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It was Cambodia's responsibility to secure Thailand's cooperation when trying to enlist the site on World Heritage list.

They decided they didn't need it, didn't need to be good neighbours, and went alone, over Thai protests. Now it backfired, they blame Thailand for that, and even accuse it of bullying.

As for them being "in the right" - I don't know anyone who subscribes to their version of the temple being Buddhist, not Hindu. Ok, they got a French expert to back them up, but for the rest of the world the temple is undeniably Hindu.

Even if you let this nonsense about the origins pass, the next step in Cambodian logic, that Hindu part of the heritage is not worth being preserved, is even more outrageous.

Bottom line - Cambodia wants the money from foreign tourists, they can't care less about any cultural heritage, they'll twist and turn it any way they like for the sake of business. And for the sake of preserving the heritage, this attitude has to be stopped.

Abhisit made one of the pre-conditions for elections - people must feel safe to campaign anywhere. What the reds did in Lampang in by-elections was unacceptable.

..no one should think the Chinese care for any others, near as much as they care for themselves. Whenever there's a humanitarian crisis (SE Asia or elsewhere), where are the Chinese? Whenever economic help is needed, where are the Chinese? If a dictator gets too oppressive in a neighboring country, where are the Chinese? The answer to all those questions is: THEY'RE OUT TO LUNCH or THEY'RE NOT THERE TO ASSIST. Indeed, they don't even have organizations to assist others on a large scale. No Red Cross, No World Bank, No Medecins Sans Borders, No Amnesty International. They're out for themselves, period.

That is true, China is not showing any signs of being ready to take care of others problems.

But don't forget that this is not what Asean needs from China. They don't need Red Cross or Medicine Sans Frontiers, much less Amnesty International.

And they WILL support China when it pushes for bigger role in IMF or World Bank, and they ARE trying to build alternative channels for emergency funding in case of economic troubles. Neither IMF nor US made any friends after 1997 crisis in Asean.

http://www.bangkokbank.com/Online+Banking/...rowser+Test.htm

Doesn't work on either Opera, Opera identified as IE, Opera masked as IE...

Doesn't work in Firefox.

Desn't work in IE 8 either.

From their FAQ:

"2. What Internet browser should I use to access Bualuang iBanking?

We recommend Microsoft Internet Explorer version 5.5, which supports.."

How incredibly unprofessional for internet banking!

Nearly every piece printed in Thailand's English language papers is full of wishful thinking, misinformation, Thai government propaganda and downright lies...

I was in Cambodia over the weekend and the general feeling is the Thais will continue to try to bully Cambodia into submission but the Cambodians are adamant they will not back down.

As if there's no such thing as propaganda or nationalism in Cambodia and Hun Sen is some kind of libertarian.

What you are saying is that they are better at brainwashing their population.

Old thread, was just browsing topics here

Bangkok Bank and others not only need your browser to identify itself as IE, but also use ActiveX controls and probably pass that activeX information, like login and session between windows if they have popups there.

There are plugins for Opera that allow you to emulate ActiveX, but they fail on switching between windows.

Bangkok Bank online banking works fine with Firefox and "User Agent Switcher". Using Linux Mint and Firefox 3.0.11.

I guess it depends on what you are doing on the site.

If it relies on ActiveX, than no spoofing/agent switching will work. Even some javascripts won't be executed properly, as IE and Firefox use different standards and need different versions of the code for some tasks.

Toyota included ESC in their next upgrade, about half a year, I think.

I don't know what they have done in Europe, perhaps at first they simply slapped aftermarket ESC on imported pickups.

Honda and Toyota have very different approach to the Thai market

I disagree. Most of the time you can't see any difference between their advertising.

Civic, for example, even in 2l form, was never presented for sportiness or speed. It was "luxury" and gismos, just a bit less than in Accord. Even BP admitted it was geared towards comfort, not racing, when they weren't comparing it to Toyota.

I also don't see any difference between Jazz and Yaris ad campaigns either - both focus on fun, sportiness and youthfulness.

Asean countries might try to get into US good books, but if it doesn't work, they'll just say "<deleted> it, it's easier to do business with Chinese", and the US might kiss good bye to the region.

