bealus

The GoPro comes with a wateproof housing- the new 3 is out, and you might still find some great deals on a leftover 2.

The waterproof housing for the GoPro is excellent. I have diver friends that have used them as deep as 130 feet with no problems.

have used them as deep as 130 feet with no problems

will survive any pothole in Thailand then..........

Chinavasion.com do some great ones and phones etc: they ship to LOS from HK

Chinavasion.com do some great ones and phones etc: they ship to LOS from HK

lot of interesting gadgets; bookmarked it

The GoPro comes with a wateproof housing- the new 3 is out, and you might still find some great deals on a leftover 2.

Thx for the info; will Google for the specs. Wish it has a loop-funtion too

www.manapethairidgeback.com is one breeder of the Thai ridgeback.

www.manapethairidgeback.com is one breeder of the Thai ridgeback.

Thanks for the info

As I see quite a few cars in Thailand(owned by Fa rang as well as Thai)are being equipped with a dash-cam, and this may not be

a disadvantage considering Thai road conditions and style of driving, I have a question:

Recently bought a bike myself here and enjoy it a lot; but while trying to anticipating on the traffic, sometimes it's a close call to avoid

accidents. Bit of proof or evidence from the accident or incident could come in handy.

So I wonder are there waterproof mountable kind of dash/cockpit cams for motorcycles available, does someone has experience with them, and where can they be bought/ordered in Thailand?

why not go for a rhodesian or a thai ridgeback? fit the weather, big, workable personalties (well, the rhodie is, not sure about the thai version)... but with the thai ridgeback, u can find good breeders, and its still rare, only certain people have them.).

why not go for a rhodesian or a thai ridgeback? fit the weather, big, workable personalties (well, the rhodie is, not sure about the thai version)... but with the thai ridgeback, u can find good breeders, and its still rare, only certain people have them.).

i am interested in a rhodesian(preferable) or secondly Thai ridgeback. Any reliable breeders you know of or can recommend? Would appreciate further info, either here or thru pm thx

Probably doesn't come under banter and entertainment, but within the OP's specs:

One of my first GFs here had been brought from the Burmese border town Mae Sot when she was 14 by an officer who kept her locked up in the maintenance shack at the top of his condo for three months until she'd been properly "broken in" and addicted to drugs (sounded like some sort of speedball mix), and then put to work at his friend's karaoke bar.

It took her over two years to work off the debt she had to pay off - the price the bar owner had paid for her from the cop - and then she was able to start freelancing.

I expressed skepticism about her hard-luck story, so she took me to see the bar, by then had a different owner but apparently little else had changed. She was shaking the whole time afraid she's see the cop, although she didn't have any logical reason to be afraid of him, pure gut emotional reaction.

I didn't doubt her story at all after that, she never did try to get anything extra out of me for pity's sake or anything

Probably doesn't come under banter and entertainment, but within the OP's specs:+1

Living in Thailand I personally had in 10 years only 3 encounters with the B.I.B.: 2 x no helmet, 1 X stopped having a blue light in front of the car(which was noteven mine).

Quite boring, I know.

So I could do for some juicy/ironic/humorous/painful/memorable/educational/etc etc personal encounters YOU had with the B.I.B. in LOS.

So grab your writer's gun, let it all out and eh shoot

I bought a basic Mitsubishi Triton truck at an auction in BKK; it was just over a year old with 5,500 km on the clock. It was a repo and the owner had removed the Mitsu wheels to prevent removal - so it came with new wheels; there was a chemical stain on the bonnet and on the windscreen. I never doubted the mileage because of the new wheels and also it smelled new inside, and under the bonnet it looked brand new - inside was immaculate with the works covers still on the bench at the back and on the sun guards. 4 years later it's just been in for its 100,000 km service, including change of the timing belt, and has never given me any problems whatsoever. An expat car hire guy recommended that if I wanted a basic 2 door manual truck then I would get a good deal at the auctions; I took my time, three visits to the auction, to check out how it all worked, and when I saw my truck and I set a limit and I got it. Got all the paperwork too including the radio manual and as I say it's been plain sailing ever since.

I would have no hesitation buying at an auction again.

