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11 hours ago, Dogmatix said:

 

I went to prep school and public school in the UK at at time when floggings were legally and liberally administered.  The worst violence in my experience was meted out to 7-13 year old prep school boys.  Our head master was clearly a sadist and got sexual pleasure from viciously caning 7 year olds in their thin cotton pyjamas over the laundry baskets, so their blood curdling screams could be heard throughout the dormitories - this for the heinous crime of talking after lights out which for them was 7.00 pm when it was still light in summer and early autumn.  He also loved pulling boys shorts and underpants down and caning their bare bottoms till the blood was flowing freely down their legs. Boys were caned, not only for behavioral issues but for academic offenses like getting poor marks in French vocab rote learning tests. At my public school prefects were allowed to cane boys for offenses such as not calling them sir and there were house beatings where each of up to 15 house prefects took a stroke with a run up at a victim.  We had a famous headmaster who was sacked from Eton, where he was nicknamed The Beater, and carried on his child abuse at my school.  He loved the 13 year old first years and would give them a choice of a serious 6 up caning (with trousers up) in his study or a much milder trousers and underpants down beating with his belt which involved fondling of their private parts.  Another teacher beat up 9 and 10 year olds in the junior school bashing them about the head with the aluminium studs of rugby boots.  I would defy you to say that these corporal punishments did no lasting harm to the boys.  There was also copious homosexual harassment and rapes too.  The sense of impunity regarding corporal punishment extended to homosexual harassment. The school, Fettes in Edinburgh, got a poor write up in the Scottish parliamentary enquiry on past child abuse in boarding schools, resulting in 1.2 million pounds in out of court settlements paid out so far and there are still cases pending against it.  

 

I was also regularly beaten at home.  My father had the same attitude as you.  He said he was beaten often at home and at school and it never did him any harm.  But my experience was different.  I had no respect for the teacher who obviously flogged for sexual pleasure, as might be expected.  But being beaten by father instilled in me a deep disrespect for a man who beat his own children, viciously on occasion. The parental beatings made me feel quite certain I was right and they were wrong because they debased themselves by using violence against their own children.  

 

I say NO to corporal punishment of children under any circumstances.  Teachers cannot be trusted with this sort of punishment.

Excellent post. You make a very valid point about the, "my old man/teacher used to beat me and it did no harm, wo I'll do the same". 

It quite clearly has done them harm as it has now instilled the belief that it is acceptable for a grown man to hit children. These types of people are a danger to children who need love, support and guidance from the key adults in their lives, not a "healthy sense of fear". 

I ask those people, show the evidence and research that proves physical punishment of children has positive outcomes. I'll save you the time. Not a single study has shown this.

Research HAS shown that children who are beaten have increased levels of anti social behaviour, associations with mental health problems (depression, anxiety), slower cognitive development and it adversely affects academic achievement. 

16 minutes ago, HappyExpat57 said:

 

The point was I THINK about smacking them but DON'T! We all have dark places we go and controlling our behavior is the choice we make.

I totally understand your point. My point was that if you did give him a crack, you'd get worse. Yet some (most likely the elderly generation) still believe that, "it didn't do me any harm so we should be able to go round hitting naughty kids".

It's not their fault though that they have this mindset. They know no better. 

45 minutes ago, HappyExpat57 said:

 

You really need to reconsider offering advice to someone when you don't know all the facts. Your situation involved kids who will react to your tactics. The two I was referring to couldn't care less about little behavior marks. I tried the "writing 100 times 'I will not be a naughty student'" and that had no impact. I tried contacting the parents only to find out the parents couldn't care less. I genuinely worry about one in particular bringing a gun to class to shoot me. The other has the deadest eyes in a youth I have ever seen. I only have seven more classes with them then they are out of my life and I'll breathe a little easier.

Give the kid a slap in front of his mates and I can almost guarantee he WILL bring a gun into school and shoot you.

