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Human's time on this planet is far overdue.

They are the most idiotic result of evolution, because they have a "developed" brain, my a*rse.

Unfortunately the majority have not progressed beyond this way of thinking.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3b4_1468533737

Dear God who ever would have thought we'd see something like this in a European city nowadays? The blame lies squarely on the US for creating ISIS, who never existed before they invaded Iraq which set off yet more bombings in of the Middle East, and that idiot Merkel, who just this week admitted 'there may be jihadists among the refugees' she warmly embraced. Ya think? All wrapped up in the US imported insanity that is political correctness for refusing to report the facts, 'the driver'. Well it wasn't bloody Bert from Leytonstone was it.

Islam is a religion not ISIS, who are using Islam to further their particular agenda. However, it's about time the muslim silent majority actually took to the streets to condemn these atrocities being perpetrated in their name. Their silence is deafening.

It's deafening because large majorities of Muslims agree with the violence...ask a Muslim in the Middle East (and in many Muslim communities in the West) what should be done to gays or "apostates" or women who engage in premarital sex, or even drive a car and you'll have your answer. Google "Pew Survey Muslim Attitudes" and you will discover all you need to know about these phantom "moderate" and "peaceful" Muslims...there basically aren't any.

Try asking some Christians what should happen to gay people and you will get similar responses to those of a Muslim persuation; especially if you ask some right wing American Christians.

Birds of a feather and all that.

What the hell is it with Europe and UK letting in so many muzzlims?

Either they can't interpret data, or they can't analyse the history of Islam and Christianity in Europe.

It's too late to turn off the tap now.

They just blend in..and then every time they emerge…it's one life of theirs for about 80-100 of ours.

The new normal.

Not sure what Marine Le Pen and Trump will do if swept to power….short of enacting some sort of pogrom.

Even more terrible times on the horizon.

Agree with your post but taking into consideration Muslim family planning (or lack of!), won't be long till the US has a huge Muslim standing too.

Many US states already have a considerable Muslim population too if I'm right. Hamtramck, Michigan being the obvious that springs to mind.

The big difference between the US and EU is the Atlantic Ocean otherwise the US would have similar problems. Some are too blind to acknowledge this. It is far easier for immigrants from the Middle East and Africa to stream into Europe than it is the US. Let's not forget that the US was founded on immigration. Admittedly mainly European immigrants and African slaves but immigrants none the less. Let's not blame immigration when the problem is clearly not immigration.

Immigration needs to evolve with the realities of the times we live in…this isn't Ellis Island….give me your tired, your hopeless…doesn't apply any more.

The people doing this in Europe are not tourists…they are muslim immigrants or children of long time muslim immigrants.

Trump is right…this thing needs to be shut down for a while till some sort of plan can be drawn up.

Shutting down immigration will not stop 1st, 2nd or 3rd generation immigrants carrying out these types of attrocities.

You need to come up with a better plan than a reality TV Trump plan.

What the hell is it with Europe and UK letting in so many muzzlims?

Either they can't interpret data, or they can't analyse the history of Islam and Christianity in Europe.

It's too late to turn off the tap now.

They just blend in..and then every time they emerge…it's one life of theirs for about 80-100 of ours.

The new normal.

Not sure what Marine Le Pen and Trump will do if swept to power….short of enacting some sort of pogrom.

Even more terrible times on the horizon.

Agree with your post but taking into consideration Muslim family planning (or lack of!), won't be long till the US has a huge Muslim standing too.

Many US states already have a considerable Muslim population too if I'm right. Hamtramck, Michigan being the obvious that springs to mind.

The big difference between the US and EU is the Atlantic Ocean otherwise the US would have similar problems. Some are too blind to acknowledge this. It is far easier for immigrants from the Middle East and Africa to stream into Europe than it is the US. Let's not forget that the US was founded on immigration. Admittedly mainly European immigrants and African slaves but immigrants none the less. Let's not blame immigration when the problem is clearly not immigration.

WOW. This will never end. RIP to the deceased.

We really have to face the fact that these people are waging a war on Western Society. We can argue until the cows come home about who's responsible, who and why it started, and the level of support they enjoy amongst the Muslim population. The fact remains that they believe that they are at war. Wars end when one side comprehensively defeats the other. We can either accept defeat, or defeat them. There really is no other option.

They're not waging war against the West. They are waging war against anyone who doesn't follow their extreme (and probably accurate) interpretation of the Qoran. These types are killing many more Muslims on a daily basis in Muslim countries than they are killing Westerners.

The whole civilized world is at risk from religious zelots of all persuations.