I bought a basic Mitsubishi Triton truck at an auction in BKK; it was just over a year old with 5,500 km on the clock. It was a repo and the owner had removed the Mitsu wheels to prevent removal - so it came with new wheels; there was a chemical stain on the bonnet and on the windscreen. I never doubted the mileage because of the new wheels and also it smelled new inside, and under the bonnet it looked brand new - inside was immaculate with the works covers still on the bench at the back and on the sun guards. 4 years later it's just been in for its 100,000 km service, including change of the timing belt, and has never given me any problems whatsoever. An expat car hire guy recommended that if I wanted a basic 2 door manual truck then I would get a good deal at the auctions; I took my time, three visits to the auction, to check out how it all worked, and when I saw my truck and I set a limit and I got it. Got all the paperwork too including the radio manual and as I say it's been plain sailing ever since.

I would have no hesitation buying at an auction again.

Crossed my mind too, buying at an auction; saw it once on Thai television. My gf said too tricky; you prove otherwise. Can you give an estimate (in %)how much you saved buying at an auction compared to the "regular"

market? Were you confronted with fierce commercial competition from 2nd hand car dealers? Do they only sell cars or motorcycles too? Was this an auction done by a specialized company or by the government? Appreciate if you can give some more info, thx!

Bealus I can't prove anything and wouldn't want to. I'm not saying auctions are better, I'm just telling you my experience and how I got a pickup at an auction and haven't had a problem with it; that has been my experience so far. Had I been ripped off and paid out good money for a load of old rubbish I would tell you and advise you to stay clear of auctions. But that wasn't my experience - it was surprisingly positive.

The company is a mature business and they have auctions every weekend: bikes and motors. Professionally run. They publish a lot list a few days before the auction. You can download this online: it is in Thai but enough of it is in English to get a sense of what is coming up and their reserve price and your Thai relations will be able to assist you with this.

As I said I went on three consecutive Saturday; I knew what I wanted: two or four door pickup, diesel and manual gears. I set myself a limit and stuck to it. In the end I got what I wanted, 3,000 baht below my limit. To bid you have to make a deposit which is off-set against any purchase; if you don't purchase you get your deposit back. I then paid the balance by bank transfer and I picked the vehicle up on the Thursday after the auction. Driving it out of the auction site was the moment of truth: as I was expecting the thermometer gauge to explode and the engine to overheat but it handled the stop and start of the rush hour and got me home safely and has been going like a good thing ever since.

I probably paid more than a dealer but I reckon at the time I saved a good amount - between 60-80,000 THB, but you have to take into account there was a little bit of damage on the body and it lacked the original Mitsu wheels.

As it was a repo the auction company was in effect the finance company's agent but they processed all the paperwork and there were no issues when we registered the change of ownership at the land vehicle registry.

I really doubt whether I could have got a better deal in a private purchase or from a dealer - you know we have this phenomenon here of people who think foreigners are only too happy to pay a bit ( or a lot) more. I think I could have wasted a lot of time trying to buy this way.

I was impressed by the whole set up and would have little hesitation to go this route next time - sell the pick up at the auction and then buy a new one.

@gerryBScot:

Thanks a lot and much appreciated for the effort you made to give extensive information about what's going on at a Thai organized auction. Get a good picture now and makes me curious to at least visit such an auction "live". Wish your Triton will run for at least another 100.000 km!!!

I bought a basic Mitsubishi Triton truck at an auction in BKK; it was just over a year old with 5,500 km on the clock. It was a repo and the owner had removed the Mitsu wheels to prevent removal - so it came with new wheels; there was a chemical stain on the bonnet and on the windscreen. I never doubted the mileage because of the new wheels and also it smelled new inside, and under the bonnet it looked brand new - inside was immaculate with the works covers still on the bench at the back and on the sun guards. 4 years later it's just been in for its 100,000 km service, including change of the timing belt, and has never given me any problems whatsoever. An expat car hire guy recommended that if I wanted a basic 2 door manual truck then I would get a good deal at the auctions; I took my time, three visits to the auction, to check out how it all worked, and when I saw my truck and I set a limit and I got it. Got all the paperwork too including the radio manual and as I say it's been plain sailing ever since.

I would have no hesitation buying at an auction again.

