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  1. Why vote?? Elections with vote buying, elections which have not changed anything over the last twenty years, except that the rich became more rich, great. Well, elections in Thailand had turned to be the minimalist democratic rite, why not ask Guanyin for help, or go to the Wat. The effect is the same.

    Those are the views of my local chemist and his wife and three teachers at my sons school, i live in Issan. All five of these people told me that they hadn't voted in years.

  2. How i hate the PC brigade, you lot take all the fun out of life, way to serious.

    Oh i can't say that they might think i'm racist.......so what ! They could have shown a Chinese person spitting in the ashtray you are using ( if you're lucky,its usually on your foot )

    I think my Great Dane is racist, if a farang visits me he doesn't bark, if a Thai visits he doesn't like it one bit and he shows it, useful though, my house has never been broken into although several in my area have been. Bismark had several Great Danes,he once said that a Great Dane is a good judge of character,if you wish to reduce the theft in your farmyard,get a Great Dane. I agree with him

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  3. This kind of political organization whereby you organize your political base in an "us against them" strategy ..... creating anger and hate ... is a well worn strategy and one that Robert Amsterdam and other "consultants" for 3rd world elections is well known for.

    Google 'Saul Alinsky' for some background. He invented this method of political organization ...... which Amsterdam and Thaksin have found so effective in Thailand.

    Yes it won Thaksin the election and has made him a hero in the eyes of many of those brainwashed by his network of organizers.

    It has also created this current division in Thailand which is killing people and causing so much heartache ... and basically ruining the future.

    The political power base is founded on hatred and anger. JUst look at the Red Shirt movement. And use your brain.

    Yes indeed Thaksin deserves all the credit for introducing this to ISSAN and for introducing this anger and hatred methodology to the political system in Thailand.

    The long standing powers that be in Bangkok have rejected the expressed wishes and desires of the rural poor to be included in the country's economic development, looking down on them after having used and abused them for centuries into the present century.

    Thailand has much natural wealth yet the wealthy and powerful insist on keeping it for themselves. The consequence is a large scale social movement by the colonized countryside population to be included rather than excluded, to be treated as fellow countrymen rather than as a colonized people.

    The Bangkok elites have stopped throwing crumbs at the rural underclass and instead are throwing at them the army, the courts, the media and everything at their disposal to keep them locked out of the economy, society, political system and government. Now they've thrown the fascist Suthep and his storm troopers at them.

    Your post exemplifies the dichotomization of the country along these lines while refusing to accept responsibility for the divide that it creates and magnifies, so I confront it and take you to task about it. The Bangkok elites could have peace, order, stability if they were willing, which they absolutely are not.

    So they are going to have to stew in their own juices for as long as it takes one way or another.

    what a foolish cliched post - can you name the bangkok elite? I bet none of them have as much money as your paymers stolen bollions!!

    Made sense to me. Unfortunately your reply was hard to understand ,Who is this Paymers and what are these bollions that he stole, i presume they are worth a lot a lot of money

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  4. Fact is that in Bangkok and surrounding provinces there should legally no possibility to vote, because under the SOE gathering of people and holding politically motivated gatherings are forbidden...

    No doubt, good point! When PTP start setting an example of being democratic, then maybe an election should be considered. Not just a vote buying farce of the rural farmers, knowing that Isaan has a large share of the voters, and that many are easy to manipulate. Curse the internet too, as some of those farmers are now waking up to what is going on. They're really running out of luck! Knew they would, and glad they are. Shutdown to restart the system!

    Remember, no more than a crowd of 5, that way PTP have a chance to bring back the Dubai despot, before he gets too decrepit to get revenge.

    And PTP still campaining, last time I see them coming with Government helicopter, no joke...Partys not allowed to campain in SoE, another point for nullifying this election...

    Hitler have had a receipt for manipulate people: Give them a simple message, and repeat it every time. It working, and thats why a lot people still full of hate support them, brainwashed. You see some posters here too, repeating the same every time. Pushing the Taksin-regime is a must be, but for what a price? But the easy way is mostly the wrong way...wai2.gif

    Why do some people still keep trying to score with the old Nazi card ? Hitler also said "It is a blessing for us politicians that the average man is so incapable of thought" and he wasn't talking about the Thai farmers.

  5. money money money money can't see the wood for the trees money money money money money money money money can't see the wood for the trees money money money money money money money money can't see the wood for the trees money money money money money money money money can't see the wood for the money money money money can't see the wood for the trees money money money money trees money money money money money money money money can't see the wood for the trees money money money money money money money money can't see the wood for the trees money money money money

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    You however are above such things. I presume that you, like the farmers in this country, got through life with little or no education, have been cheated and lied to by your political masters,have had to get by relying on your wits, physical hard labour and self reliance. Despite all this you, sanctimonious little man, would have refused the money and help from the one politician that looked briefly in your direction because you would have sensed that he was only doing it to help himself.

