in 22 years . So if you are a UK resident get your passport in quick.

No idea what's happening at the embassy's

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How about you PM me her contact info, photos and description. Then I'll try to see if she will meet me for a few weeks, after a couple of months of skype. Maybe we too will fall in love, and get asked for $30k. Then you will know for sure your true position.

 
You're the third person who's requested this info (myself included). She only lives a few miles up the road but I don't think he trusts any of us not to try and... !

It's her he does not trust


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why cannt get this <deleted> wit offff people replying to him  must have same empty head

You are adding to the discussion , ? Is that some kind of wit ?


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Good advice but the OP how posted this thread has not listened to any of the advice given to him . He is set on a course and only responds to replies that suits his course.
But that is good advice for anyone


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Ok I read now every post here!

But one question , for me still not answered !

Why is it nearly impossible to win a loosing face back?

That kind of people want protect there face , are also that one

That not can handle self criticism !

I have a friend at home very straight man, married Thai wife

20 year come here for more then 40 times!

He says Thais also ignoring our face, he don't care about loosing

There're face policy in Thailand !

He say what he think!

And when airplane change price half our before take off

He. Stand inside the office counter and complaining load

That all can here!

People that want protect there face all the time,

Live in a illusion of lies to themself, and proberbly phosical ill!

This are also the reason why loosing the face people are bull headed , and cannot accept a good meaning advice from others !

Using a signal horn in traffic in other Asian country's , no problem, in Thailand someone can point a gun on you! This fact should aswer all question!

In my opinion it has absolutely nothing to do with the culture itself

It's only a excuse!

Correct. The need to save face is the demonstration of ones own weakness, on so many levels. Real men do not need to save face. Buck up. Man up. Take responsibility for ones own actions. Saving face is the opposite of this, and it an act of extreme cowardice. I do not want to hear about the cultural aspects of this. When a culture permits a person to be a weakling, in the name of face, something is wrong. Courage my boy. Courage. OWN IT!

I understand your reasoning but we are talking about face an Asian culture , you talking as a westerner from a westerners point of view and western culture.

If you were talking about a westerner then I would agree with you, but the whole discussion is about face, not a western custom. I am sure there are a lot of things in each custom or even country that others think make them weak or think its wrong.

If it's been there for century's or even longer , it must work for them.

I thought the original question was to understand why , not slag them off, which most questions seem to end up doing.

I sometimes wonder why they stay in the country, they slag it off and the people so much.

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I believe posters stated already their opinion of FACE.....that is not slagging off, its stating an opinion.

If you know where the perfect country is, all of us would like to know, name it please.

The original question was how to handle it, (face). Not what their opinion is .

I can't give you a perfect country to live in, as that's subjective , and my personal opinion .

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Well if you dint think anyone believes you, stop posting and looking for attention.

It's all words


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Ok I read now every post here!

But one question , for me still not answered !

Why is it nearly impossible to win a loosing face back?

That kind of people want protect there face , are also that one

That not can handle self criticism !

I have a friend at home very straight man, married Thai wife

20 year come here for more then 40 times!

He says Thais also ignoring our face, he don't care about loosing

There're face policy in Thailand !

He say what he think!

And when airplane change price half our before take off

He. Stand inside the office counter and complaining load

That all can here!

People that want protect there face all the time,

Live in a illusion of lies to themself, and proberbly phosical ill!

This are also the reason why loosing the face people are bull headed , and cannot accept a good meaning advice from others !

Using a signal horn in traffic in other Asian country's , no problem, in Thailand someone can point a gun on you! This fact should aswer all question!

In my opinion it has absolutely nothing to do with the culture itself

It's only a excuse!

Correct. The need to save face is the demonstration of ones own weakness, on so many levels. Real men do not need to save face. Buck up. Man up. Take responsibility for ones own actions. Saving face is the opposite of this, and it an act of extreme cowardice. I do not want to hear about the cultural aspects of this. When a culture permits a person to be a weakling, in the name of face, something is wrong. Courage my boy. Courage. OWN IT!

I understand your reasoning but we are talking about face an Asian culture , you talking as a westerner from a westerners point of view and western culture.

If you were talking about a westerner then I would agree with you, but the whole discussion is about face, not a western custom. I am sure there are a lot of things in each custom or even country that others think make them weak or think its wrong.

If it's been there for century's or even longer , it must work for them.

I thought the original question was to understand why , not slag them off, which most questions seem to end up doing.

I sometimes wonder why they stay in the country, they slag it off and the people so much.

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Thanks , great advice, and yes it is addictive

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In some parts of the world where there are popular beachfronts you have free or almost free shuttles as a service to beachgoers and tourists. Rather than trying to police pirate taxi service of any kind and contributing to traffic congestion, such shuttles would eventually choke off pirate taxi service through lack of competitiveness.

In this part of the world anyone who has tried a public transport service between hotel --> beach gets choked literally, I can only guess that those hotels/resorts offering free shuttle service from hotel to beach and back must be paying off the tuk tuk mafia to prevent any 'disruption' to their guest service..m

I was at a small party last night. This topic came up. Out of 5-6 couples, every one said they would never go back to Phuket because of hassles by the taxi mafia. Several reported being threatened quite seriously.

Seems pretty much every major tourist destination outside Bangkok has this problem. Lack of real metered taxis.

No problem in Chiang Mai

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Just one important thing, a will is world wide, you cannot have two wills, eg, one in Thailand and in your home country. The latest one will override the previous, so make sure whatever will include in your will covers all items from both or all countries .