I bought a basic Mitsubishi Triton truck at an auction in BKK; it was just over a year old with 5,500 km on the clock. It was a repo and the owner had removed the Mitsu wheels to prevent removal - so it came with new wheels; there was a chemical stain on the bonnet and on the windscreen. I never doubted the mileage because of the new wheels and also it smelled new inside, and under the bonnet it looked brand new - inside was immaculate with the works covers still on the bench at the back and on the sun guards. 4 years later it's just been in for its 100,000 km service, including change of the timing belt, and has never given me any problems whatsoever. An expat car hire guy recommended that if I wanted a basic 2 door manual truck then I would get a good deal at the auctions; I took my time, three visits to the auction, to check out how it all worked, and when I saw my truck and I set a limit and I got it. Got all the paperwork too including the radio manual and as I say it's been plain sailing ever since.

I would have no hesitation buying at an auction again.

Crossed my mind too, buying at an auction; saw it once on Thai television. My gf said too tricky; you prove otherwise. Can you give an estimate (in %)how much you saved buying at an auction compared to the "regular"

market? Were you confronted with fierce commercial competition from 2nd hand car dealers? Do they only sell cars or motorcycles too? Was this an auction done by a specialized company or by the government? Appreciate if you can give some more info, thx!

Three years ago yes a long time but a friend wanted to buy a second had car spent several week's looking with him. What did we find most had done about 40k something KM seat's buggered lose steering different tyres all the tell tale sign's and not ONE had a service history. In the end he got a new one on H/P. Most Thai's don't service unless they have to.

as already stated, I agree. Spoke to many Thai neighbors&friends; their attitude(maybe not restricted to cars

but equipment in general)if it's still working why "fix" it

Very easy to fix the odometer and according to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration it costs Americans US10 billion each year. Many people don't realize this includes digital odometer fraud.

http://www.uobd2.com/wholesale/tacho-pro-2008-july-plus-universal-dash-programmer-unlock.html

Stunning figure and the cost of equipment needed to fix the mileage as shown in your thread, is frighteningly low...

Anyone has rain-gear that can "breath"(like gore-tex, but with a LOS price-tag?

Drove a Honda Click 125 CC for holiday about one month and quite new; besides the brake and tyre issues already mentioned

noticed the frame at speeds 90 km/h up wrenches and makes it even more unstable

First to state it clearly I am NOT a doctor; but as you mentioned the mentalismuscle please Google if

this nerve could be affected too:

TRIGEMINAL NERVE

shame, i just was extremely interested in the bike next to it..........

All TV members who contributed to this topic: Thanks!

Come to the conclusion:

2nd hand cars are badly overpriced in LOS

as there are no MOT's or technical comparable; don't have that reference-point either

paperwork/green book, odometers can be fiddled with

as in almost every country cars can be welded together, or have invisible defects

contrary reports about Thai's sticking to maintenance schedule's

no-brainer: with a financed car your pay more, but it spreads evenly during a fixed period

car's history in general maybe more "clouded" in LOS than in western countries

I will search for a relatively young used car, but sold from a known owner.

As I just bought a motorcycle(from a trusted friend btw), waiting a bit to restock on personal finance

can't hurt either.

If waiting for a trusted car-seller takes too long, will opt for a new financed car

Drive carefully out-there whatever type of car you're on the road with!!!!

On the other hand I heard Thai's are not very keen on maintenance schedules

maybe on 10+ years old cars, all the Thais I know stick to service times, even the cars that are serviced every 5,000 km..

and you're never 100% sure if and what they fixed odometer

Cannot see the point here, have seen myself, many high km and normal km for year price about the same price......... 2 Pickup, same make, same model and both 2007 year 1x with almost 400,000 km the other with 128,000 km, price was 8,000 baht difference. seen cars the same very little difference..

restored insurance write off botch jobs

Is there such a thing here ? Friend bought a new Mazda BT50 Pro 4 door Automatic last month, last week he stopped a big truck rammed him hard up the rear.... 1st class insurance covers up to 80%, and yes they Insurance are going to repair it, in UK would be a write off and he would have received a new truck + would have had a Rent car in the mean time........

1st class Insurance here is far different than in Europe....... so you buy new and is written off next day you get 80% or somewhere around that if you bought on credit = you lost your 20% deposit and have no transport, or the Insurance fixes your transport covered by your Insurance....

As for cut and shunt, just look at any scrap yard here, many many front ends some back end for sale, so yes must be many cut and shunt here, anyone notice how some trucks appear to crab down the road in front of you..

