Pattaya Pat

Reruns. Teething problems over double dubbed commentary seem to have been solved. Very frustrating as I still have not seen the Man City game due to unreliable published schedule.

Right now they are showing a rerun of the Norwich game as follows:

Stadium 2 . Ch132. In English. You need to press the green button. The Thai commentary is available as the alternative. Picture quality v good, audio quality v.good.

The TV guide shows Man City game coming imminently on Stadium 1. Ch131. Lets see.

Spoke too soon, earlier they showed the Arsenal game. No Man City. On Stadium 4 they are showing last years Utd v City.

I am very happy we have CTH, and EPL so I will not bash them.....but they do need a British Rep on their team to act as a liaison...... To sort out the gripes. BB any thoughts on this? I have time on my hands

Another one who feels that they cannot be critisized. Weird.

Reruns. Teething problems over double dubbed commentary seem to have been solved. Very frustrating as I still have not seen the Man City game due to unreliable published schedule.

Right now they are showing a rerun of the Norwich game as follows:

Stadium 2 . Ch132. In English. You need to press the green button. The Thai commentary is available as the alternative. Picture quality v good, audio quality v.good.

The TV guide shows Man City game coming imminently on Stadium 1. Ch131. Lets see.

Good to see they have sorted that out. Saying that, I could never sit and watch a whole game again if I already know the score, alas I very rarely watch a re-run unless it is a game the following morning from the night before and I don't know the score.

Let's see if tonights game is shown again in the morning. My advice to anyone who really wants to see it is stay up, or get up.

Just saying it as it is.

Still very happy with CTH overall. A better product than True at a better price.

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I couldn't disagree more.

I don't even turn CTH on. It's rubbish.

Now watching the Arsenal v Villa rerun. Even though the onscreen menu says it is Man City v Newcastle.

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I hope you are not critisizing. That's not allowed around here.

Sure, I was bringing True into the story in other posts. CTH have taken the football off True, so it is perfectly normal to make comparisons,surely?

If you read through my posts I've questioned why they can't get the replays right the following day and in English, I do not believe that critisism is unfair or demanding too much, it is pretty basic stuff IMO for a company that have had months to prepare. You clearly think don't it is as you refuse to critisize CTH in any shape or form and think I am being harsh, so let's just agree to disagree.

West Ham Pat

I don't think anyone is refusing to criticize CTH or thinks they have got off to a perfect start, it's just that 1)people appreciate it is very early days for them 2)they are happy with having made a fairly substantial saving of their monthly subscription outgoings 3)they remember how things were with True, to a greater degree in the early years when basically all you got was the game (sometimes not in its entirety) and that was it, no other English football shows whatsoever... but also in the more recent years of True, when yes, HD was introduced, but only on select games.

If this was the same price as True people here would be going loopy, the fact that it is cheaper is appeazing people.

As I have said many times already I appreciate it is early but repeating a night time game in the morning and having a tv schedule should be things that should already be in place, I don't think that is asking for too much.

Sure, I was bringing True into the story in other posts. CTH have taken the football off True, so it is perfectly normal to make comparisons,surely?

If you read through my posts I've questioned why they can't get the replays right the following day and in English, I do not believe that critisism is unfair or demanding too much, it is pretty basic stuff IMO for a company that have had months to prepare. You clearly think don't it is as you refuse to critisize CTH in any shape or form and think I am being harsh, so let's just agree to disagree.

West Ham Pat

Alfie Conn - Not sure why you are putting words in my mouth like 'Rome wasn't built in a day' I've never said that I expected it all to be perfect, far from it....but they have had months to prepare and I would have expected them to get the basics right like following day repeats for example. I'm not sure why you feel that is being too demanding for a paying customer?

Your comparing a company (True) that has been running for 24 years with a company (CTH) that has been running for 6 months, hardly like for like.

Football wise they will be ahead due to having all HD channels, plus the split screen channel once they get PLTV at the end of September

There you go again, putting words into my mouth...where in the above have I even mentioned True?? I said that they should be able to play the repeats without too many problems.

You're weird.

That wasn't in response to the above post it was a general post replying to where

you've been praising True all day long, in case you have forgotten :

Posted Today, 10:56

All I can say is come back TRUE all is forgiven.

Posted Today, 15:38

he day TRUE lost the PL was a sad day for Thailand.

TPosted Today, 15:57

It's not all about saving a little money for everyone you know....I would much rather pay the extra and have True back, all day long....there's an old saying 'you get what you pay for' and that is most definitely apt here...

Posted Today, 17:36

....I would happily pay the extra for True who had all of the above plus a whole range of other sports...the only one positive (for me anyhow) is that CTH have SKY news...

Alfie Conn - Not sure why you are putting words in my mouth like 'Rome wasn't built in a day' I've never said that I expected it all to be perfect, far from it....but they have had months to prepare and I would have expected them to get the basics right like following day repeats for example. I'm not sure why you feel that is being too demanding for a paying customer?

