HoudiniXLogic

On 10/31/2019 at 3:18 AM, nakluapattaya said:

@HoudiniXLogic Nice read, 8 in 2hrs is still a good catch! I had yet to catch 8 in 2hrs with 1 rod.

The shrimps seem to feel excitement haha, those grannies are calm so they will bite more i guess ????

 

They bite really slow, the small ones are the hardest to catch. The big ones will begin to slowly let the bait enter their mouth, and will then agressively jerk on your rod. A barbhook is a musthave for us. But pros can get by with a regular hook.

Pretty much. Now lots of tackle makers sell those 7-hooks. The shrimp fishing is really more of a subculture within the Thai fishing community, I’ve talked to other fishermen and most of them consider it to be quite hard (actually its because they end up being the noob at the shrimp pond while theyre usually champs at fishing parks, its not “losing face” but rather they have to start all the way from the bottom and build up their “face value” reputation all over again). 

I’ve fished the Bang pakong river for them with a guide before. Its a totally different game to fishing normally. First and only time I did it I kept setting the hook and losing the prawns, but by the end of the day I had understood the gist of it enough to catch a few myself. You gotta let the prawn grab the bait and put it into their mouths. 

However I spend a few evenings at the prawn pond by Ladprao-Wanghin 78. Its a nice place to drink beers and fish for prawns. Theres a group of Thai grandmas that like to go there and they seem to be masters at it. On a good day I might catch 8 in the 2hrs that I’m there, but those grandmas spend an hour there and haul up around 15 to 20. 

VIP fishing park is better IMO.

On 6/19/2019 at 10:36 AM, robblok said:

All my gear is more for bait fishing then predator fishing. 

Ah ok. Have you been to the Beung Tepa fishing park near the Pathum Thani immigration? 

Whatever they do hopefully they dont revive the Dyna as one of those small chinese bikes 

2 minutes ago, robblok said:

I agree with you about the bungsamran VS Jurassic 

 

'The VIP Fishingpark i dont know much about never been there. 

You should definitely try it out. Lures only though (any kind). I had not done much lure fishing since I was a kid (except for light vertical jigging) and my wrist was pretty sore by the end of the day. 

On 1/27/2019 at 6:08 PM, robblok said:

You cannot compare Jurassic with Bungsamran, the venue is 10 times nicer and far more species. I must admit that in general you might catch more in Bungsamran. But I would go to Jurassic every time over Bungsamran. Probably because i done bungsamran so many times already and it kinda gets boring that there is only 1 way to fish that works.

Wont argue with you there. I just feel that BSR is better as a side-activity whereas Jurassic takes more of a dedicated fisherman. 

Although personally, the best fishing park for me is VIP fishing park over by Bang Khun Tien. Basically pond-reared queensland groupers, grey snappers, barramundi, and sometimes cobia. Depending on the package you can take home or release (if just fishing for fun). 

I have like 4-5 reels that I use for Bungsamran, depending on the conditions and which part of the park Im fishing from: Private Bungalow or Community Pier. 

If I’m fishing from the private bungalow, i use the reel (Penn Fathom 30 Lever Drag) with 60lb braid and 10m topshot of 90lb mono. Keep in mind that a lot of times, the fish will bring the fight straight down under the pier, and this is where the 90lb braid really comes into play. The chances of you and another fisherman getting tangled up is less when fishing from a private bungalow, but it does happen unfortunately. 

When fishing from the community pier, I use 80lb braid backing and fill the rest up with 60lb mono on a Penn  Torque 25N. I fill the braid up to the first line then after that its all mono. Never been spooled yet, and most of the time the braid doesnt show at all. Its better to use a lot of mono in the community pier since it makes the innevitable tangles easier to untangle. 

On 11/26/2018 at 1:10 AM, gonefish said:

hi tim.

i am on the andaman coast. the fishing is still good here.where are you in thailand ?

