Pattaya Pat

I covered this topic on here recently.

Fwiw, I would think it will be the same as last season, no reason why not is there. Remember, if there are any changes that is probably down to PLTV and not CTH.

The base figure is £18,600 for the spouse/partner, there is an additional requirement of £3,800 for each child seeking settlement, so in your case that would be £26,200.

 

If the children are British Citizens they have a right to live in the UK so don't need a Settlement Visa and don't come into the equation and the figure remains at £18,600, if one of the children is a UK Citizen and the other not, then you would need £3,600 on top of the spouse financial requirement, so £22,400.

Ok thanks. Can't you get a job as a road sweeper for GBP 18,600.00? Not sure how a family of 4 or even 2  can live on that after tax his day and age? Ironically, I have seen some complain that it's too high a figure!

At what point would you have to stop showing these requirements, is it after 5 years when you apply for the ILR? Are you in the clear after that. Also, if she was granted with ILR after 5 years does she then become a UK citizen and can apply for a passport or does that come later?

You can meet the requirement ( 24,800 GBP) through income or savings, or a combination of both.  But you cannot combine savings with income from self-employment.

 

If you want to meet the requirement through savings alone, then  with a wife and two children you will need 78,000 GBP in savings.

 

If you are going back to the UK to find, or start, employment, then basically you will not be able to meet the requirements until you have worked for a minimum of 6 months, with a proven salary, and that salary must "annualise"  at ( show to be a gross income over a projected 12 months) at least 18,600 GBP ( or less, if you have some savings to meeting the requirement with a combination of income and savings).

 

Tony M

Ok, thanks Tony. But if the children are British would one still need to show the additional 16k?

Also, assuming all goes well after the first 30 months, at the point of renewal, would it only be at that point and not before, that one would need to show the same financial requirement again, and would that have to be in place at least 6 months prior, ie after 24 months?

Thanks.

You can use savings.  This table is based upon the minimum 18600 requirement, if the children are hers not yours you'll need more to get to 24800 of course.

 

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Great. Thanks for your help.

I'm not 100% clear on it to be honest, but I more or les get the jist of it.

 

 

Its not about rain - they are keeping the reservoir empty (with enough for center water only) to dredge the the reservoir and to rebuild the surrounding area. The idea is that all around the lake will end up like the picnic section which used to be opposite the bars near Khun Johns restaurant. 

 

The result will be that it will hold more water and be more of an attraction it seems. It is causing nightmares for people who use village wells which are not that deep. 

 

For those around here getting water delivered, I suggest you tell the guy you want Center Water and not their brown well water. The cost difference is they pay 6 baht for 1000 liters of well water and 25 baht for 1000 liters of center water. Best to follow them and make sure they do fill up from the center though....

 

Are you actually serious?? You're suggesting that we go out and follow the water man?

 

Back on planet earth, how come you know so much about this?

 

 

 

I am. When you don't you end up with brown water coming out of the tap, and I prefer to have water from the center on Mabprachan. It's hardly a chore - if I need to drive to 7/11 or something I would tie in water delivery with that just to cclock eyes on the guy at the top of the lake filling up from clean water from the center. 

 

Back on planet earth.... why all the agro? 

 

Oh ok, that's fair enough.

As for 'agro' I have no idea what you mean..

I know this has probably been covered many times on here before, but I understand that in 2012 there was a new law passed where the sponsor (me) needs to have a job in the UK to show that you can support your family before there is any chance of your spouse getting her visa. In my case with a wife and 2 kids I believe the salary needs to be at least GBP 24,800.00 per annum.

My question is do you HAVE to be in a job with at least this salary or would they also accept showing a lump sum as prove that you can support your family before finding a job? If yes, how much do you need to show? Or, if no, how long would one have to be in said job for before they are satisfied that you are back on your feet and can support your family (even if you have a lump sum in the bank anyway) ? 

I'm only in the very early stages of possibly going back and wouldn't be for at least another 2 years, if at all, but this is an area of concern to me as I wouldn't really want to be apart from them for too long.

Thanks for any help and apologies if this area has been talked to death already.

Its not about rain - they are keeping the reservoir empty (with enough for center water only) to dredge the the reservoir and to rebuild the surrounding area. The idea is that all around the lake will end up like the picnic section which used to be opposite the bars near Khun Johns restaurant. 

 

The result will be that it will hold more water and be more of an attraction it seems. It is causing nightmares for people who use village wells which are not that deep. 

 

For those around here getting water delivered, I suggest you tell the guy you want Center Water and not their brown well water. The cost difference is they pay 6 baht for 1000 liters of well water and 25 baht for 1000 liters of center water. Best to follow them and make sure they do fill up from the center though....

Are you actually serious?? You're suggesting that we go out and follow the water man?

Back on planet earth, how come you know so much about this?

If you're not married already then what is that going to cost? Never cheap but probably 100,000 baht minimum ( not to mention the ongoing future costs) and if you're earning 80,000 baht per month then surely you have a work permit and the appropriate visa. Marriage seems an expensive option just to get a visa. Marriage because you want to spend the rest of your lives together and have children - fair enough.

100k baht to get married? Am I missing something here??

I think it costs 40 baht to get married!

Ain't that the truth. I swear, 9 out of 10 number plates are from Bangkok, and the only thing they seem to be doing is driving up 2nd road, down Klang to Beach Rd, south on Beach Rd and then back to second road - repeated ad nauseam.