4 hours ago, retarius said:

IAs I explained it is about 'outcomes', and in my opinion the previous generations methods of punishment produced superior results based on young people crimes (perhaps you missed the wave of youth stabbings in Britain).

 

You're partially right about what is causing the wave of youth stabbings. You think it's because parents don't batter their kids anymore. It's not. It's for 2 reasons. It's because parents batter their kids for the most trivial of reasons to the point that it becomes abusive as that's the only way they know how to 'control' children and those kids grow up seeing violence as being acceptable. It's also, and you're right about this, a lack of discipline. Parents are too absorbed in their own lives, smartphones, social media, reality TV, drunk, drugged up and focused on their latest boyfriend/girlfriend to give their kids any real positive love and attention, to have conversations with them about morals and what's right and what's wrong.

I spent 7 years working in a school in Leeds where I would see kids getting battered and being called an 'effing muppet' at the school gates every afternoon for having dirty clothes, cos it meant that mum had to wash them. Or kids whose parents were never involved, allowing them to do what they want, when they want including kids swearing at parents without any consequence because 'it's too much hard work to discipline them and it's the school's job to do that'.

As I said before, it's lazy parenting. These kids had absolutely no chance in life except to get away from those families as soon as possible, which some of them have been able to do and are living happy, successful lives. Many others though are in prison.

4 hours ago, retarius said:

I aged you a carefully reasoned argument that attacked your cherished (and stupid) view that children should never be smacked under any circumstances. You have no arguments to support your cherished belief, only emotional beliefs based on nothing at all. As I explained it is about 'outcomes', and in my opinion the previous generations methods of punishment produced superior results based on young people crimes (perhaps you missed the wave of youth stabbings in Britain).

My opinions and the reasons for them, I have articulated clearly. And you can disagree, but where the hell do you get off calling me a 'sick b@stard' for holding my view, which is perfectly acceptable for people of my age and has had my, admittedly working class, my upbringing.

By your self confession, your mum's method of upbringing raised you as a model and perfect citizen, who didn't even  his kids, which is exactly what I am saying. Spare the rod and spoilt child. As I said earlier, your beliefs are of zero consequence, none at all. It is out ones that matter, not silly beliefs about harms done by spanking children discipline. 

 

So how did your kids turn out? I'm imagining that they are now in prison for GBH or some major crime having had no discipline although you will tell me they are model and perfect citizens just like you are.

I think you are sick b@stard, and a hypocrite to boot.

My kids are 12 and 8 yrs old. So not in prison for GBH and it's highly doubtful they ever will be. They're really nice kids and definitely not spoilt. But yeah, at times, they can be little <deleted>s annoying the hell out of each other. However, they are able to accept when I say no which is actually very often and they get plenty of discipline. Just not beatings. That is lazy parenting from people who are not educated enough to have the skill set to find other ways of controlling kids. It's also abuse. You wouldn't hit your adult child for doing the wrong thing. So why would you think it's acceptable to hit a child? THAT'S JUST SICK!

You might not realise this, but there are many other ways to discipline a child without having to resort to violence and smacking. I was able to teach my children from a very young age that when I say there will be a consequence, I mean it. E.g When my boy was about 4 or 5, we were going to Lumphini park, him on his scooter and me walking. I told him to stop when he gets to roads/sois. We came to 1 soi and he didn't so I gave him a warning that if he does it again, we would not go to the park and he'd have to walk all the way back home. Came to another soi and he didn't stop. So I stayed true to my word and we went back home. I explained why he got the consequence and didn't give in to his tears. He never did it again and from then on he knew that if I say there will be a consequence, then there will be. 

A cruel person such as my mum of old and yourself would have given him a smack and then when he cried, told him that he'd be given something to really cry about when we got home. Again, that would be lazy parenting.

And yes, for a grown adult (and a man at that) to whack a child IS disgusting. 

Maybe it was an EV Masserati and the owner wanted to hear some roar. 

I was diagnosed with stage 2 malignant melanoma in May, and with melanoma in situ in September. My 12 yr old son was also diagnosed with it on his ear at the same time as my second diagnosis. Send me a private message and we'll talk over line/whatsapp. 