    Your love of the cohesion of the country would have made you decide, let the good people of Bangkok live in comfort,i will allow myself to be ignored and i will live with my children in poverty so that they can eat my rice, after all we are only stupid buffaloes, we deserve nothing better. What a saint you are

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  6. If you are in Bangkok i think its time to get out, to go for a little holiday at the seaside.Reminds me of something i saw on telly once :

    Hello sir you look very happy

    Oh i am, i am, i just love the seaside to bits, i wrote a poem about it would you like to hear it ?

    No,not really.

    Then you shall,....... Its terrible living in Bangkok

    your face just gets paler and paler

    it brings such a nice pink flush to your cheeks

    when you're chased round the pier by a sailor

  7. The Telegraph:

    Thai red shirts leader says 'It's time to get rid of the elite'

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/thailand/10606562/Thai-red-shirts-leader-says-Its-time-to-get-rid-of-the-elite.html

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    Ko Tee: "This is already a war, but so far it is an unarmed war"

    Hope Yinglack is ready for her murder trial in a year or two....Violence seems to be the only way the reds know unfortunately. If she doesn't come out in the press voicing opposition to reds causing violence then she is complicit in it. Desperately hoping for NO repeat of 2010. This seems to have been the caretakers plan frrom the start, attack the protestors, get the army involved, call a coup and get the reds to kill the 'elites'. Theey have been waiting at least 4 years for this big chance at violence. "I want there to be lots of violence to put an end to all this," Ko Tee said. "I'm bored by speeches. It's time to clean the country, to get rid of the elite, all of them."

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    From Voice of Taksin, September 16-30, 2009

    The headline on the cover 3 years of the coup of the influential - Bomb the aristocrats - DESTROY aristocrats

    Fortunate is the man who has a door he can lock behind him

  8. This is confusing,the red shirts are against the yellow shirts who are protesting.The white shirts ,who are really red shirts will protect the polls at night because the boys in brown shirts aren't willing or capable of giving protection without the help of the boys in green shirts,some of whom are really red inside.They all fear that the men in black shirts will cause trouble.

    This is like painting by numbers except that its revolution by colours

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  9. The rice pledging scams, credit cards for farmers, Etc Etc, is

    all vote buying with the tax payers money.

    Populist policies can never be good for the country,thats why

    you never really see it practiced in civilized countries,promise

    people the Earth and you will always get the most votes,but

    what happens afterwards cannot be sustained,its short sighted

    and no good for the country.

    regards Worgeordie

    So you have never heard that the biggest slice of the EU budget goes as subsidies to the Farmers ?

    Butter mountains,beef mountains,wine lakes.....ring a bell

    Never heard that in many parts of Europe huge industrial sites are stamped out of the ground at huge cost and then given out to industries at minimal rents,low electricity costs and zero corporate taxes for 5 years.

    We are so corruption free and clever,the Thais should copy us and really screw up !!!

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  10. 53 parties. 53! And the protesters want to prevent all these from participating jus to get rid of ONE party. How many people support the other 52? If there is ever an election again, these protesters have pretty much guaranteed that their party will never win.

    53 supporting 1 filthy rich would be dictator. I hope this country at the top folds so they learn and stop thinking they are so special

    Sent from my RM-892_apac_laos_thailand_219 using Tapatalk

    The only things that fold here are banknotes

  11. That's only 2 cops for each polling station in the country. Sounds normal. However, assigning 10,000 police to Bkk's 50 polling stations (200 for each) will leave the rest of the country short. It will probably mean a heyday for common criminals while police are distracted.

    common criminals ? but i thought the BIB are the............ I'm confused now.

  12. >>"Police found the wrecked and overturned bus and the wrecked van in the middle of road. The injured had already been sent to hospital."

    30 people taken to hospital and the police were not there yet? Wow, those police are right on top of things happening in Chiang Mai...coffee1.gif

    The vehicles were carrying European and Chinese passengers,the police were frightened that they would have to speak English. Leave it up to the doctors,they can file a report for us

  13. Amidst all the insults and piss taking going on here i find a less than real sympathy for the plight of the farmers being expressed on these pages.

    I live in a small village in Isan and i see the looks of desperation on the otherwise optimistic faces around me every day.

