DaveinAsia

NHRC is controlled by NCPO and most likely RTP. They have no real power whatsoever and therefor can't be taken seriously in this investigation. As for the copshop from back home that has turned up; does anyone on this forum actually believe that they are going to discredit the official outcome of this investigation? Wake up please. After Cameron met with the good General in Milano suddenly UK cops were allowed to come over to TH. This invitation was only granted with the guarantee that they would comply to the RTP's version of the story. By bringing in the UK cops, who of course are going to comply with the initial RTP version, they will silence all the people with doubts. If the UK cops say its so, it must be so. Somehow Brits here live in the illusion that our cops back home are any better than cops elsewhere. Lol. Those clowns back home have to answer to David Cameron f-f-s . Imagine for a few minutes while I make a coffee

There are many ways of torturing that leave no trace whatsoever....everybody knows this

X-ray results on Myanmar suspects show no traces of assaults

Hear, hear!

In Pattaya there is that story where some lump sum of THB 30'000 were shelled to avoid trouble in a Jomtien restaurant employing aliens illegally. Once that was settled the monthly "turn-the-head-the-other-way-round-fee" is THB 1'500. Combined with the THB 500 the alien pays ......... just wondering where all that money goes

Nice big houses for themselves and their families

It wouldn't surprise me if this trial never sees the inside of a court

Easy to doctor images.. Is this what he did during his week in hiding? Find "paid" witnesses and create stories.

If he was innocent why didn't he surrender immediately.

Get the whole family DNA tested independently, not in Thailand.

Easy to doctor DNA results if they are not carried out by an independent body

Here in sunny Jomtien the rubbish is collected every day from my Condo- but I have no idea what happens to it. I see no reason why there cannot be recycling bins- in the UK you are threatened with a £1000 ( 50,000 baht) fine if you do not recycle .

I seem to generate a huge amount of rubbish- mostly bottles, aluminium cans , stunning amounts of plastic packaging, and food waste- much of this could easily be recycled . It could also bring in some income for the condo.

However don't just blame the Thai mentality- its everywhere. I moved from what was once a pleasant green leafy suburb in London - that every night became strewn with fast food boxes, bottles, cans, syringes.

Education is the key- and a pride in your surroundings

We have been seperating our rubbish for years already, but then again we live in a house. I made a few big containers for glass, plastic bottles and cans. When they are full the recycling guy picks it up for free because he sells it to the recycling station. Every town, neighborhood has one.

 

 

 

Bangkok was ranked the world's most visited city with nearly 16 million people travelling to the Thai capital, ahead of London and Paris

 

 

sorry but London had 28 millions visitors and Paris 26 millions ..... I wonder where they got their information .

They may have got it from Forbes http://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewbender/2013/06/07/bangkok-tops-the-worlds-10-most-visited-cities/

 

 

Ha Ha. The source data quoted in Forbes comes from MasterCard and is quoted by numerous news providers. I couldn't find mention of the 28 million mentioned in laurentbkk's post anywhere on the net. Even London's own advertising agency only claims 16 million. It seems that the OP is correct (or at least verifiable) unlike certain TV poster's claims:-)

 

If you believe Forbes and numerous mainstream news providers are reliable sources I suppose you also believe Forbes richest people list which most people in the world know to be far from the truth. Time to wake up buddy

Yer man in question is a doctor and probably from a reputable family and everyone in Thailand knows that these people never really do time for whatever crime they commit, let alone face a death sentence. Most likely it was just handed down to him to make it seem that the justice system is unbiased but we all know better

Quote Jewell49 - Yes great guys then we would have all the 'western weathly nations ' populated with millions and millions of people who have nothing to offer and then the ' wealthy western nations ' would be your new third world, great system

Kind of funny that a farang who lives in Thailand would say this. Perhaps this is one of the reasons why many Thais despise farangs because we can travel freely all over the globe but they are subjected to the visa nazis of American/Ozzie/European countries, even if they just want to go on holiday for a few weeks. You are typically a Westerner who likes the divide in the world between the haves and have nots but at the same time you like living in a third world country because your money is worth more here. Maybe Thailand should select farangs by their life philosophy in the future instead of by looking at their bookbank. If you look down on have nots the way you do you obviously don't belong here

 

 

Well, we don't accept it either when immigration rules are abused or exploited in our home countries, there's no reasons Thailand should be more lax.

 
speak for yourself I would like to see all immigration rules scrapped worldwide - that way populations could migrate to areas better able to support them - and it would level out the disparity of wealth between people in different countries.   I dont believe that any government should have the right to tell anyone where they can or cannot live - I would rather consider myself a citizen of the world

Absolutly. I demand also the free world. We live in times of globalisation, a smaller world were one can say something on the internet and the whole world can read and answer instantly. The internet is 2014, but the whole visa bs worldwide is absolutly stoneage. I hope we free and independent thinkers in the world win one day against the visa nazis.