Your comparing a company (True) that has been running for 24 years with a company (CTH) that has been running for 6 months, hardly like for like.

Football wise they will be ahead due to having all HD channels, plus the split screen channel once they get PLTV at the end of September

There you go again, putting words into my mouth...where in the above have I even mentioned True?? I said that they should be able to play the repeats without too many problems.

You're weird.

Saving a little bit of money is clearly more important to some than quality programming.

Where was the repeat of last nights game this morning? They can't even get something as simple as that right for their new customers. I want to watch the Chelse game tomorrow but won't be able to unless I stay up to an unearthly hour..

I'm not critisising them just for the hell of it...but there is no programme schedule available, no english punditry, no english only audio on the re-runs, if you are lucky to catch one...no preview or review shows, etc....I would happily pay the extra for True who had all of the above plus a whole range of other sports...the only one positive (for me anyhow) is that CTH have SKY news...

Defend CTH all you like, but it is poor IMO.

I think it would be quite simple to repeat the games the next day and like you I wonder why they are not doing it?

I think this question cuts to the chase. Does CTH plan to show repeat games in English on a coherent basis like True ? Given the many early morning games, the next day repeats in English would be a must for me. And the logical next question would be are they going to provide anything else other than the games live and in English ? The pundits, etc. Time will tell if they are planning on a more professional approach and haven't arrived there yet, or if they have no plan to provide anything but the bare essentials.

I'm hoping BangkokBlue can fill us in. But I suspect no news from him might be bad news.

When the clocks change, sometimes the late evening games are too late for me!

CTH have bought the rights to show all EPL games and that's exactly what they are doing, in all fairness......not that I'm impressed, just saying.

If we get repeats like True it will be a nice bonus, but will John Dykes et al, be an 'add on' I wonder?

I agree, that extra hour seems to make a lot of difference.

No, they can't possibly start charging more money mid-stream when so many have paid up for it, would be outrageous and would be very suprised if they did that.

Alfie Conn - Not sure why you are putting words in my mouth like 'Rome wasn't built in a day' I've never said that I expected it all to be perfect, far from it....but they have had months to prepare and I would have expected them to get the basics right like following day repeats for example. I'm not sure why you feel that is being too demanding for a paying customer?

Saving a little bit of money is clearly more important to some than quality programming.

Where was the repeat of last nights game this morning? They can't even get something as simple as that right for their new customers. I want to watch the Chelse game tomorrow but won't be able to unless I stay up to an unearthly hour..

I'm not critisising them just for the hell of it...but there is no programme schedule available, no english punditry, no english only audio on the re-runs, if you are lucky to catch one...no preview or review shows, etc....I would happily pay the extra for True who had all of the above plus a whole range of other sports...the only one positive (for me anyhow) is that CTH have SKY news...

Defend CTH all you like, but it is poor IMO.

I think it would be quite simple to repeat the games the next day and like you I wonder why they are not doing it?

I think this question cuts to the chase. Does CTH plan to show repeat games in English on a coherent basis like True ? Given the many early morning games, the next day repeats in English would be a must for me. And the logical next question would be are they going to provide anything else other than the games live and in English ? The pundits, etc. Time will tell if they are planning on a more professional approach and haven't arrived there yet, or if they have no plan to provide anything but the bare essentials.

I'm hoping BangkokBlue can fill us in. But I suspect no news from him might be bad news.

You mean to say that you don't like Red Bull motor cross?

Punditry from PLTV (Dykes and Co) is meant to be arriving end of next month on another channel (Stadium 7)

Saving a little bit of money is clearly more important to some than quality programming.

Where was the repeat of last nights game this morning? They can't even get something as simple as that right for their new customers. I want to watch the Chelse game tomorrow but won't be able to unless I stay up to an unearthly hour..

I'm not critisising them just for the hell of it...but there is no programme schedule available, no english punditry, no english only audio on the re-runs, if you are lucky to catch one...no preview or review shows, etc....I would happily pay the extra for True who had all of the above plus a whole range of other sports...the only one positive (for me anyhow) is that CTH have SKY news...

Defend CTH all you like, but it is poor IMO.

I think it would be quite simple to repeat the games the next day and like you I wonder why they are not doing it?

Yep, they can't even get the basic right, that's all I'm saying. How hard must it be?

Erh, yes

The day TRUE lost the PL was a sad day for Thailand.

In the long run i think it will prove to have been a happy day. True have had things their own way for far far too long. Some competition is shaking things up and will i believe ultimately be a good thing for the consumer. Just give it a bit of time.

They have a long long way to go to prove you right.

They are what, a week into their Premier League broadcasting service..

Erh, yes I know that, thanks for telling me.

As I said before, if you are to be proved correct CTH have a long way to go and if they get there I'll be happy to hold my hands up...but right now they are coming across like a bunch of amateurs...will that change? Only time will tell.