Ah you lucky son of a gun you’re living it up and fishing it up on the andaman coast with the Tunas, Trevallys, Dolphins, Wahoos, while most of the rest of us are stuck here in <deleted> overfished gulf of thailand where theres only red seabream and, if you’re lucky, maybe some king mackerel, cobia, and barracuda 

Im not a moderator or anything but to be on the safe side, better to post it in the classifieds section and just post the link to there on here. 

You can try 7seas proshop. They have some in-house gard cases for rods. 

Google maps is your friend here. 

1 hour ago, robblok said:

To be honest I believe it does count but you would have to ask about it. I know they accept driving licenses. 

 

Jut curious where do you live in BKK and if you are ever interested we could fish bung Pla bug together.

Work permit will work just fine. 

Noomfish456 

https://www.facebook.com/Noomfish456/

basically a cheaper version of Bung Samran and they charge Thais and Foreigners the same (250 baht per rod). As far as I know, theres the usual Striped and Mekong catfish, Redtail Catfish, a bunch of carp (even koi) but I dont think they have Alligator Gar or Arapaima there. A much lower chance of breaking your rods. 

Bung Maruay 

https://m.facebook.com/บ่อตกปลาบึงขวางฟิชชิ่งปาร์ค-426124917408600/

A fishing park that mainly caters to Thai people and isnt too expensive, but you might have some communication problems. 

Bung Tepa aka J Ang Fishing Park 

https://m.facebook.com/J.eng.Fishingpark/

Basically they specialise in the Chao Phraya Giant Catfish (Pla Tepa). You can use deadbait there. 

Fish at the rocks by the skatepark. 

Also the theft you should be more worried aboutis  your car/motorbike being broken into/stolen rather than someone attacking you while youre fishing. 

Ummm I hate to burst your bubble but Bungsamran, even at the farang price, is still cheaper than Jurassic or Gillhams. There are also differences with bait methods and presentation although neither place allows you to bring outside bait (you must buy the bait at the venue). 

Jurassic doesnt allow outsiders to bring their own rods and rigs without prior permission, but at Bungsamran you can bring almost any rig you want as long as youre targeting Catfish and Carp species (predatory species are a different story there). The Arapaima arent included in the initial price at BSR, thats a 20,000 baht story right there. 

I think Jurassic alligns itself with some UK Carp fishing association or something like that

Go to Kanchanaburi and fish the reserviors for Snakeheads and Hampala Barb. If youre lucky you might catch a Giant featherback. 

Nan river in phitsanulok for Goonch species catfish (Bagarius species)  

Even in fishing parks, if theyre not uptight with rules and let you fish whatever rig or bait, go cover the weedy areas by the side with your lure (some kind of imitation frog) and youll get snakeheads. 

5 hours ago, 55Jay said:

Ha ha, that's great!   I fished a large reservoir there once.  Other than 1 fish early morning having a go at my Roostertail, nada. 

 

Otherwise, we put kayaks in a few miles upstream from town (but not as far as the dam).  I drag a small Rapalla off the back of the Yak and maneuver in the deeper runs parallel overhanging bushes/trees, and had a few JP tear it up.

 

After I commented on this thread the other day, motivated me to get off my ass and visit a small, somewhat hidden pond near the house again.  Crawdad Roostertail worked well in the past, but they went for the Rapalla this time - really little guys though, 4 to 6 inches, attacking a 1.5" lure.  LOL.  

 

This pond does my head in.  Ringed with cattails, it screams Largemouth Bass territory like my former freshwater lakes in California.  Nice spot at dusk.

 

Lovely lake!! My moms compound in Rangsit has a lake there thats stocked with a bunch of aquarium dumps from the tenants in the mooban. When I was younger, all the guards were cool with me fishing in front of the “no fishing” sign. Once I was around 16 they werent ok with it anymore....a new head guard came and tried to take my rod (which I refused) and that was the end of that. 

TBH I never fell in love with LM Bass fishing....probably because I found the beauty in trout fishing first. I cant see a stream without thinking about fishing in Colorado. 