    Although i am interested in politics i will not and cannot take sides. I am, like you, a tolerated farang, the laws and the powers that be, don't allow us to take part in all this,our opinions are not wanted. Having said that, i feel its six to one and half a dozen to the other. Is Taksin corrupt and self serving? yes of course but he was the only one who took any notice of the poor (even though for his own motives of gaining power) he gave them a voice for the first time. Is Suthep right in pointing out, somewhat forcibly no doubt, that things have to change and that there is such a thing as the "dictatorship of the majority"? yes he is.

    They are trying to sort it out the Thai way,this is after all,Thailand. They need no help from us. I can't for the life of me understand the high feelings being expressed here,no one is blocking the streets of New York or London,Paris or Berlin.

    Remember the words of Tony Hankock : "I'm here to watch the walloping, not take part in it"

    If that is too flippant, then the words of the once Lord protector of England Oliver Cromwell : "I beseech thee from the bowels of Christ,consider, thou might be wrong"

    In those desperate faces in the village you will find the result of the "Yes he is corrupt but..." mentality.

    If thought finish, but I doubt many people did it boils down to:

    "Yes he corrupt, but if the takes from the others and it is good for me than I don't care."

    And now Thaksin is teaching them how it feels when someone is corrupt on their expenses and not on some unknown Bangkok middle class.

    Wounder if they give their vote still for sale or if they change their thinking.

    Yes,i can quite understand your point of view. Question, is it any different were we come from? Vote Labour and we will make sure that the pensions rise, vote Liberal and we will lower students fees,vote Tory and we will lower taxes. Come on now, we can all be bought,its a little more subtle where we come from,money doesn't change hands directly

  14. Amidst all the insults and piss taking going on here i find a less than real sympathy for the plight of the farmers being expressed on these pages.

    I live in a small village in Isan and i see the looks of desperation on the otherwise optimistic faces around me every day.

    Although i am interested in politics i will not and cannot take sides. I am, like you, a tolerated farang, the laws and the powers that be, don't allow us to take part in all this,our opinions are not wanted. Having said that, i feel its six to one and half a dozen to the other. Is Taksin corrupt and self serving? yes of course but he was the only one who took any notice of the poor (even though for his own motives of gaining power) he gave them a voice for the first time. Is Suthep right in pointing out, somewhat forcibly no doubt, that things have to change and that there is such a thing as the "dictatorship of the majority"? yes he is.

    They are trying to sort it out the Thai way,this is after all,Thailand. They need no help from us. I can't for the life of me understand the high feelings being expressed here,no one is blocking the streets of New York or London,Paris or Berlin.

    Remember the words of Tony Hankock : "I'm here to watch the walloping, not take part in it"

    If that is too flippant, then the words of the once Lord protector of England Oliver Cromwell : "I beseech thee from the bowels of Christ,consider, thou might be wrong"

    In those desperate faces in the village you will find the result of the "Yes he is corrupt but..." mentality.

    He presumably didn't have the benefits of your education,your 9 til 5 job, your travel experience, your access to unbiased news, your social insurance or your bank balance. Instead he had to make do with a village school education,daily indocrination about "Thainess", a few acres of land,a religion which cemented his belief in his place in the world, courage and self reliance.

    I wonder how you would be given the same start in life.

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  15. Amidst all the insults and piss taking going on here i find a less than real sympathy for the plight of the farmers being expressed on these pages.

    I live in a small village in Isan and i see the looks of desperation on the otherwise optimistic faces around me every day.

    Although i am interested in politics i will not and cannot take sides. I am, like you, a tolerated farang, the laws and the powers that be, don't allow us to take part in all this,our opinions are not wanted. Having said that, i feel its six to one and half a dozen to the other. Is Taksin corrupt and self serving? yes of course but he was the only one who took any notice of the poor (even though for his own motives of gaining power) he gave them a voice for the first time. Is Suthep right in pointing out, somewhat forcibly no doubt, that things have to change and that there is such a thing as the "dictatorship of the majority"? yes he is.

    They are trying to sort it out the Thai way,this is after all,Thailand. They need no help from us. I can't for the life of me understand the high feelings being expressed here,no one is blocking the streets of New York or London,Paris or Berlin.

    Remember the words of Tony Hankock : "I'm here to watch the walloping, not take part in it"

    If that is too flippant, then the words of the once Lord protector of England Oliver Cromwell : "I beseech thee from the bowels of Christ,consider, thou might be wrong"

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  16. 45,000 baht for 200 rai. We spend that on 1/10 the land for rubber, and are lucky to get 5 months tapping out of it.

    I was referring to only the chemical fertilizer, the natural fertilizers aren't free and involve a lot of hard work.

    Doing rubber must be a bitch, i believe the prices are controlled by Japan. Rice is controlled by the Chicago market and the Millers here. No free enterprise for farmers,we are screwed from when we get up till we go to bed.

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