This statement doesn't make any sense. The US is probably the most open market in the world. The US buying of SE Asian products is what created the economic boom in SE Asia. The Chinese will never let SE Asian products compete fairly against their own. To think that ASEAN nations would forsake the US cash cow for a closed and protectionist Chinese market that directly and adversely competes against them for the US market is naive nonsense.

No one wants to compete with China, they'd rather integrate with it.

Also China is still growing, their internal demand is growing, while the US can't really promise any pick up for Asean exports.

Integration of regional economies with China is an inevitable process, the US can only slow it down at best.

Of course Thailand will continue to export to the US, but the days when it wanted to depend on the US alone are over, they'd rather hitch their wagon to the Chinese now, and with these comes US geopolitical decline as well.

Clinton is walking a tight rope here - she needs cooperation on human rights and democracy, but they only given her the stick, no carrots.

nobody here saw didn't see the live broadcast around 3 - 4 am in the first morning of the military assult on the red-shirts.

There were youtube videos posted here, shot from a window high above Din Daeng intersection. It showed a line of soldiers advancing in formation, reds throwing molotov cocktails and setting some of them on fire. Then a taxi ramming through a line of people, sending some flying several meters back.

Abhisit, for example, wanted Thailand's upgrade on human trafficking scale, and probably on IP protection, too.

But is the US really in a position to put economic pressure on Asean at the moment? Asean countries might try to get into US good books, but if it doesn't work, they'll just say "<deleted> it, it's easier to do business with Chinese", and the US might kiss good bye to the region.

The US influence is on the wane in SEA, Clinton better come up with some fresh ideas if she wants to ride on Obamania here. If she doesn't score some points, Asean will keep paying only lip service to whatever US has to say and keep working for China.

War on terror doesn't interest Asean so much, they are more concerned about global economy, and think if they should put their money on China instead.

They won't even listen to "global warning, labour rights, human trafficking bla bla bla", they perfected the art of sleeping with their eyes open and nodding at the right moments.

I'll wait for the next general elections to see the truth public sentiment.

I doubt they improve on their 2007 performance when they couldn't get overall majority. Now they are politically isolated and I don't think it will change even if they become the biggest party again.

They were given a chance to govern, and they totally screwed it up. Teaming up with Democrats seems like a safer option for smaller parties.

In case they do manage to cobble up a government, they will inevitably start messing with Thaksin, that would lead to political turmoil, and eventually their government will collapse. Again.

PTP has nothing to lose, but all the other parties have been through this routine already. They might try again, but it's not very likely.

Wow Animatic, Plus and Lawngnome, I touched a nerve. My sincerity in Post #13 is spooking you.

I, frankly, don't ***care*** about your "sincerety". You are very low on facts and avoid arguments, so you have nothing to add to the discussion, at least in this thread.

Not interested.

Hondas higher spec, sportyness and style over Toyota gives better sale.

"Higher spec" includes not only gearbox and horsepower but also things like start button, key fob with RF, GPS and all other electronic goodies, and in those areas Toyota has an advantage, I think.

"Better sale" is not the best criterion to judge which car is better. I just read an article about what drives sales (in Europe), and they basically said the main point is emotional attachment and brand image, not technology per se. The differences between, say rear wheel and front wheel drive, don't matter for customers anymore, there's little difference in real life.

In that sense Honda has a "sportiness" image (in Thailand). Whether it's really any sportier is a matter of debate, but for those who bought into this idea, debates don't matter. With enough effort you can "win" any debate if you want to validate your opinion, with enough faith you will always be a winner, at least in your own mind.

That's why I don't give any credit to Bangkok post face-offs and concentrate on what they said about each vehicle and what it means in practical terms, reading "between the lines", so to speak.

Just to let YOU know, there was a long running thread here about this year old test.

One thing I remember is that the euro spec Triton that passed that test was equipped with stability control that is not available here. Also, as mentioned earlier, Vigo had an update here last year, and now it's the only truck with ESC available in Thailand.

It was an article based on the interview with Toyota executive, but I don't remember who mentioned the "back on top" line. Probably it was the reporter.

I'm pretty sure it was for cars only, because if counting with pickups, Honda has never overtook Toyota in the first place.

But let's wait for official numbers (compiled by Toyota and Isuzu, btw).