On 8/16/2018 at 4:02 PM, 55Jay said:

My Grandfather started me out on a Zebco closed-face "coffee grinder", then spinning reels.  I got into bait casters in my early teens when I hung around/fished with guys who were into tournament Bass fishing - my dream reel was an ABU Garcia.  One of the adult Bass fishing guys finally took pity and gave me one of his older Shimanos, which I still have. 

 

I began working as a deckhand on sport fishing boats in Jr. High School, that's where I learned to handle conventionals, and then the really big gear for the 2-day Rock Cod trips in the wintertime.    After a lot of practice, I could heave an iron as well as fly line a fat sardine into the kelp beds with a Penn Squidder.   That was a long time ago though, lol.

 

All my gear is here in Thailand but I don't fish much (up country), don't like the parks, and nobody in my social circle likes to fish.   I have had some enjoyable times over in Kanchanaburi though, I really like light spinning gear with small Rapallas and Rooster Tails for Jungle Perch/Hampla Barb.

Lol for better or for worse, you really remind me of my dad with your last paragraph (RIP to my old man). He really loved to go fishing in Kanchannaburi (Purposely misspelled. I always associate Kanchanaburi with Snakeheads aka scientific name Channa). 

I still remember going on a boat in the Srinakarin reservoir. Nobody caught anything that day, not even the guides. On the cruise back to the resort, my dad asked them to drive the boat slower and he trolled two spoons behind the boat (dont know how far I just remember that it was almost half a spool of the Penn 210 in the water). All the guides kept saying “mai dai alai lokk”(you’re not gonna catch anything), but they werent gonna say no to a 200 baht tip from a farang fisherman. 

Anyways about 10 minutes in and the reel screamed. He fought and pulled in a HUGE Hampala Barb weighing at 7 kilos (weighed it), and another one which was almost 5 kilos. The guides were in disbelief. Whole way back they were talking about how they gotta try trolling lures. 

I almost always prefer to use conventional reels at Bungsamran when fishing for the Pla Beuks. I just prefer it more and dont really mind dealing with the occasional birds nest, but as I get more used to the reel it happens less and less. Recently I got the FC Monster Mariner IV and that rod is way more suited for new BSR than the first 3 Mariners (all of them were 5’ while the new one is 5’6”) and casts further, I have the III and IV and tested it side by side.  (they designed this rod specifically for this pond). The spiral guides are a nice bonus.  The reel I use is a Penn Fathom 30 Lever Drag 2 Speed with 80lb mono backing, 50lb braid mainline, and 7-8 meters of 60lb mono top shot (the mono after the float helps sink the braid). 

I recently got a spinning set up to use with my girlfriend. FC monster H20 with a Penn Slammer III reel. She already knows how to fish so thats awesome, she just wont bother learning to use an overhead reel. She prefers sea fishing from a boat and the shrimp pond fishing with ultra-light Chinglew-style tackle, but recently shes  expressed interest in trying out BSR properly. Had also been thinking of a good spinning setup but havent found a reason to pull the trigger until this. 

Oh and how the Thais afford those high end Accurate reels? Credit Card debt and they sell it off to pay off the debt when they cant afford to finance it anymore...and end up getting a much cheaper and durable reel... or stop completely when the wife considers it too “bhaab”. 

On 8/3/2018 at 1:51 PM, possum1931 said:

It is a pond on the outskirts of my village, I never see anyone fishing there, though it is regular to see

fish jumping, and also dead fish.

If theres noone fishing there then it might be a no fishing pond on private property. The owner is probably a very religious Buddhist person (not gonna get into that). 

But as Jack above said, its unlikely to be Krasoob/Hampala Barb as isolated ponds cant support that, so the best possibility is probably snakeheads. 

probably too late but

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814 ถนนรังสิต-นครนายก ตำบลประชาธิปัตย์ Amphoe Thanyaburi, Chang Wat Pathum Thani 12130
082 009 3039
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Here is a place for Chao Phraya Giant Catfish aka Bung Tepa (prounounced Tay-Pahh) 

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บ่อตกปลาเจ๊เอ็ง 65/2 หมู่1 สามโคก Chang Wat Pathum Thani 12160
089 687 3113
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i was JUST told about it by a Thai fishing buddy.