Why can't they discover all the other lovely places near Bangkok; Bang Saen, Bang Sare, Hua Hin, Cha-am etc.

Hey, Bangkokians. Leave our cesspool to us Cesspoolians!

Ah, we have another plate observer.

Traffic was hideous in town today. These regular long weekends are a nightmare if you want to get anywhere.

 

 

Where's the irony?

 

I'm simply trying to find out whether we can open or not?

 

 

If you come on here, the internet, and an "ex pats" forum, to find out then one might ask how you ever opened a "bar" in the first place. Oh, but that is explained by one VISA Credit Card advance I guess.

 

Fact is and remains, to respect the Queen and all mothers working around Thailand, you should not open said "bar" on this holiday. To do so is showing a lack of respect for the Royal family and Thai's in general.

 

Use your common sense mate. Earn some respect and don't open. So what if you lose 300baht in beer sales. Mothers Day is a big deal to the children and the mothers. 

 

Ha ha ha, I'm not sure what I find the most funny, either that he should close up shop to show 'respect' or that the days taking are only 300 baht, ha ha.

Mobi - I would imagine if it was a dry day the local filth would have informed you by now. By memory I'm quite sure that Mothers day here is a normal drinking day.

 

Any confirmation either way that you now have to be 50+ to get the 60 day extension if married and/or have a child?

 

There is simply no such rule.

 

Married to a Thai national or having a child with Thai nationality allows you to apply for a 60 day extension.

 

Sure, but there was talk of this on here last week when we saw those changes, although it was all very unclear.

Thanks.

I was in the underground parking at Central a couple of days ago getting on my bike to leave when a group of young men, about 15, came walking up the bike ramp going towards the store entrance.  My first thought was "what a mob" and that it would be easy for them to do whatever they wanted in a pack like that.  It's a lot easier for people to do things in a mob than as individuals.

Very insightful that. Thanks.

Any confirmation either way that you now have to be 50+ to get the 60 day extension if married and/or have a child?

I popped in today to the Pattaya Sheep Farm and was totally delighted. It is well run, clean, interesting, amusing and great value for money. I just hope they don't do stupid things like introduce a dual pricing system. I wish them well!

Amusing? What were the funny bits? I must have missed them.

Just got back from asking around seems even the thai's dont know..walked into 7/11 and asked sorry mister not know...walked into family mart and they have a sign on there fridge saying in thai no sale but did not know what date.

Can anyone confirm what day is no sale of alcohol 

Oh dear.

It's made my day reading this stroy. Amazing.

Some medical stuff ...

 

If you do deicide to commit to having a Family ... where are the 3 of you going to live?

 

If that's Thailand ... do you have enough coin to support the Family?

If that's going to be the West ... has she visited your Country ... she may not like it there.

 

If you have decided to stay in Thailand ... have you asked where your gf will want to live once the child is born?

A move back to her home village or surrounds might be a request by her.

Again, not by every woman ... but a common occurrence.

 

Ignore the naysayers who say that you are to old to have kids.

My Dad was around your age when I was born ... and boy ... was I glad for that decision ... 

 

That's the technical stuff I can help with.

 

The question is then you have to look into your Heart and see what the answer is in there.

 

My Partner and I had Twin boys earlier this year ... and I / We are over the moon with joy.

 

 

If you want to take part of this conversation into a PM ... my doors open for you.

 

It's such a big decision, it's always good to chew the fat.

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You are pinning pics up of your kids on here??

That is simply tragic.

 

 

 

My wife came into the room a few minutes ago and I showed her a couple of the posts on this thread.  After she rolled her eyes and asked why anyone would think to know better about her/our choices than her/us, we shared another one of those knowing glances.

Many men have a wife that lies to them, and they never know.
I do know that, because I had such a wife.
Is your wife honest and faithful to you?
Only time can tell (not you, and not me).
 

 
 
As far as I'm concerned, you've crossed the line of acceptable forum etiquette with your question about my wife.  Worthy of a banning or suspension I would think.

I agree ,..... 'up country' has gone too far...an apology would be in order

 

Hahaah...you have to laugh at some of the hissy fits people have on here...oohhh look, someone is dissing my wife, how very dare you, that's my wife you know, lol.

Not sure why you would come on here to discuss this with a bunch of strangers, but anyway my advise would be do NOT do it (assuming you are capable and you meet the right person) it is a huge responsibility, it will tie you down hugely and you will probably end up regretting it. Just enjoy your life man, kids are a MASSIVE hassle, even if they are cute.

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My son went there this week and emailed me that he couldn't believe I'd sent him to such a place. A ladyboy on the street literally grabbed my son's genitals through his pants (I told him he was probably pickpocketing him at the same time, but the wallet was still there) and a bar girl charged him 500 baht to say to her "I don't really wan't to talk, thanks" and said "you pay NOW".

Maybe you should have taught him some street survival skills when he was growing up?

Anyway, if he didnt have any before then he has had a very cheap crash course here, in relative safety, and that may stand him in good stead if ever he goes somewhere really dodgy.

Perhaps rather than being unpleasant you could post some real advice? He has been abroad before, just never been assaulted before. If you have something productive and helpful to add that would be welcomed.

It never ceazes to amaze me how easily offended some people are.

I went to tesco south tonight at 8pm. I managed to go to a checkout without lining up, in fact there were about 6 checkouts with no one. The night before at friendship it was the same..eerie.

Wow. Just wow!