 

Love and peace bro

 

Bangkok was ranked the world's most visited city with nearly 16 million people travelling to the Thai capital, ahead of London and Paris

 

 

sorry but London had 28 millions visitors and Paris 26 millions ..... I wonder where they got their information .

They may have got it from Forbes http://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewbender/2013/06/07/bangkok-tops-the-worlds-10-most-visited-cities/

 

Lite Beer I am sorry!!

 

But why publish yet ANOTHER newspaper-story, for what reason?? This will only fuel once again all the people that have a hardtime to understand

and value the present situation.

 

Plse plse enlighten me so that I understand for what reason you took the work to publish already to 100% known facts...

 

Glegolo

Well, it seems quite clear that TV has been 'selected' by The General to put the wind up farangs who are on overstay and the retired/wealthy legal farangs are doing a good job enforcing this message. I wonder how many 20k's have been collected the last few weeks 

The title of the article should read "Holiday in Thailand could end for expats who VIOLATE Visa laws"    I say more power to the government in enforcing its visa laws, those expats who do not abide by them should be kicked out of the country   I just wish that the U.S. had leadership that would enforce our visa/immigration laws

...and then you woke up

Immigration is going to be making many many 20k overstay's. Perhaps that's their intention

Call me pessimistic if you want, no worries, but Thailand is not going to change anything within 20-30 years. To implement these wonderful changes the General has in mind would mean deleting Thai culture, locking up half of the population, overhauling the entire educational system, reforming the tax system and making the rich pay their duties, etc, etc. How on earth are they going to do all this? How are they going to change the populations minds? How can you change a rather egoistical person who only cares about his/her own family into an all loving being who cares about the whole country/world? I'm off to have another nap. Just thinking about all this made me tired

Ah ! The Miserable Git Brigade. Seems to be rather large numbers of them here. Karma gets 'em in the end though; we had one in our village who would never speak a word to anyone and suddenly he got very ill and went into Hospital....nobody except his wife visited him. He then died and his wife had to go around begging the neighbours to go to his funeral because there were no mourners.

Thats a typical British comment to make. Just because some guy decided to live a different lifestyle than yours(hanging in the bars, watching tv, living a pretty useless life)he is a miserable git. Maybe the guy had a very lively life before surrounded by lots of people and he became fed up with it after 50 years and just wanted some peace and quiet. Why do halfwits never try to put themselves in someone elses shoes? If they are not the same as you then they are categorized as weirdo's, freaks, miserable, etc. You could've tried approaching him whilst you lived in the same village and asked him what his story was. So blame yourself too trainman.

About the gym guys not being polite; sounds familiar. The gym can have that effect on certain individuals. They are only focused on working out and that's why they visit the gym, not to socialise. For that they go to the gay sauna's Just kidding mate. Gyms are so unnatural anyway. I recommend to stay away from them. Go for a run in the park, it's free.

I don't think tests have much to do with the equation. I've been in a roomful of young Thais, all taking tests for driving license. Thais are rather good at passing tests. Similar to learning English. They can pass the test, somewhat, but how adept are they at speaking the language? You tell me.

Whether or not they know the rules of the road, they've got that basic selfishness to deal with. like; 'me first, and the heck with everyone else.' attitude.

I have a mantra, when I'm driving in Thailand: 'rudeness or ignorance? How much of one, how much the other?' ....or perhaps it's more like a zen koan.

perhaps you should try the mantra of giving the good example...goes much further. after many years of research i found out that it's not selfishness of drivers but pure unawareness....or ignorance. call it what you want. but there is only one way to deal with driving here, if you are one of those obsessed farang drivers who wants to teach bad drivers to be better drivers; stop trying to win on the road by being nasty too but always drive as a perfect gentleman and show people the right way...that's the only way brother...and I'm starting tomorrow morning. it's time to stop fighting. love is the only way forward. bless

I'm sure Thailand is frequented by loads of famous people all the time.

Who really gives a rats ass? Go and buy yourself a copy of The Sun <deleted>, lol.

Any real topics today? Yellows, Olympics, trucks with massive speakers driving through the soi constantly blasting out Isaan techno and promoting some corrupt politician.....

Lol, this forum is becoming more and more infested with people who really believe that they know exactly what's happening or otherwise make it up as they go along.

Possibly but it is a bloody performance to get a Passport from your own country.