Hey guys!

I just want to say thank you for bombing my country in the 90's to protect innocent Albanians.

This is the thanks you get from the religion of peace.

Laterz!

I maybe need a history lesson but, I seem to remember that it was in your Country that the whole Balkan thing kicked off. Milosovic went down there a committed Communist and returned a Nationalist hero.

Of course it was many years after that that "we" bombed your Country because of the Albanian problem. That all happened after "we" had to intervene to stop the Catholic Croats, Muslim Bosniaks and the Orthodox Serbs from killing each other for mainly nationalistic reasons but obviously religion played its part in forming those identities. I seem to remember atrocities committed by both sides but the Orthodox Serbs took things to a whole new level.

So when you say religion of peace, which one are you talking about? IMO they all have the ability to make good people do horrific things. Obviously the one presenting the biggest threat to the progress of civilization at the moment is Islam but there are plenty of other extremists of different religions out there just now who would like nothing better than to bring on Armageddon so that they can meet their maker.

Laterz!

Extremely graphic video of aftermath of attack

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlRHx3vS-Ew

The French government has asked everybody to NOT post pictures of movies of the scene online.

I don't understand why? Europeans have never seen the massacre after the shooting in the cinema in Paris, it was not broadcasted because too cruel for their weak hearts.

How much more cruel can this war get? They are just waiting for the next one, like sitting ducks.

One of the most ridiculous posts I have ever seen on TVF.

They don't want people posting as it is a propaganda boost for the perpetrators not to mention that victims families may see them.

European's have been at war for centuries so they are not unused to seeing carnage and bloodshed. Nothing to do with weak hearts. Europe has seen terrorism for decades now. You do know that terrorism wasn't invented on 9/11?

Does anyone on this thread think that Halloween or Rubl actually have any experience of working with the military whether in there own country or another country? I can tell you that I have had plenty. From privates right up to Major Generals and I can tell you that I have met very few who would be competent enough to run a privete company let alone a country. I guess they are the types who fall for the type of propoganda you get in the UK and probably most other countries that tells them that the military is the best. Believe me... they are far from the best and should never be allowed to make decisions that affect nations.

I went to a place at Mahatun Plaza. Just along from Sukhumvit. Lek Optical. I would highly recommend them.

I got glasses around 10 years ago. Around 8 years ago I had laser surgery. I have now had to admit defeat and get glasses again as my right eye has deteriorated so much. My left is is still quite good but not 100%.

I went to 2 different optitions at Esplanade on Ratchada. 1st one was pretty thourough but when she put the lenses in the test pair of glasses something wasn't right. I didn't feel comfortable. That was the end of the eye test. The lady didn't speak much English and I couldn't get across that the lenses didn't feel right. Went to another place in the same mall who gave me the most basic eye test then told me my prescription and expected my to buy glasses just from that. No testing lenses to see what was right for me.

Later i was in Mahatun Plaza to get some translation work done. I had 20 mins to waste and popped into Lek Optical. The guy in there was briliant. He did evrrything I would have expected. Tested my eyes on the machine then tried me with different lenses. Once he had determined which lenses I needed he put them in a test pair of glasses and when I tried them on he asked many questions and adjusted each lense until I was 100% happy. His English was great and it made everything so much easier. They are not cheap and I paid 8,000 THB for my glasses which had Nike frames. I'm sure I could have got them cheaper in the UK but I am not in the UK and was happy to pay a bit over the odds as the people in the shop made me feel comfortable and I could communicate well with them.

Like you I have no probkem seeing things at a distance but close up I struggle. My glasses have made a huge difference and will help me a lot when I return to work.

I have attached a photo of rhe business card they gave me

Good luck.

Edit to add that they do lenses also.

U.K. will be much better in the long run. Look Swizerland and Norway, much better as EU.

Did you study their deals with the EU in terms of accepting EU laws, making contributions to the EU budget and accepting free movement of people?

Switzerland workforce is 20% immigrants against 10% for the UK so we have a fair way to go to catch them up yet.

But they count people from neighboring countries as immigrants, same language, same religion.

If the UK were to count Welsh, Scots and Irish as immigrants what would the figures be?

Well when UK would get rid on social burden it has again great future , all answers go to compare with Switzerland --how about Norway? Not in EU and much better trade. Iceland? Don't worry UK will come now much better, now there can trade free with no rules from EU dictatorship

What social burden? Our contribution to the EU amounted to 1% of UK tax revenue. Most of that 1% came back in grants and our rebate. UK science received twice as much in funding than was contributed by the UK.