Well.... you can say that I was fishing before I was born.... I was shown an old photo of my mom pregnant with me and handlining for seabream or small mackarel. I remember being around lots of tackle as a kid, I guess I was around 5 or 6 when I was actually starting fishing. Fished almost every weekend with my dad, at least twice a month regardless of weather, did that until my dad passed away when I was 15. After he passed away, I didnt get to go out fishing much, and after I turned 18 I barely touched a rod... aside from school and working, my free time was doing pretty much what other 18 to 25 year olds are doing - partying and chasing girls.... so in a sense I never stopped fishing, just changed from getting fish to getting girls. Even though at that time I wasnt an avid angler, I always had a rod and reel plus a tackle box close by. But I was mountain biking and skateboarding a lot, and didnt have a car, but probably once a year my friends would want a Bungsamran trip and I was pretty much the guy who had the tackle for it (FC Monster Mariner rod with my dads old Penn 210 reel loaded with 50 lb mono)... I updated my rods but I was too attached to that reel. 

Until earlier this year I finally purchased my first car, and for the last 6 months I have been going out fishing almost every weekend (and also spending an ungodly ammount on fishing gear also). Ive also now started to work and maintain my own gear, which thanks to building my own mountain bike wheels Ive somehow acquired the patience to properly dissassemble and reassemble a fishing reel. 

Even during the “hiatus”, if I saw a body of water, the first thing I always thought of was fishing there. 

In summary, basically fished from 5-15, stopped from 15 till 30 except for sparse trips, now 30 with a car and fully back into it. 

11 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

You have a google map link?

No negative guys on this thread, quite peaceful, bit like fishing

Nong Pla Lhai
Pluak Daeng District, Rayong 21140
https://goo.gl/maps/mKcdnJ4Ak8C2

Dok Krai
Rayong
https://goo.gl/maps/VdAXp3N3NeN2

Klong Yai Reservoir
Lahan, Pluak Daeng District, Rayong 21140
https://goo.gl/maps/FH9pNmsFVSD2

อ่างเก็บน้ำห้วยชากนอก
Pattaya City, Bang Lamung District, Chon Buri 20150
https://goo.gl/maps/rKvU1bAiNBn

Here are some places that I found. Check in the photos (on Google Maps) and I see rod set ups and people posing with their catch. 

Oh also you can fish at the Dok Krai reservoir, the local Thais do that. If not then close by theres also Nong Pla Lhai. Those are natural reservoirs near the Pattaya, although its actually in Rayong. 

2 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

2 hours ago, HoudiniXLogic said:

Well you can float fish the irrigation canals (NOT KLONGS). 
 
Usually on the way to BSR theres some good natural spots (but no fisherman stops there because BSR mission). 
 
Theres this one spot 
 
Sunflower Bangkok
Prasert-Manukitch Rd, Khwaeng Lat Phrao, Khet Lat Phrao, Krung Thep Maha Nakhon 10230
https://goo.gl/maps/GEtT8urwPFQ2
 
I see a lot of thai people fishing there using floats and bait, or artificial lures. 

A little bit too far, I'm looking for something around Pattaya. I've passed a couple whilst cycling where i see Thais fishing with multiple rods, i need to check these out next time i pass. The thing that occurred to me is whether Soi dogs are a problem which would ruin the experience

Ah those Thais with a bunch of rods, they’re actually bottom fishing mainly for carp/barb species. Alternating baits between bread, rice husk, and the occasional earthworms if the fishing shop has them in stock. 

It really depends with the soi dogs, but I wouldnt fish near a spot where a local old lady feeds the soi dogs. Although being a dog owner for all of my life I know my way around soi dogs and have faced off more than a few packs, I would not advise anyone to take the risks I do.

also 

“pla gin dee mai?” = fish takin the bait?

”dai gee tua wan nee?” = how many fish you caught today? 

“Ohooo size dee mak” = Good size! 

“Size waan waan” = Tiny fish

”Mee taa size waan waan” = Only tiny fish here 

“Size rub kaek” = Good size to start the day off