Dogmatix

An old revolutionary decree fallen into abeyance that was revived by Thaksin as part of his social orde campaign.

2,000 to 20,000 fine. Why bother that is not a punishment.

The NACC has also said it intends to follow up the criminal case with a civil case to recover some of the nation's losses. That could result in all her assets in Thailand being confiscated and she can be tried in absentia in a civil case, just like the case where her brother was fined B46 billion.

I think the fines in the Penal Code have not been amended since the 50s when that was a lot of money. She will also get a further 5-year ban from politics, if convicted and sentenced to prison.

Dubai here she comes.

A US consular official in Mexico told me that when they complained to local police about cops arresting gringo tourists on fake charges and driving them around in a marked police car to withdraw money from ATMs until their accounts were exhausted, the police just said, "How do you know these were real police?"

The Thai police now seem to be playing the same game. The Thonglor commander seems to have suggested to journalists a couple of times that the shake downs going on in his precinct must be the work of either fake police or police from other precincts. It's incredible that police would think that allowing fake police or police from other precincts to extort members of the public in their precinct is good policing.

The story about the Australian tourist being harassed all night by police who tried to fit him up for cocaine possession and attempted to make him sign a confession in Thai, pretending it was a release document, is very scary.

A Thai fried told me about a bunch of rich young friends of hers who were stopped and searched in a car in Thonglor in the wee hours after partying. One of the girls was found with an ecstacy tablet in her handbag and the police demanded B80,000. When she and the other kids said they didn't have the money, they were told to wake up their parents and get the money from them or be stuck in jail. Thereupon the girl offered them her diamond ring which she said was worth B150,000. the cops accepted the ring and the kids drove off hooting with laughter that the cops had taken a fake diamond ring worth B500. Rich kids 1 - Thonglor police 0.

The article is not quite clear on the process from here. It sounds as if Yingluck failed to show up to answer the NLA questions which had not been submitted in advance but could be largely guessed at as they just enlarged on the questions already put to her by the NACC. Instead she sent some other people to answer the questions and after a heated debate behind closed doors the NLA refused to allow this. Therefore the NLA decided to publish the questions but there is no second chance for Yingluck to come and answer them and the NLA is free to conclude that by refusing to answer she is guilty, just like a motorist who refuses a breath test. She can cover the points in her concluding remarks but the NLA is free to disregard that since she refused to answer the questions in person when she had the opportunity. That's my take.

I guess she is tempted to give the 3 fingers.

As she has the option not to appear why should she? Likely she is going to get the agreed 5 years ban from politics.

No doubt the juntas opposition is already grooming another person(s) to become the PM of a genuinely elected government whenever that may be.

Phanthongthae Shinawatra is the next cab on the rank.

You gotta love the pic with the heading "republic" and the main sign on the float in Thai only.

The whole thing is clearly aimed at the domestic audience. It probably looked very colourful and impressive on TV to audiences in Si Saket and Buriram.

Unfortunately it does nothing whatsoever to promote foreign tourism and is a complete waste of taxpayers' money. Arriving tourists would just wonder it took them 3 hours to get their hotels.

The arguments against scrapping these long delayed law have no merit whatsoever. Selling single sticks encourages children to start smoking. It doesn't help people who are already addicted to the stupid and obnoxious habit give it up. What nonsense.

Please enact the law forthwith, generals.

To help understand some of the bitter, unpleasant and downright rude posts in this thread we need to remember that men only ever lose property after a divorce in Thailand. In other countries couples generally live together forever - or if they do part - the wife walks away with nothing more than her make-up bag and the wedding photo album.

It works out as a good system to protect the property rights of Thai women who divorce or separate from Thai partners. No acrimonious disputes about who gets what. The ex-wife automatically gets the house.

Unless the OP is a Thai citizen it sounds more like he just donated some land rather than purchased it. LOL.

No remorse in his face or body language.

Why do he do a boxer stance? He uses knife nowadays.

A known history of violence, another one of Pattaya's finest.

This city can really draw the finest people both from overseas and locally like a fly on a turd.

Saw this jerk giving his version of events on TV news. No way he would pass a polygraph test.

Perhaps they should shoot the next season of "Survivor" on the island. Never before has the winner earned their prize money more deservedly and as close as to the show's title as it gets.

