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Thanks Beardog&Commande for this useful information; anyone else who has similar experiences or even(almost scared to ask)can recommend a shop/dealer

for sales or maintenance either BKK or P.)

Honestly for Kawasaki the best place in my opinion is the main dealer in BKK although they didn't have anything Super Sport in stock, it's by order only. Honda Big Wing in Pattaya compared to Kawasaki Pattaya is night and day difference in customer service even though interestingly they are both owned by Miyton Group, Honda right now is spectacular. Ducatti in Pattaya, also limited to no real supply of Super Sports although they have some nice bikes ready to purchase and I have heard that they are competent at basic maintenance, anything serious though and the bike has to go to BKK, probably true of all big bikes though.

Honda Big Wing in Pattaya has just about every model Super Sport bike from 600cc to 1000cc in stock sitting on the show room floor including a Gold Wing that many come in and drool over, especially the Thai's. All this being said, lot of really nice bikes on the market even in Thailand although you have to order them, not many in stock because they cost so much and the sales are so small that they just don't keep them sitting around generally, (exception being the dealers that sell big bikes that are ordered in Grey Market from overseas and have no Green Book, advise you stay away from those) keep this in mind for maintenance to because they probably don't stock the parts for them either so you need anything major you will be waiting a month and or need to plan; took Kawasaki in BKK 40 days to get me a new oxygen sensor for my Versys last year but it was covered under warrantee, luckily the bike still ran even though the engine light stayed on all the time and fuel economy was almost cut in half. Honda I think is different right now because they just opened big bike sales in Thailand so they have stock and want to show their bikes off, there is also a big push for mandatory training for all technicians that work on the bikes that they sell not to say that other dealers don't do the same thing I just think Honda right now is really watching things since this is the beginning for them.

Personally you have the cash and want to spend it get anything you want and enjoy. I have come to realize being in Thailand for many years that it's best to get something that is supported in your area or close and people can work on without me being down and out for 2 months. Kawasaki is great, they have been selling big bikes for a long time here, definitely nothing wrong with a Ninja ZX 10R or even a Ninja ZX 6R, Honda looks pretty good to at this point to and if you wanted something that day you could probably part with your cash and get it with no wait, Ducati excellent machine but damn expensive and limited support unless your in BKK also a HUGE potential for theft because it is THE BIKE Thai's want - it is a status symbol to them reserved for the elite and want to be elite. I know your looking for Yamaha, that is strictly going to be BKK and you will most likely have to order what you want, be ready for sticker shock though and a 30-90 day wait on delivery, you can purchase a new car for what these super sport bikes sell for here in Thailand, they are not cheap by any imagination.

On that note, any Super Sport bike is a mark here, most can't afford them, they are easy to carry off and believe me unless you secure that bike INSIDE a house and chain it up it will be stolen one day; these bikes are not meant to be parked at your condo outside. The guys that rent the big bikes here in Pattaya have a guard watching them 24 hours, they actually want tourist to rent them and they get stolen so they can charge them huge money because there is no theft insurance covering them, especially rental insurance. Imagine you being a tourist and being hit with a 500k+ Baht charge for theft of a big bike. It happens, I have seen it, it's not pretty, most can't pay it and then it gets real nasty.

Wish I could give you the shop names but I don't know them, I only know where the shops are by driving to them. Good luck and let us know what you get. Tried to stay on topic here just wanted to add a little more for your information.

Thanks Beardog&Commande for this useful information; anyone else who has similar experiences or even(almost scared to ask)can recommend a shop/dealer

for sales or maintenance either BKK or P.)

Honestly for Kawasaki the best place in my opinion is the main dealer in BKK although they didn't have anything Super Sport in stock, it's by order only. Honda Big Wing in Pattaya compared to Kawasaki Pattaya is night and day difference in customer service even though interestingly they are both owned by Miyton Group, Honda right now is spectacular. Ducatti in Pattaya, also limited to no real supply of Super Sports although they have some nice bikes ready to purchase and I have heard that they are competent at basic maintenance, anything serious though and the bike has to go to BKK, probably true of all big bikes though.

Honda Big Wing in Pattaya has just about every model Super Sport bike from 600cc to 1000cc in stock sitting on the show room floor including a Gold Wing that many come in and drool over, especially the Thai's. All this being said, lot of really nice bikes on the market even in Thailand although you have to order them, not many in stock because they cost so much and the sales are so small that they just don't keep them sitting around generally, (exception being the dealers that sell big bikes that are ordered in Grey Market from overseas and have no Green Book, advise you stay away from those) keep this in mind for maintenance to because they probably don't stock the parts for them either so you need anything major you will be waiting a month and or need to plan; took Kawasaki in BKK 40 days to get me a new oxygen sensor for my Versys last year but it was covered under warrantee, luckily the bike still ran even though the engine light stayed on all the time and fuel economy was almost cut in half. Honda I think is different right now because they just opened big bike sales in Thailand so they have stock and want to show their bikes off, there is also a big push for mandatory training for all technicians that work on the bikes that they sell not to say that other dealers don't do the same thing I just think Honda right now is really watching things since this is the beginning for them.

