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The Steed was made in both 400cc and 600cc versions- it's primarily sold in Japan, where the 400cc version is more popular due to the tiered licensing system which limits most riders to 400cc or lower displacement.
I think I was closest in my assessment of the OP.
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My takeaway was that the bike was being offered on consignment and the owner hadn't been fully paid or informed that the bike was actually ready and had been (illegally) sold to the OP.
Or maybe not- it's kind of confusing...
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The ER-6N's seat height is about the same as the CB400 and SR400 (and a lot higher than the Steed's...)
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150K will get you close to a nice ER-6N- there's a clean 2010 in the TV classifieds going for 170K- you could toss a 150K offer at the seller and see what happens.
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I did see a couple Waves exhibiting a LOT of trust in their tires.
Thanks for the route suggestions.
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Mania, I really appreciate your posting specific details (which I need as I can get lost inside a phone booth). I'll give that route a shot within the next week.
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On the road I'm just a random rider- on the board I'm a specific person, and that can make me (or you, or anyone) a target of some random loon who you may have slighted in the past, and now he'll try to make some trouble for no other other than his entertainment.Question: why everyone is hiding their LP on the pictures? Anything bad can be done with it online? I mean you don't ride (drive) around with it covered so what's the big deal posting it online?
Is it a big worry? No, but I don't post any of my specific personal details online anywhere, and certainly not here.
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Excellent- thanks for that.
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Did another run today a bit before noon- almost no traffic and a dry road (though still cool with temps ranging from 16*-22*- ideal riding weather). I dogged it through a couple of the hairpins (my bike just ain't the ideal motorcycle for that run;)), but I quite enjoyed myself and I'll do it again over the weekend. Now I'm going to look for a fast road with sweepers rather than hairpins, which is more of the 14R's element- any suggestions, Mania?
The obligatory bike pic:
The spicy strawberry, tomato, and gooseberry salad (all sourced from a farm on the Loop a couple days ago) that my wife had waiting for me when I got back (I'd still recommend that you single guys stay single, but marriage ain't all bad;)):
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In about an hour- I'm stuck inside watching my kid waiting for my wife to come home so I can escape... That's why I have time to argue on the net.
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Well, it is kind of insulting to tell people to research a point rather than providing links to support it, especially when it seems you haven't bothered to look into it yourself- I expected to be bombarded with links that would agree with what you said, and that wasn't tbe case (beyond people making unsubstantiated claims on various boards and a reference to a single debunked report).
You said 'Google it'- I did, and found what you posted as fact to be incorrect- it wasn't hard to 'cherry-pick' comments when the vast majority of them countered what you said (in fact, that's not 'cherry-picking' at all, but, rather, it's presenting the majority view which is backed up by referenced data). The reports referenced in my links supported that full-face helmets don't contribute to neck injuries (in fact, one report said that we're beneficial to neck protection), so direct comparison to another helmet type is pointless (though if you find data I'd like to see it).
Post something that backs up what you're claiming if you want to be taken seriously- it's not up to me to defend or support your premise- I only have to present evidence that backs up my own point of view- it's up to you (if you can or care to) to support your own view.
Making a choice for comfort is something I might not agree with, but I wouldn't argue with it either.
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Jac- I saw a couple FZ-09s at Pop Car Rent in CM (no idea of prices- I passed by in my car) if you're in the neighborhood and want to try it out.
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Wear what you want (or go helmetless- I don't care- what bothers me are the people who make incorrect justifications for what they do, or believe- and post as fact- incorrect info that might negatively impact newbs seeking help). Choosing comfort over safety is a valid reason and it's a legitimate personal choice- your 'neck-breaker' argument isn't:
I took the time to google it- Here's what I found (also note that neck injuries to riders- helmet or not- occur in less than 1% of bike accidents):
Reason 7 for a helmet law: Helmets dont increase the likelihood of spinal cord injury or motorcycle crash.