I've seen some reds recording birthday messages for Thaksin on video, for their TV station, I guess.

It was very emotional and full or references to "prachachons" and "nayoks". It occured to me that they don't seem to realise that there are millions of Thais out there who don't want Thaksin anymore. Those Thais apparently don't exist in the red minds. According to all signs those people also outnumber Thaksin loyalists. But, as with every revolution, opposing views don't matter and don't count, they are a distraction from a fight for "democracy".

Not quite, Thaksin is their real leader, he just can't find anyone to represent him as a proxy. The party has apparently decided to concentrate only on Thaksin fans and forget about their image for everyone else.

How does that line in the Bible go? "And the God said to him - You can't fool all the people all the time, Jesus"

Apparently you can look at the sun through the sruface of a regular CD, there appears to be a layer of some metal that protects the eyes. You also have to find a spot on CD that is not covered by paint, probably lettering for brand name.

Yesterday I prepared binoculars - they can project the image of the sun on the sheet of paper.

No use - it's raining.

..During the heyday (airport) days of the anti-democracy PAD, the pro-democracy movement began to form. ...

I think you got your timeline wrong. The airport was the end of PAD protests, and reds were born long before that.

In fact they took on the red color during the Surayud government, when PAD was comletely silent and they held the first pro-Thaksin demonstration. General anti-junta rallies in those days didn't have any particular colors, except, perhaps, black.

On the day PAD started it's second wave of protests, when they held a meeting at Thammasat, anti-PAD protesters threw bags of shit and urine at them and one even flashed his genitals.

Should that be counted as a birthday of reds as force to counter the "anti-democracy PAD"?

All this from "Plus" and "Animatic" who have never been to a pro-democracy event of the Red Shirts. I know that absolutely and without doubt. Such vitriol would never come from anyone with first-hand knowledge and observation of Red Shirt pro-democracy events. There is no correlation between these POV and reality on the ground with these people. I invite anyone to see for yourself as I am absolutely confident it would bear out my comments. So what prompts such negative and unfounded commentary about the Red Shirts? I can only speculate. And should I be woefully wrong about "Plus" and "Animatic" having been to their events, than what would cause them to misrepresent the pro-democracy Red Shirts so vehemently. Again, I can only speculate. They are clearly counting on the fact that the Farangs on this board have also never been near Red Shirt pro-democracy events and can be told misrepresentative information because they dont know any better. In my sincerity, I invite you to join me to see for yourself. It would put the lie to "Plus" and "Animatic".

So, how about that timeline? It's still wrong, regardless of whether I've been to their rallies or not. And what do you mean by "unfounded"? There were no red rallies on those days? Reds didn't throw bags of shit and urine? That dude didn't flash? His picture was all over the papers.

I dont' see anything but a flame in your post - no facts, no arguments, no clarifications, no case to present, just a mindless rant against fellow TV members.

Do you think there were really secret prisons?

More likely is that FBI quitely asked for an "office" to use. According to WP article, there were only a couple of agents and they even personally transported the guy to the hospital and wiped his ass there.

That doesn't sound like a "secred prison". It could have been some Thai officer's private property.

..During the heyday (airport) days of the anti-democracy PAD, the pro-democracy movement began to form. ...

I think you got your timeline wrong. The airport was the end of PAD protests, and reds were born long before that.

In fact they took on the red color during the Surayud government, when PAD was comletely silent and they held the first pro-Thaksin demonstration. General anti-junta rallies in those days didn't have any particular colors, except, perhaps, black.

On the day PAD started it's second wave of protests, when they held a meeting at Thammasat, anti-PAD protesters threw bags of shit and urine at them and one even flashed his genitals.

Should that be counted as a birthday of reds as force to counter the "anti-democracy PAD"?

Get real, Abhisit, or any other PM for that matter, it not going to publicise highly secret arrangements Thailand made with the US seven years ago. That would set a very bad precedent, and if the point is to prevent future torture, there are less costly ways, like, for example, simply not allowing it again.

It just shows which horse the business is backing at the moment.

There were days when Dems couldn't get a dime out of them.

Also don't forget that a couple of heavyweights like someone from Thaksin family can easily tip the balance into PTP favour in just one big go.

Let's see how the donation pie is divided once the elections are on, that would be more indicative.