Personally you have the cash and want to spend it get anything you want and enjoy. I have come to realize being in Thailand for many years that it's best to get something that is supported in your area or close and people can work on without me being down and out for 2 months. Kawasaki is great, they have been selling big bikes for a long time here, definitely nothing wrong with a Ninja ZX 10R or even a Ninja ZX 6R, Honda looks pretty good to at this point to and if you wanted something that day you could probably part with your cash and get it with no wait, Ducati excellent machine but damn expensive and limited support unless your in BKK also a HUGE potential for theft because it is THE BIKE Thai's want - it is a status symbol to them reserved for the elite and want to be elite. I know your looking for Yamaha, that is strictly going to be BKK and you will most likely have to order what you want, be ready for sticker shock though and a 30-90 day wait on delivery, you can purchase a new car for what these super sport bikes sell for here in Thailand, they are not cheap by any imagination.

On that note, any Super Sport bike is a mark here, most can't afford them, they are easy to carry off and believe me unless you secure that bike INSIDE a house and chain it up it will be stolen one day; these bikes are not meant to be parked at your condo outside. The guys that rent the big bikes here in Pattaya have a guard watching them 24 hours, they actually want tourist to rent them and they get stolen so they can charge them huge money because there is no theft insurance covering them, especially rental insurance. Imagine you being a tourist and being hit with a 500k+ Baht charge for theft of a big bike. It happens, I have seen it, it's not pretty, most can't pay it and then it gets real nasty.

Wish I could give you the shop names but I don't know them, I only know where the shops are by driving to them. Good luck and let us know what you get. Tried to stay on topic here just wanted to add a little more for your information.

Heard from many people spare-parts are a pain in the #ss; hard to come by, as you stated long waiting times for delivery/supply and

way to expensive too. Will stay away from grey-importers who can't provide the green-book and have to cut much bureaucratic red-tape

myself.

Visited Honda Big Wing in Bang Na(as earlier mentioned)and could "peek" into the service and maintenance department. Looked

professional with regards to equipment and you didn't stumble over parts on the floor neither you need to be cautioned about slippery-danger

due to oil-spillage etc. Of course this isn't a guarantee all mechanics there are qualified; but first impressions were good.

Saw a Honda-motorcycle shop(granted for the 110/125 cc bikes)which showed certificates of "Honda licensed and trained" mechanics;

maybe this applies(never give up hope)now or in the future also to the big bike division. Small step for Honda, but a giant leap for

Thailand

Agree totally that Ducati is an excellent machine, but with a hefty price tag and impressive formula sporting design. I'm more up for a cruiser

/chopper like Yamaha Dragstar/MidnightStar; still you can indeed buy a new middle class car instead.

Yamaha big bike dealer in at Suthisan MRT station on Ratchada road. If u coming from rama9 its on your left. Paddock shops arent too far either

Thx for the info; can combine a visit then to both Paddock and Yamaha in one day

There is a Yamaha big bike shop on Sukimvette in Pattaya. Right next to the true value store Soi Khao Talo. They have a bunch of little bikes outside & a small amount of show bikes (imported) for order. I think its name is Yamaha watersports. they also sell jet ski's & such. I found the staff to be kinda rude & not to knowledgeable at all about their product. Kawasaki is much easier to deal with instead of duh I dunno can write them & find out in about 3 weeks. they walked me on a chance of a sale on a 600 or larger. I bought Kawasaki instead. They were able to answer basic questions. Good luck. If their service shop is as poor as the sales that will be one hella bike to get repairs done on. Pattaya is nor renound for big bike repairs. You have to beg them to adjust your valves & bring them the guages to check the clearances on the valves.

Agree with this, Yamaha Watersports in Pattaya is not the best place. They can get you any Yamaha big bike you want but don't have any new ones sitting on the floor, at least when I last visited, they did have used ones of nice condition. Staff know little about the bikes and even less about maintaining them. Best Big Bikes to purchase in Pattaya area are Kawasaki, Honda, and Ducati - they actually have show rooms and a repair / maintenance center for them here locally. You want to get a Yamaha R1 repaired as an example most likely you would have to take the bike to Bangkok for any competence.

Keep in mind that warrantgy issues with Honda or Kawasaki will most likely also be dealt outside of Pattaya, as the Pattaya dealer is known not to honor warranty's.

There is a topic in the Pattaya forum regarding this issue, though it concerns small bikes, it is the same dealer.