Saving a little bit of money is clearly more important to some than quality programming.

Where was the repeat of last nights game this morning? They can't even get something as simple as that right for their new customers. I want to watch the Chelse game tomorrow but won't be able to unless I stay up to an unearthly hour..

I'm not critisising them just for the hell of it...but there is no programme schedule available, no english punditry, no english only audio on the re-runs, if you are lucky to catch one...no preview or review shows, etc....I would happily pay the extra for True who had all of the above plus a whole range of other sports...the only one positive (for me anyhow) is that CTH have SKY news...

Defend CTH all you like, but it is poor IMO.

The day TRUE lost the PL was a sad day for Thailand.

In the long run i think it will prove to have been a happy day. True have had things their own way for far far too long. Some competition is shaking things up and will i believe ultimately be a good thing for the consumer. Just give it a bit of time.

They have a long long way to go to prove you right.

A mark of 6/10 is still a pass. That's what I give CTH at this stage. Worth 800 a month. What do you reckon boys?

It's not all about saving a little money for everyone you know....I would much rather pay the extra and have True back, all day long....there's an old saying 'you get what you pay for' and that is most definitely apt here...

CTH are the only winners here. TRUE have lost a heap of customers....there are people who cannot get CTH for whatever reason, so cannot watch the football...the bar owners have been royally screwed...and the folk that have got CTH have in the main cancelled TRUE and are now missing out on a lot of other stuff whilst having to suffer CTH's shocking service.

The day TRUE lost the PL was a sad day for Thailand.

All I can say is come back TRUE all is forgiven. Are people still slagging them off out of interest?

I know the CTH apologists will say 'it's early' and sure you have to give then some leaway for that, but this is a bloody shambles. Thier FB page said last nights game was being re-run at 10am today on ST1, was it on? Nope. And what's with the Thai and English audio together on the re-runs? You can't watch football like that, it's simply too annoying.

Sorry, but it's a shambles and I'm not holding my breath that it will get any better anytime soon.

the bar I was watching in, I noticed sometimes it tended to suddenly go in slow motion and then freeze for half a second before going back to normal again every few minutes. Spotted it again today during the Spurs game.

I don't know if it was just his box or a general glitch their end? I did spot the same thing happening on the other screen which was hooked up to a seperate CTH decoder.

I've had that. It's not a big deal but never happened with true.

Bit off topic, but has anyone listed the English Channels on CTH anywhere? Be nice to sort out the "Favourites".

Thanx

I've pretty much accepted that apart from the PL and SKY news I won't be watching much esle, maybe a little FX and Star World, but that's it.

After having to suffer the awful BBC World for so many years I am loving having SKY news, it's a real shot in the arm for me, and of course their sports round up is very good. I remember reading on this thread before that SKY news just go round in circles and you will get bored with it but that's a nonsense.

This is worthy of a new thread??

What's all this talk of CTH being half the price of True? I paid for True Gold for about 1500 and the CTH package is about 1000 (both including VAT). That's not such a huge difference. And CTH staff have no idea what to do in the event of a problem, like mine which has left me with no HD channels having already paid 2 months in advance.

Funny because the top package on True,platinum ran just over 2000 baht a month.

The equivalent top package on CTH runs at just over 900 baht that's more than half when I went to school.

That's not a fair comparison. To get the Premier League with True you only needed True Gold which was 1500 baht. To get the Premier League with CTH it costs almost 1000 baht. If you paid for the top package when you didn't need it, more fool you.

Oh I see, so to pay out a huge sum of around 200 baht extra per month to get the PL in HD and availabilty of English pundits (was only available on the HD channels with True) meant you was a 'fool'? What a very od thing to say, then again, you sound very bitter at the moment, as I would be too in your position. Hope you get it resolved soon.

BKK Bar Report:

Gullivers didn't miss a beat with CTH on display on all screens. Saw the Liverpool win there.

At Robin Hood (Suk soi 33/1) they had many games on through Astro SuperSport out of Malaysia. The manager said CTH was super expensive for his bar/resto so Astro SuperSport to the rescue. So, no CTH at Robin Hood, but no matter.

You are our roaming on the ground reporter. Nice work.

Maybe more bars will try to go down the Astro route. Don't even know if that is legal in Thailand?

My beef wasn't with the sound if was that the picture was occassionaly moving. I assume I wasn't the only one who had this?

As said earlier, to get a better sound, press the green button twice, or until you see a sign like a bow tie and you will get a better sound.

But overall, not bad.

Phoned a guy in On Nut an hour ago. He says that he will be here at 2:30 to install CTH. Cutting it close. Fingers crossed.

Good luck! Cutting it very close.

Don't let the installer go with the usual - it'll be authorised soon, call me if you have any problems. It did work for me but that was 3 hours later . Hate to think of you biting your finger nails down and judging when to cut your losses and head down Sukhumvit!

Where exactly would you head to in Sukhumvit, out of interest? What bars have CTH?