I used Dr Punyaphat from Samitivej Sukhumvit. I highly recommend being insistent on having anything suspicious removed and biopsied. 

The next time I visit the dentist, I want THAT anaesthetic. 

The photos they use are always of extremely attractive women. I waste their time asking if they're single, if they want to date a good looking western guy, how big their tits are, would they like a 3-way with me and the gf, which hole is their favourite etc, etc, etc. They often get very irate that I'm not answering their questions. 

3 hours ago, brianthainess said:

Well of course I haven't, foreigners are not allowed to register or own any firearm in Thailand, so unless you are a Thai citizen neither have you. Why on earth would I want a firearm here or anywhere else, or support the US arms trade, the RNA controls the US government, What a pathetic country it is.

Why would YOU want to own a gun in Thailand????????? says a lot about what you might be involved in. where they don't even have to be locked away. Plenty of Thais have money to buy guns as we have seen in the news many times here.

Of course he needs his gun. It's his 2nd amendment right to protect himself from threats both domestic and foreign. Wothout he would feel insecure and vulnerable.

Biggest threat to us in Thailand ATM is this new stupid tax law. Who knows, maybe he can do something about it with his 2nd amendment right to bear arms. Oh yeah we're in Thailand. Daft American laws don't apply here. 

You can take the man out of Thailand... 

"I will undoubtedly encounter challenges due to weather conditions, language barriers, different lifestyles and intensive training." 

Somebody obviously hasn't told her about the death traps. AKA roads. Good luck with that one, love. 

When the last lunar eclipse was visible, I told my students about it, why and how it happens and that they should go outside and watch this celestial event. I even ran a little photography competition for the event.

The next day, one of my boys told me that his parents didn't allow him to watch it because if he did, his eyes would bleed and he'd die. His parents have very good jobs and are well educated (the boy is at an international school in Bangkok). 

2 hours ago, PETERTHEEATER said:

Have they tried WD40 to remove the tarnish?

Toothpaste would be more appropriate with all the bull <deleted> that comes out of their mouths. 

2 hours ago, connda said:

  ????

I'd be much more impressed if he kept the PM salary and donated his other "salaries". You know... The ones that come in brown envelopes without a pay slip. 

Shocking that she was abducted from school. Where were the teachers and assistants? Did they even notice her missing? 

I'm not surprised about him escaping custody. The RTP are a bunch of clueless buffoons. 

21 hours ago, sambum said:

Indeed,  Lord Jeffrey Archer:- 

 

The Right Honourable

The Lord Archer of Weston-super-Mare

 

"On 19 July 2001, Archer was found guilty of perjury and perverting the course of justice at the 1987 trial. He was sentenced to four years' imprisonment by Mr Justice Potts."

 

And he served half of his sentence in the Category "D" HM Prison Hollesley Bay in Suffolk. before being released on licence, retained his peerage and continued to be a member of The House of Lords. 

 

 

 

 

And the cabinet minister, Chris Huhne and his wife. Both jailed because she took his speeding fine and licence points for him. 

11 minutes ago, Expat68 said:

I am 70 year old and have never had a girlfriend/wife who has been within 6 years of my age in my lifetime. When I was young the biggest gap was 20 years, now I am older currently the gap is 30+, she doesn't complain, nor do I!!

Your partner is 100 years old??? That's impressive. 

Article says 22m long sword. WTF. Even if it's a typo a 2.2m sword is massive. These kids should be punished severely. 

If you're downloading movies, yts.mx is a much better site to use. Their catalogue of films is enormous. 

33 minutes ago, RichardColeman said:

Listen , if they stole 3 BILLION baht then they may be good at scamming but their greed and staying in the same place proves their idiocy. If I scammed 3 Billion, I'd have gone some place with no extradition months ago

This ????. Pure greed. 200mil would be enough to last your lifetime and have a fairly luxurious lifestyle. Just quit while you're ahead.