Well now I know where to find the Yamaha Bikes in Pattaya, but the experiences of Beardog and Commande shine(at least to me)a new light on the issue:

normally you do a survey about the bike you want and then visit some dealers to bargain the best price;. From what I learn now is that your choice of bike(&brand) is limited to finding a local dealer who at least can give a minimum on maintenance. Bringing your own gauges to them to adjust the valves; that takes the cake!

Originally wanted to buy a cruiser/chopper like the Yamaha Midnight Star, which will not be in the official supply-list from Yamaha Thailand. Thinking of using

a grey-importer after other members' experience with regular dealers could only lead to nightmare I suppose....

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I've always been advised to stake out your land boundary clearly. Fence it preferably. That goes for any country. I think Thailand it is 10years of proved use and then squatters have rights to take over. If you let someone use or have access over land you should make contracts even if a peppercorn rent so as to avoid any future problems.

I've always been advised to stake out your land boundary clearly. Fence it preferably. That goes for any country. I think Thailand it is 10years of proved use and then squatters have rights to take over. If you let someone use or have access over land you should make contracts even if a peppercorn rent so as to avoid any future problems.

I've always been advised to stake out your land boundary clearly. Fence it preferably. That goes for any country. I think Thailand it is 10years of proved use and then squatters have rights to take over. If you let someone use or have access over land you should make contracts even if a peppercorn rent so as to avoid any future problems.

Agree with itchbum and mccw; many countries over the whole world know about this custom; dates back from settlers-times. I origin from

the Netherlands; generally not known for a lack of rules, laws and regulations:)) Even there a plot of land that has undefined or unclear ownership can be claimed indeed after ten years by "fencing" it in even with simple sticks and some wire or rope(hope you understand what i mean, English not being my native language). As manager for the local government I was confronted with this kind of "annexation" by

civil inhabitants who claimed marginal plots of public owned "green"; which had neglected maintenance due to budget-cuts. Of course

this can not be mirrored 1:1 to Thailand, but as I said before I have seen plots of land being "flagged" and Thai friends tell me this too.

Is there not a rule that if you don't do something with your land for over a year and someone does something they can claim ownership (other than Chanord)?

Yep, not sure about the one-year-term; but the rule exists. Family of my GF were confronted with this rule and lost a plot of land to

their "friendly neighbors"

There is a Yamaha big bike shop on Sukimvette in Pattaya. Right next to the true value store Soi Khao Talo. They have a bunch of little bikes outside & a small amount of show bikes (imported) for order. I think its name is Yamaha watersports. they also sell jet ski's & such. I found the staff to be kinda rude & not to knowledgeable at all about their product. Kawasaki is much easier to deal with instead of duh I dunno can write them & find out in about 3 weeks. they walked me on a chance of a sale on a 600 or larger. I bought Kawasaki instead. They were able to answer basic questions. Good luck. If their service shop is as poor as the sales that will be one hella bike to get repairs done on. Pattaya is nor renound for big bike repairs. You have to beg them to adjust your valves & bring them the guages to check the clearances on the valves.

Agree with this, Yamaha Watersports in Pattaya is not the best place. They can get you any Yamaha big bike you want but don't have any new ones sitting on the floor, at least when I last visited, they did have used ones of nice condition. Staff know little about the bikes and even less about maintaining them. Best Big Bikes to purchase in Pattaya area are Kawasaki, Honda, and Ducati - they actually have show rooms and a repair / maintenance center for them here locally. You want to get a Yamaha R1 repaired as an example most likely you would have to take the bike to Bangkok for any competence.

Thanks Beardog&Commande for this useful information; anyone else who has similar experiences or even(almost scared to ask)can recommend a shop/dealer

for sales or maintenance either BKK or P.)

Took me all but 3 seconds, I have a slow internet connection you know.

http://www.yamaha-motor.co.th/

All in Thai but it shows the big bikes as well and a call center number. If you're lucky they might speak a few words Engrish.

By the way, I think they are located near Fortune tower in Bangkok.

Took me all but 3 seconds, I have a slow internet connection you know.

http://www.yamaha-motor.co.th/

All in Thai but it shows the big bikes as well and a call center number. If you're lucky they might speak a few words Engrish.

By the way, I think they are located near Fortune tower in Bangkok.

Took me all but 3 seconds, I have a slow internet connection you know.

http://www.yamaha-motor.co.th/

All in Thai but it shows the big bikes as well and a call center number. If you're lucky they might speak a few words Engrish.

By the way, I think they are located near Fortune tower in Bangkok.

Sometimes it's difficult to derive the essence of a post(brain-connections can take longer than 3 sec); states clearly found this site myself as well that it's in Thai language.