I was told this by lawyers in both countries

Hope this helps

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That is not correct, a separate will for Thailand is advisable and your home country will must reference its existence and the scope of both of them, lawyers in the UK and Thailand have confirmed this fact repeatedly..

Yes you are right, but it does depend on how the will is worded. I took the sand point of the normal wording

Most wills state , that this will overrides all other existing wills, if you do this, then yes, only one will apply, that one, no matter what country.

However if you write a will in the knowledge of another will in another country, and state that in both wills, you can have two wills.

I did not mean to confuse anyone, including me lol

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Just one important thing, a will is world wide, you cannot have two wills, eg, one in Thailand and in your home country. The latest one will override the previous, so make sure whatever will include in your will covers all items from both or all countries .

I was told this by lawyers in both countries

Hope this helps

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Just a question regarding internet providers

I want to be able to look at UK sites, like BBC I player, ITV players etc, but can't use them in Thailand as the players recognise that the provider is not a UK based one

Can I get around this in anyway, as I want to keep track of programmes etc in the UK.

If there are ways to get around this that are, errrm. Dubious, please message me instead of going public.

Thanks

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I hope you like these, comments (constructive) are welcome

These are my first attempt of a shoot in a studio, on a live model. Found it fun but still learning

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Some Posting here have mentioned that Thais will have no consequences regarding face.

You have to remember most Thai's are Buddhists , so there are consequences , karma , Buddhists believe that they will pay for their actions , for the good or bad, by karma .

Remember you are thinking as a non Thai or Buddhist

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Are the police doing more since the coup , or are there just more posts ?

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It is a difficult thing to explain.

I was stationed in Hong Kong for 2 years and face ( or Prestige, honour or reputation ) is just as part or the Cantonese / Chinese culture as it is in Thailand.

Yes they will lei even when they are found out, as admitting to you that they have made a mistake will result in them loosing face. If you are a boss of a company, then it may be better to get another Thai, who is in a higher position, to tell them off or discipline them. This way they will be disciplined but not loose as much face as being caught or told off by a Falang. Before you throw your arms up in aghast. yep, I know it may seem stupid to you, or to me, but it works.

Showing understanding and respect, even when they are in the wrong is very important. Others will see it and see how you handle it and this in its self will give you respect in their eyes, if you felt with it correctly. Yep you can say , bugger it, I don't care, and you can, but could cause an adverst effect for you.

Yes the Thais will give you a bit of leeway being a Falang, but things like touching someones head, using your feet to pick things up etc, are extremely bad manners and disrespectful, so understanding their culture is important.

Like a lot of things in Asia, you have two s=choices, bang your head against the wall and get a headache, or go with the flow.

I hope this helps a bit.

Yep I am expecting a lot of negative responses to this.

Showing respect to somebody who lies to you !!

In general, people who lie and get away with it, do not stop doing it.

The reason thais hardly trust each other, reason for it must be " face " as well then.

Generalisation at it best

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It is a difficult thing to explain.

I was stationed in Hong Kong for 2 years and face ( or Prestige, honour or reputation ) is just as part or the Cantonese / Chinese culture as it is in Thailand.

Yes they will lei even when they are found out, as admitting to you that they have made a mistake will result in them loosing face. If you are a boss of a company, then it may be better to get another Thai, who is in a higher position, to tell them off or discipline them. This way they will be disciplined but not loose as much face as being caught or told off by a Falang. Before you throw your arms up in aghast. yep, I know it may seem stupid to you, or to me, but it works.

Showing understanding and respect, even when they are in the wrong is very important. Others will see it and see how you handle it and this in its self will give you respect in their eyes, if you felt with it correctly. Yep you can say , bugger it, I don't care, and you can, but could cause an adverst effect for you.

Yes the Thais will give you a bit of leeway being a Falang, but things like touching someones head, using your feet to pick things up etc, are extremely bad manners and disrespectful, so understanding their culture is important.

Like a lot of things in Asia, you have two s=choices, bang your head against the wall and get a headache, or go with the flow.

I hope this helps a bit.

Yep I am expecting a lot of negative responses to this.

Are you proposing that Thailand should reject the democratic principle of one person, one vote? I do not know enough of Thai politics to express any view at all but please remember that the "clique" you refer were elected by a large majority of the population.

In my opinion, hugh2121, most of the foreigners in Chiang Mai have no idea what is really happening in Thai politics (and most everything else, for that matter). If a person cannot speak, read, and understand Thai, they cannot even start to understand how Thais think, in my opinion. Furthermore, I can appreciate that the longer one lives in Chiang Mai, they may understand more than before living here, but still I don't think non-Thais will ever fully understand.

I am amazed at the people that are here for a relatively short time (compared to a local native) and think they understand the thinking and appropriateness of all that goes on. I have asked before how long one has to live here to be an "old-timer" or not a "new comer". I have never gotten an answer.

Many people come from Western countries saying they like the Thai life style, then wish for amenities and pleasures that are available where they came from. Then wonder why the prices go up.

Most posters that I personally consider having been here a long time (much longer than me) do not espouse the views posted by people living here 2, 4, 6, 10 years, for example. I enjoy reading the posts from these "old timers".

Of course there are posters that understand that they do not understand.

Maybe I am just having a slow morning...... again.

Just to pick up one one thing.

Speaking, reading and understanding Thai would not make you understand them or how they think. There are members here from the States and the UK , both speak English and don't understand their politics or understand them.

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