Our local and national government spend 99% of our tax revenues so I think that is where people should have been focussing their anger about waste. As usual when we can blame the scary foreigners we go for that option and cut our nose off to spite our face.

As for Norway maybe you should do some reading. How much do they pay to gain access to the single market? Do they have a seat at the table when decisions are made? Do they have to allow free movement of people? Do the have to stick to all those pesky EU regulations we were so desperate to rid ourselves of?

Not really a conspiracy. I think there has never been a lot of effort put into registering people who work away from their home villages for any kind of vote. In Thailand these are overwhelmingly poor people from farming areas who go to cities for any kind of job that pays. I don't think that encouraging these people to vote was ever a priority for the unelected governments.

Have they ever been a priority for elected governments? Aren't they the people who were supposed to elect a light pole for BKK governor?

" The junta has been encouraging people to read the new charter, to register to vote, and to vote, without propagandists getting to spew their crap."

Yes, they have been very encouraging in making sure a vigorous public debate has taken place, where they have encouraged all aeguments for and against the charter to be heard.

555555555! Do you even believe the <deleted> you're posting??

" I explain their indifference by trust, whereas you don't seem to have an explanation."

Uh, did you read my post at all? Try one more time and if you,re still unable to grasp what I wrote I will send you a PM.

" BTW the election will be after the new charter is installed. The junta won't be on the ballot. "

Why on earth would they be on the ballot since the suggested charter will ensure they will remain in power anyway???

It's called making up your own mind, not listening to others who might be biased, if not paid to spread misinformation. How do you have a vigorous public debate and exclude propagandists?

Oh your claim that the election will be rigged? Which explains the thousands taking to the streets in protest, or not. You see, if they don't care to vote because the referendum is rigged, and the don't bother to protest that rigging, then it seems obvious that they don't care IF it is rigged. Didn't that occur to you?

Remain in power? That's one way of looking as stopping the Shinawatras from gaining it again.

"It's called making up your own mind"

Don't you think the Thai people should be allowed to listen to arguments both for and against the charter and then make up their own minds? After all from what little we hear it seems that both the dems and PT are against the charter. If the PM is so confident in the charter it should withstand debate.

I understand your hatred of the Shinawatras. If I had my vote they wouldn't be my first choice but they were the choice of the Thai people many times over. That was when they were allowed to make their own minds up and not be dictated to at the barrel of a gun/tank.

I'm no "Engineering expert", nor do i know anything about electrical engineering, but common sense tells me:

If the transformer in the charger gets fried or is not assembled properly, the 220v coming from the socket can then travel through the cord into the phone causing a surge.

Please someone correct me if I'm wrong?

Yes you are wrong. The charger you get with a phone gives a 5VDC output. The incomer to the charger is mains voltage but not on the output.

If governments cannot protect an airport from attack , how can they protect their citizens,

They can't and they never will. Not without a represive police state which I would hope none of us want.

So many smug brexiteers are going to be so disappointed when they realise they've been lied to. The out politicians are already admitting that any new trade deals are going to involve free movement of labour. They've already admitted the £350 million a week was a lie and it won't be spent on the NHS. They had the nerve to play on peoples fears on immigration yet accuse remain of being project fear. Nigel Farage has achieved his dream of getting UK out of EU. Such a shame there may not be a UK for much longer.

After reading the full article have learned the right cop died.

Read it again knucklehead..

I think it is you who needs to read it again. Off duty cop 1 who was refused entry, went to car for pistol. Returned and pistol whipped moonlighting cop then fired into the air. Another off duty cop went to investigate the pistol shot, approached off duty cop 1 who opened his pick up door and fired at off duty cop 2 at close range. Off duty cop 2 slotted off duty cop 1, 3 times.

The right guy bought it in the end.

Edit: Apologies. I read it wrong. The right guy is critical. The wrong guy is dead. Shame.

L/Cpl Wongsathon = CopA = Member of group intending to enter Haophan restaraunt

Sen Sgt Maj Nattachai = CopB = Cop moonlighting as security at Haophan

Lt Thamarong = CopC = Cop dining nearby

CopA with friends attempts to enter Haophan but is refused by CopB because no ID.

CopB follows departing group and asks questions. CopA pulls out gun and strikes CopB to the head and fires shot in air. [First act of physical violence + gunshot by CopA]

CopB runs back to restaraunt.