Critics of helmet laws often cite a highly disputed study by J.P. Goldstein indicating the added weight of helmets cause neck injuries and spinal cord injuries during crashes. More than a dozen peer reviewed medical studies have refuted this claim. A study reported in the Annals of Emergency Medicine analyzed 1,153 motorcycle crashes in four states and determined that helmets reduce head injuries without an increased occurrence of spinal injuries in motorcycle trauma. Studies also show that helmets do not restrict vision, interfere with hearing, or cause heat discomfort
http://www.michiganautolaw.com/blog/2011/12/23/helmets-do-not-increase-sci-motorcycle-accidents/
Full Face Motorcycle Helmets
A full face motorcycle helmet is the most common type of helmet youll see on the road. This is the style most traditionally associated with what a motorcycle helmet looks like. Its also the style that provides you the best protection.
It seems odd that this is a claim which would need to be defended, but one common claim youll hear among anti-helmet riders is that full face motorcycle helmets actually increase your risk of serious injury or death in a crash. The reasoning of this urban legend tends to go along the lines of wearing a motorcycle helmet increases the odds of a broken neck then citing such reasons as the size of a helmet creates more leverage against your neck in a crash or the helmet adds weight that makes your neck break more easily, like an orange on a toothpick. Most people who tell this also cite some personal experience like I knew a guy who had a motorcycle helmet and broke his neck.
So, rather than arguing, lets look at the statistics.
First, lets just deal with the broken neck claim. The first thing to say is that, yes, a motorcycle helmet increases the weight of your head. But the question is whether that increases your risks. Interestingly, some surveys of the medical literature show a wash when it comes to neck injuries. According to these reports, motorcycle helmet use seems to neither decrease nor increase the incidence of neck injury. And yet, that sort of makes sense. A helmet is protecting your head, not your neck.
Other reports, however, show a large decrease in neck injury amongst riders wearing motorcycle helmets. There is no support, however, for claims that motorcycle helmets actually increase head or neck injury. And most studies show significantly LOWER neck injury amongst helmeted riders involved in a crash. (see Sarkar, S., Peek, C., & Kraus, J.F. (1995) Fatal Injuries in Motorcycle Riders According to Helmet Use. Journal of Trauma, 38(2): 242-245. )
So if wearing a helmet doesnt pose an increased risk to your neck, what about your head?
The leading cause of death in motorcycle crashes is head injury. Period.
(see: U.S. Department of Transportation/National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, State Legislative Fact Sheet)
Second, the NHTSA (National Highway Transportation Safety Authority) estimates, based on cold hard crash statistics, that a rider without a helmet is 40% more likely to suffer a fatal head injury and 15% more likely to suffer a nonfatal head injury than a helmeted motorcyclist. Add that up and an unhelmeted rider is 55% more likely to suffer either a serious or fatal head injury in a crash.
Is that a coin flip youre willing to take?
Some would say yes, and there are understandable reasons some people choose to accept that risk. But please understand that the claims that wearing a motorcycle helmet actually INCREASES the odds of injury or death are just plain false. The facts support the undeniable conclusion that you are far, far safer with a motorcycle helmet than without one.
So the fact is this: statistics show that 35% of crashes involve severe impact to the chin area. The full face motorcycle helmet is they design which provides protection in this type of crash.
http://motorcycle-helmets-guide.blogspot.com/2008/10/full-face-motorcycle-helmets-types-of.html
There are loads of other links (if you take the time to google them...)
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Yeah, I'm a 'beat the traffic/heat' guy, but I don't think that's as much of an issue in CM as it is farther south.
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Rode as far as the international school very early (sunrise) this morning (I have some appointments today so I couldn't make it later or do the whole loop)- the road was very cold and damp and my TC came on several times, and the rear didn't feel very well planted at all, and the front was sliding as well, which I don't particularly enjoy...- I'm going to run it again closer to noon tomorrow or Thursday when temps are higher so traction should be less of an issue. Great curves, though, and (except for a few short sections) the road surface ranges from decent to excellent- I'd just avoid it really early (after 9am would likely be better this time of year).
I was nice to have it virtually to myself, though.
Temps ran between 13*-16* (this is Thailand? It's still going to get colder in the next couple of months???) Even in non-perf full leathers it was a bit chilly- the bike was loving it, though, and the engine was running over 10* cooler than usual- coupled with the cool, dense air the power output was the highest I've ever felt (not that I needed it on the Loop, but I opened it up on the highway a tad).