Suggest some attractive female participants should be required to go drinking alone at AC Bar and go out on the boat with Shark's Tooth until there is only one left. Would make great TV ratings.

Can remember before the 1987 constitution when elections were organised by the Interior Ministry that Thai media always used to emphasise the built in advantage in elections of any party that controlled the ministry, since it was assumed that the ministry organised them in a corrupt manner..

Didn't understand what Uncle Too was doing with puppet that was described as a frog prince puppet by that other English language paper.

Yes I agree with the others that said, something have fueled the anger of the street vendors.

Okay no excuses of beating up the guy but at least they didn't use knifes.

Be polite and respectful and this is very unlikely to happen.

It was nice of them not to stab him but they used a stout stick that could have killed him or caused head injuries.

Samui court head judge just asked both Zaw Lin and Wai Phyo: If u not involved in this crime, tell us who is. Dont be scared. how can a judge asked this?

I mentioned in another thread that judges in Thailand in criminal cases have tremendous scope to ask what they like, to allow and disallow what evidence and witnesses they feel are relevant or not and to direct or curtail examination from lawyers.

I am unable to believe that the judge has not had discussions with senior police and political figures given the publicity surrounding this case.

If this case is reported in its entirety, you will see a lot stranger things than this but most of it will be in the form of omission and not allowing certain evidence.

Pro-Somyot posters have led us to believe that this will resemble an adversarial trial as one might see in the UK. One of their favourite phrases is a "vigorous defence". I think what you will see will be closer to a pantomime.

I taught some Thai judges who told me this.

If the people weren't guilty, why would the police charge them with the crime and send them to trial.

Nuff said.

Thai justice in a nutshell.

A Thai criminal lawyer once told me it's not that easy to bribe a judge. You can't just go direct to him and offer him cash, as you would a policeman, he said. You have to find a conduit, such as someone who as at university with him and make the offer indirectly through that person.

Perhaps he was just trying to justify his lawyer's fees by making it sound more complicated than it really is.

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The burning questions (s) are - IMO

WHO did harass Hannah at AC Bar?

What are the testimonies of Hannah & David's friends?

Did Hannah suffer a gunshot wound?

I saw Crime Photos on the Internet, before they removed them, and no, Hannah did not suffer a gunshot wound. That Beautiful Girls

Head looked lop-sided as the left side of her head was bashed in by some club.

I doubt there friends could contribute anything. After the bar they all proceeded home separately, including David and Hannah. The mystery and reason behind that is that they didn't want there friends to know that they obviously planned to meet secretly later, on the beach. With both of them travelling with friends from back home, and perhaps both having a BF or GF back home, they did not want to chance that someone would find out about there secret meeting, and tell.

I have had several GF who were harassed in a bar while I went to the toilet for example, and none of them turned up dead. I am sure many other posters can say the same. It is worth taking a second look at this person, which I am sure the police have done, so I assume he was cleared of any wrong doing.

There is also a strong possibility that they weren't feigning lack of interest in each other for the benefit of their friends but genuinely had no romantic interest in each other and didn't plan to meet secretly at the beach.

You cannot tell from the photographs whether there was a gunshot wound or not prior to the wounds caused by the hoe.

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These are the UK MET findings!

All they got was a police interpreter verbally translating some limited of their evidence (probably in incomprehensible broken English). LOL

So they got much less information about the evidence than the police had already disbursed in their multiple press conferences and Facebook accounts. That was a really good use of British taxpayers' money.

So the FCO's PR department deliberately distorted the facts to make it sound as if the evidence that was described as "powerful and convincing" by David's family had been conveyed to the families by British police who had in the process endorsed it, as did by implication, the British government, which is how it was reported in Yhai mainstream media?

British police are now being made to look bad but in reality they were probably quite open with the families that they were unable to do anything at all in Thailand, except be read aloud selections of the police evidence that had already been reported in much greater detail in Thai media. The spin, which appears to be nothing less than a deliberate attempt to pervert the course of justice in a death penalty trial to the disadvantage of the accused seems to have come from the FCO which allowed itself to be manipulated by the prosecution. As a UK taxpayer I would like to see a detailed investigation as to how and why this happened. Some resignations or, at least, transfers to inactive positions would be appropriate.