CopC comes to investigate gun shot; approaches CopA who is sitting in pickup truck. CopA opens car door and fires at CopC hitting him. CopC returns fire into pickup truck hitting CopA 3 times. [First gunshot at person: CopA firing at CopC]

Deceased person, CopA, found slumped in pickup truck. CopC injured with one gunshot wound next to pickup truck.

CopA, deceased:

- pistol whipped CopB and brought firearm into fray.

- fired shot first at CopC hitting CopC

Yes, the right cop died.

I read it the same as you harry, but on review the article says:

“Both men were taken to Vachira Phuket Hospital, where Lt Thamarong was pronounced dead on arrival and L/Cpl Wongsathon remains in critical condition,”

Wongsathon was the instigator. Another poster has said that he is now dead so he got what was coming to him in the end. It's just a shame that the other cop died also.

After reading the full article have learned the right cop died.

Read it again knucklehead..

I think it is you who needs to read it again. Off duty cop 1 who was refused entry, went to car for pistol. Returned and pistol whipped moonlighting cop then fired into the air. Another off duty cop went to investigate the pistol shot, approached off duty cop 1 who opened his pick up door and fired at off duty cop 2 at close range. Off duty cop 2 slotted off duty cop 1, 3 times.

The right guy bought it in the end.

Edit: Apologies. I read it wrong. The right guy is critical. The wrong guy is dead. Shame.

Despite the fact they were fleeing a fight, they hit the truck. Their fault.

The truck is not in the wrong lane. They drive on the left in Thailand. Whether he used his indicator when he was making the manouvre is another question but the folks on the bike were overtaking at speed in their effort to escape.

Jesise Christ man your post is both hilarious and mind boggling at the same time, yes they do drive on the left in Thailand.

But he was turning right which means he should have been in the right lane.

If he was turning left than he should have been in the left lane.

He was obviously in the left lane making a right turn.

You need to watch the video again. This is a single carriageway road with traffic going in each direction not a dual carriageway where both lanes are travelling in the same direction. If you pull into on coming traffic on a single carriageway when you are turning right then that is mind boggling but definitely not hilarious. I hope I never have the misfortune to be sharing the same road as you if that is how you drive.

I stand corrected, you are right, I missed the car coming in the opposite direction. I did think it was a one way road. Time to go see an optometrist I think. Thanks for pointing out my error.

Duhhhh.

Despite the fact they were fleeing a fight, they hit the truck. Their fault.

The truck is not in the wrong lane. They drive on the left in Thailand. Whether he used his indicator when he was making the manouvre is another question but the folks on the bike were overtaking at speed in their effort to escape.

Jesise Christ man your post is both hilarious and mind boggling at the same time, yes they do drive on the left in Thailand.

But he was turning right which means he should have been in the right lane.

If he was turning left than he should have been in the left lane.

He was obviously in the left lane making a right turn.

You need to watch the video again. This is a single carriageway road with traffic going in each direction not a dual carriageway where both lanes are travelling in the same direction. If you pull into on coming traffic on a single carriageway when you are turning right then that is mind boggling but definitely not hilarious. I hope I never have the misfortune to be sharing the same road as you if that is how you drive.

Despite the fact they were fleeing a fight, they hit the truck. Their fault.

The truck is not in the wrong lane. They drive on the left in Thailand. Whether he used his indicator when he was making the manouvre is another question but the folks on the bike were overtaking at speed in their effort to escape.

By the OP's own admission he doesn't know the time or date, doesn't know anything about planes, thinks planes can float, crossed a city in seconds but with no engine noise, but he knows for a fact it was MH 370.

Says it all doesn't it?

I'm calling BS on this story. The BBC had a story about 3D crossings in India a few weeks ago so it isn't Thai innovation. Good idea if the drivers new what the purpose of the crossing was.

Transom: Amazing how people will come up with some strange argument.....nowhere did I mention animals and reincarnation....you will be into fleas and Mosquitos next.....all these things do not have a soul.

And there we have it. That crazy notion that out of all the life on Earth we humans are the special ones. The only ones with souls. The soul is a construct of the human brain. Nothing more nothing less. Open you mind to reality. It is far more wonderful and mysterious than any religion or spiritual teaching.

It is early days yet but it gives me some hope for this world to see the Atheists leading the way. A majority would be nice but longest journeys begin with small steps.

Yes because if the atheists "win" the world will be a better place . North Korea, the real paradise on earth.

You've got to smile when ignorant people try and equate NK to atheism. That country with its cult of the deceased great leader who is worshiped as a god. Yes, that is what atheism is all about. Atheism is about thinking rationaly, reason, enlightenment. They are in pretty short supply in NK.

Looks like could do with a healthy dose yourself.