It's easy to see the appeal of CM for motorcyclists, and I've barely scratched the surface.
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If it's more of a sight-seeing ride I'd have to take the car as my wife would want to go, and she won't ride on the bike with me (she would before our daughter was born, but now she reasons- quite correctly- that we shouldn't risk having the kid lose both of us- I'm the more disposable one, I guess;)).
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If I can sneak away that long I'll try that ride- I first thought I was coming here alone so I assumed my time would be my own- with the family it will be a couple hours at a stretch (though their being with me means I can stay longer).
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I stopped by a farm in CM today that had several Chinese-made ATVs for rent and for working around the place, and I thought of this thread. I made a point of asking the owner about reliability- I expected him to say it was good (no matter what the truth was), but he said he had constant problems with them and they were always breaking down, especially when bigger guys rode them (he said 'Like you'- I weigh about 85kg).
Not trying to put a damper on your thread and I hope your experience is different, but I'm just passing along what he said.
I took a pic:
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I arrived in CM last night (my bike arrived earlier in the day- not a scratch- Ancra straps and a Canyon Dancer II are well worth the small investment).
My plan was to ride mania's route suggestion this morning, but the wife wanted my daughter to see a strawberry farm, so I took the car (we actually had fun once my daughter finished puking all over the place and her stomach settled down...). We went as far as the Napa Phupa farm- I counted eleven decreasing radius turns with elevation changes (that will be an adventure on my large bike), four of which came in quick succession, plus many other fairly tight turns- the section I drove was more technical than I expected (I ended up turning around and heading back the same way, but the other half looks much faster). Great stuff, but I can see it biting you hard if you don't respect it.
If I have the chance, I will ride it tomorrow- I'm digging CM so far.
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Never mind- edited- it's pretty pointless commenting on the OP in light of the responses that have already been posted- people have used a thread asking for respect to take digs at other posters- that's the nature of this board, and we all have to deal with it.
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Riding fast on the street (which I do on occasion- I didn't buy a high-performance bike to ride it like a scooter- buying a bike that's not made for the riding you plan to do is pretty silly) is about judiciously picking your spots- skill does indeed enter into it (some 'riders' need to realize that 'skill' also encompasses knowing how to increase your margin of safety, and not just how to take a turn at speed).
If you want to be a 'rolling roadblock' go right ahead, but in LOS that's also extremely dangerous as having cars and trucks constantly overtake you means you have to have too much reliance on the skills of others rather than on your own. If you don't work on your roadcraft, you're an accident waiting to happen- if you ride fast in foolish situations, the same is also true.
Work on your skills- this includes properly reading the road and anticipating traffic- don't be lulled into thinking that plodding along like an old lady will keep you safe- a smart rider always rides faster than the flow of traffic as it's easier to see a 'moving target'- unless you're in stop-and-go traffic, ride with your brights on- know that with a few million scooters on the road, drivers are conditioned to think you're riding fairly slowly (under 80kph) and will assume they have time to make maneuvers that will kill you if you're going 160kph.
Most riders cause their own problems- learn how to minimize this and your chances of survival increase. Spend some money and improve your brakes, and practice braking drills and 'panic stops'- buy HID lighting- take a course or do an track day with instructors if possible. Ride smart.
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Cool- thanks for that.
I'm all about the ride- I save the sight-seeing for when I'm in the car.
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GT Rider is having a Boxing Day ride:
No offense to you or any GTR members, but I won't be going on any of their official rides due to an issue I had a couple months ago. If we were to happen to meet up under other circumstances, it would be a different story.
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We don't need the pics...
It's likely nothing would have saved him, but that's in this particular case for this particular rider- in any event, that's not the point I was making. We will likely have the 'he was wearing a helmet and still died' comments, but that doesn't reflect on the majority of other scenarios, most of which end in injury rather than death and which a rider is far more likely to experience, and that this accident shouldn't be some sort of cherry-picked justification for wearing less than the best gear. If you dress minimally that's your choice, but at least rationalize it for the right reasons (usually comfort or laziness) rather than looking at the ultimate price as an inevitability.
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I'd say 'in the ballpark' rather than 'spot on'.
Sarcasm is way more effective when your post doesn't read as if it went through Google Translate from Klingon to English...