Oh well, we live all under the same sky but the horizon's differ individually

Thanks anyway

Of Course can call

I want to buy a new motorcycle in the BIG bike division(say 900 ccm up); I did a survey and managed to find

and visit dealers which sell bikes in that categorie.(Like Honda Big Wing in Bang Na).

Till now managed to locate dealers from Honda, Kawasaki, Harley.

As for me I very much like to check out what models of YAMAHA Big Bikes are officially sold in Thailand.

Googeling on internet Yamaha with sub-phrases oddly enough results in a continous referral to the main(?) web-site for

Yamaha; showing me the 110/125 ccm Bikes and it ownly available in Thai lang.

Would appreciate support/info's/adresses from members/bike enthusiasts about Yamaha BIG bike dealers

in Bangkok and/or Pattaya.

Thanks in advance!!!

the plastic used for water tanks(and many other products)contains chemicals to prevent the plastic from

cracking under the influence of uv radiation(and also prevailing temps in Thailand). these "softeners"(don't know the genuine definition in English, as it's not my native language sorry)gradually "evaporate" out of the plastic and into the water.

Of course this process can be delayed by putting the tank under a roof etc; but you can't avoid

that these chemicals mix with the water. One can argue that there is a big dilution and nobody gonna die from'this instantly of course. But long term effects on health are evident and can be found on internet.

Stainless tanks that's a no brainer are substantial more expensive, but don't have this disadvantage and

last a lifetime.

Make the calculation: durability and no health hazards versus pricetag, limited lifetime and possible

health hazards.

Great first post

Thanks, encourage me to post more often

On a motorcycle tour the other day just outside of hua-hin saw at a few roads many plots of land litteraly being flagged

with bamboo sticks holding on one side of the land a red and on the other a yellow flag.

All these plots looked "low-maintenance" as stated in the post. As I was curious about the flag-thing asked some

Thai people I know and who speak quite reasonable English(perhaps better than me lol); they informed me that

"bewildered" plots of land which seemingly have not be claimed or belong to someone can indeed be "flagged"

after a certain period of time as to formerly establish ownership.

A short visit to a professional lawyer should clear things up quickly and being large interest at stake, advisable

as for dog complaints, people in my soi have sucessfully remove aggressive pests in the past by contacting city hall too, the procedure is quite funny, they asks for picture of the offending animal and came in one day, only picking up the one dog we said was biting random people, leaving other dogs in peace. It was like a mob hit.

If they do turn up to the restaurant the owner could claim ownership of the dog.... does it have collar?

"Does anyone have any bright ideas as to what my friend should do now (if anything)?"

If you're talking about compensation for the medical treatment, that would seem to be a civil matter, which presumably would mean hiring a lawyer ... probably costing more than the treatment cost.

If you're talking about seeking retribution, it sounds like the hassle for you is going to be greater than the satisfaction gained from pi__ing off the restaurant owner, assuming he feels any great attachment to the dog to begin with. Once your friend takes the photo of the dog (as outlined above) and presents his case to the appropriate authorities, they may be reluctant to swing into action if he's the sole complainant and/or there are no witnesses willing to come forward to identify the particular dog.

If you mean how can your friend avoid getting bitten again. Surely he could locate a relatively dog-free restaurant. Since you seem to be familiar with the dog's daily routine, including his visits to the kitchen, and his history as a biter, why would you/he want to eat there in the first place? Possibly there's more to the story than we are being told ... aside from the prospect of dog hair in the ??

as for dog complaints, people in my soi have sucessfully remove aggressive pests in the past by contacting city hall too, the procedure is quite funny, they asks for picture of the offending animal and came in one day, only picking up the one dog we said was biting random people, leaving other dogs in peace. It was like a mob hit.

If they do turn up to the restaurant the owner could claim ownership of the dog.... does it have collar?

"Does anyone have any bright ideas as to what my friend should do now (if anything)?"

If you're talking about compensation for the medical treatment, that would seem to be a civil matter, which presumably would mean hiring a lawyer ... probably costing more than the treatment cost.

If you're talking about seeking retribution, it sounds like the hassle for you is going to be greater than the satisfaction gained from pi__ing off the restaurant owner, assuming he feels any great attachment to the dog to begin with. Once your friend takes the photo of the dog (as outlined above) and presents his case to the appropriate authorities, they may be reluctant to swing into action if he's the sole complainant and/or there are no witnesses willing to come forward to identify the particular dog.

If you mean how can your friend avoid getting bitten again. Surely he could locate a relatively dog-free restaurant. Since you seem to be familiar with the dog's daily routine, including his visits to the kitchen, and his history as a biter, why would you/he want to eat there in the first place? Possibly there's more to the story than we are being told ... aside from the prospect of dog hair in the ??

surely support the analysis as described in the last sentence