(Reply to Soutpeel)

I am going to make a rather selfish comment..... sorry......glad I got mine back on the 2nd Jan, as it would seem the SS have taken over the pp office in recent weeks

so hopefully no worries for next 5-7 years and by that time all the rules it will have all changed again anyway, maybe have to send a certified DNA sample next time LOL

One suspects this issue will work itself out same as when HK started up and they said you had to send your original pp to HK until some pointed out that their own website said you need to have your pp in Thailand and then a quick about face and a copy of the data page was good enough

SS indeed. If it's up to David Cameron and his Orwellian government we will all be chipped and labelled by 2020 ;-)

Why not just send your old passport to a relative/friend in the UK with one item (I have a birth cert for instance) and have them post your handwritten downloaded application and docs to the passport office in the UK, then have them (friend/relative) send by registered post back to you here in Thailand? Seems less hassle/cheaper to me.

sir

even easier,give to a visa company and for the sum of 10,000 baht,they do all the work,i have done this recently

this is only for the extremely lazy, rich or simple

The only reason why the government wants an evidence of residence is to know exactly where you are!!

Before they had no control of their overseas citizens and didn't know where they were.

Another act of freedom robbing.

Resistance is futile, you will be assimilated

sir

If one more dole scrounger gets caught,thats got to be good news,freedom robbing is no problem if one is not a criminal

what are you mumbling on about...sir? calm down now and open your first beer mate. it's almost 4

off topic bs

Update about proof of address. After a few weeks of waiting, calls and emails I finally received an email back today saying this about proof of address:

PO3 Customer Contact Centre
Operations

Her Majesty's Passport Office
Nexus House l Mission Court l Newport l NP20 2DW
Swyddfa Basbort Ei Mawrhydi
Tŷ Nexus l Mission Court l Casnewydd l NP20 2DW

I only sent a copy of my current extension of stay and the data page of my current full PP, and got my new pp back from the UK 2nd Jan

Their courier is DHL and yes the pp will arrive safely, my last visa for Thailand was some 9 years ago and have been on extensions for employment...so dont panic,

talking to somebody else i know, the table A, covers a multitude of sins including new applications not just renewal, and the table assumes someone is resident in the UK, hence the references to school records/baptism certificates, in other words some sort of evidence of your connection with UK, if they choose to check, to ensure new applicants are entitled to a UK passport....basically they have cut and pasted this table from somewhere else, it hasnt been drawn up for oversea's applicants

With a renewal, you have already been vetted and in the system, so a copy of your full or expiring PP fullfills the photo evidence, and the visa or extension of stay fullfills the name and address evidence it appears

This is very interesting, as I was told the opposite when I phoned up the helpline recently.

Since we're required to keep our passports with us at all times, I was told I'd need to send full-colour photocopies of each page of my current passport - all 48 pages! I am not allowed to send the original passport itself.

So under the "Photo Evidence", I wasn't able to offer anything that they'd accept.

The guy on the phone explicitly stated that the colour photocopies would NOT be accepted as ID, that I am not allowed to post my current passport as ID, and that they can't accept a previous expired passport as ID.

The only other photo-ID I have is a UK photo card driving license, which expired in November because it's illegal for me to renew it while living abroad. He said they can't accept that either, as it's expired.

For the "Name and address evidence" I offered a copy of my current lease, but was told this wouldn't be acceptable either. I pointed out that "visa or resident permit" were listed and ought to be allowed, but he said that this would NOT be accepted if it doesn't bear my full address.

He suggested sending a utility bill, but my bills are in the name of the owner of the condo that I rent.

So it looks like I have to fly back to the UK in order to renew. What a joke.

Soutpeel is probably right when I think about it now. The people that work in customer service are absolutely useless! They know nothing. I also called last week and the guy I spoke with didn't have a clue. They have all your info already if you are applying for a renewal. I would just chance it mate. Don't let these so-called guidelines made up by Whitehall politrickians scare you into buying a ticket back home to renew your little red book. Send copies of your pp, a few photos, app form and a cheque or cc autorisation form. All will be well, Soutpeel is right

So pleased to learn that some are independently wealthy !

I pay tax because my occupational pension derives from the UK and exceeds the tax threshold by many thousands of pounds.

Being "self sufficient" ( what does that mean ?) and needing assistance from the UK government for a passport renewal is a fact of life if one is British.

If you somehow believe the service to be substandard posting here will not secure any change .

Oh ---------and less of the "old timer" abuse please.

The service is non-existent mate. They don't even have the common decency to have a consulate for their citizens overseas.

What kind of country doesn't care about their citizens? Think about it for a while.

Especially for people like yourself that are still paying taxes and most likely worked hard for 30 years or more and contributed to the UK economy. They treat you like a second class citizen too.

To them it makes no difference if you are a law abiding citizen or a dole abuser.

I am surprised that you don't think this service is way below substandard! Unless you are ex-civil servant industry... or other government related work.

TV is a forum for expats to express all kinds of opinions, feelings, information and whatever else. Many people that post something are not wanting to change anything, they just want to express their discontent with something and many couldn't care less what happens back 'home'. I am one of them and I don't want to change anything over there. Why even bother? The country is run by a bunch of bankers and elitists.

I am also surprised that you see old timer as abuse! It just means old fashioned.