My Pickup is replaced every 3 years with another new one..... reason is for Business and has around 400,000 km on the clock..... Private car, buy 2nd hand, as many European Luxury cars at 10 years old here, have had 1 owner only and are in perfect condition, many cheaper than a Thai build run of the mill Honda's or Toyota's of the same year..

sure like the car depicted in your avatar; indeed a luxury car my guess is a citroën xm?

Well, I've been looking at older used cars. Quickly, it dawned upon me that they all are wildly overpriced! Check the private sale ads

here and on BahtSold e

They pitch seems to be the "easy financing". Don't pay double FMV (fair market value) just because you can drive off that car @ 6,999 Baht for 7 years.

True, 2nd hand cars are overpriced here and you're never 100% sure if and what they fixed odometer or engine-wise. So you pay too much while remaining a risk, at finance(boy are they keen to sell you on finance)you pay too much too. But at least you drive new out of the showroom with manufacturer's warranty

About 10 years ago i went to a dealer in Pattaya that had a tidy Isuzu Trooper for sale, but when i looked, the speedo had over 300,000Kms !! I mentioned to the agent that it was a nice motor but the Km's was far too high - his answer "i can make it whatever you want"!!, said it with a straight face too as if it was the norm!

So with that experience i have never bought a second hand motor here, the difference in price in buying something new is minimal and at least you know what you are getting.

You guys driving me towards buying new on finance with these msg's

In all honesty it is getting more and more difficult to fiddle the odometer on modern cars.

Gone are the days when you could connect the black and decker drill to the speedo cable and lock the trigger until you got the selected milage you wanted.

I don't doubt that today ways exist to 'fiddle' the figures but with so many 1 year old and 2 old cars on the market it's probably not worth the trouble to do it.

What you think about replacing the odo meters with ones bought frome a scrap yard.

The good old days for the second hand car dealer are gone!

Even if you got a computer millege adjustment to a newer model the dealer would still have manufacture a comprehensive checkable service history with corresponding bills.

Not impossible when there is a 100,000bht at stake.

Tbh you are better buying new on finance from a reputable dealer, if you don't want to stump up a load of cash.

CCC

Not impossible when there is a 100,000bht at stake.

Had a few times when I showed interest in a particular car, asking about the service-book: "Not at hand Sir, still at main-office"

Not all cars in BKK drive a lot of KM. Im driving 5-700km a Month

Traffic!!!

That's a good point - think of the "running hours" versus the actual odometer reading. Probably find the engine in a car that's done 100,000klm in the provinces is in the same condition as one that's done 10,000 in BKK.

Another important factor that's impossible to determine is the time engine has spent with the rev counter on the end stop.

Stuck in many traffic jams while visiting the dealers have to admit there's a lot of wear and tear driving a car in BKK

£2000 for a DP3, just plug in and bt1000 per reset, start a business in Thailand by helping people change their vehicle's mileage.

There is no known law in Thailand that forbid a car owner from adjusting his odometer reading, Only in the UK, it becomes illegal if you knowingly sell the vehicle without disclosing the adjustment done to the mileage reading

My knowledge stops at MP3; maybe Thai law does'nt forbid it but if word gets around you do some Odometer cleaning businesslike; would

not sleep well on my pillow thinking about revengeful customers&easy access to guns in LOS

I know for a fact odometers are tampered with,when you see a second hand car with very low mileage it is almost certain they have been manipulated.One way to check is ask for the service book in which the dealer writes down when the service is done and that is almost certainly up to date until the warranty runs out.Another way is to look for the sticker they put on when they change the timing belt,not all cars but that is how i find out on my truck.

A vehicle can look almost new even when it is almost ten years old so you really have to look it over well.My truck is now ten years old and i found proof under the hood that the belt was replaced but i still bought it and it has been a very reliable vehicle so far.

Why they do it?Probably to get more money out of the deal and make the car look less used.

Did'nt know about the timing belt thing, thx. On the other hand I heard Thai's are not very keen on maintenance schedules; and rather wait till

some parts are defect; "Why spend money on a car when it still runs perfectly"

not all low mileage motors have been messed with , i bought the mrs a new car a few

xmas,s ago , she had to have 1 could,nt live without , its now 2.5 years old mileage ...

.... 2009 km ..... any1 want to buy an almost new motor .

not all low mileage motors have been messed with , i bought the mrs a new car a few

xmas,s ago , she had to have 1 could,nt live without , its now 2.5 years old mileage ...

.... 2009 km ..... any1 want to buy an almost new motor .

you sure got me tempted