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Just now, MrPatrickThai said:

Good advice for sure, but not for free surely.

Oh well, I am not experiencing a cost, so if something has been mined or exploited without my knowledge, I can live with that.

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

Yes, with all the bickering and games here, people often overlook the real service that is provided here in helping so many people with real information and good advice.

Not only in the visa forum and not only from Ubonjoe, but yes, he's a top star for sure.

The site is obviously a commercial for profit enterprise but in that context it still provides help of real value to many for no cost but to have to look at adverts. 

That is my understanding too!

So great to be able to access your knowledge on TV,@ubonjoe! #muchgratitude

On 1/4/2018 at 12:35 PM, ubonjoe said:

They would not deny you leaving the country in any case if you have the 20k baht to pay the fine unless you had an arrest warrant for something you had done here. 

People have left with years of of overstay without a problem.

But now with more than 90 days you would be banned form entering the country for a year or if more than a year it would be 5 years.

 

Apologies for the seemingly nonsensical followup query, @ubonjoe, but I am trying to get all the information I need without any gaps whatsoever. Immigration at the international airport for a matter such as this operates on Sundays, right?

On 1/9/2018 at 3:17 PM, pearciderman said:

 

Therein lies the problem, you asked an "embassy officer", (who works for MFA), about an immigration matter, maybe you should have asked an immigration officer ?

This is a fair point. Will do this tomorrow.

WOW, i thought the topic was done.

Gratitude to the additional posters, as your advice are all necessary reaffirmations. Not even a hint of sanctimony or belittling, just support. You folk have clearly been in The Kingdom for long enough with that level of compassion!

My gratitude is as always, very great. Thank you again, Ubonjoe (and lopburi3!).

Hi @ubonjoe: I am directing this query to you, as I find you the most trustworthy.

I am just wondering in the case of an overstay, in what case would Immigration refuse to simply accept the 20K baht fine and let you fly out at the international airport in BKK? I ask because an embassy officer just informed me that in "rare cases," they will refuse the fine, choose to arrest you instead, thereby leading to the court case/detainment/deportation process. But he could not give me an example of one of those cases!

I understand that many queries have been made on this matter, and I have looked throughout the forums, but I could not find a personal anecdote of this particular situation, which is one that would actually be helpful to me.

Thanks in advance!

Sadly this man may have been mentally ill. Killing your family is just not something that any sane person can do.

Thank you for not using this for an ignorant tirade about Thai males. Mental health is clearly the underlying issue here.

Oh, its true alright. This molly coddled mummy's boy, like most Thai men, wasn't getting what he wanted, in his way, when he wanted it and so did what he seen to be the correct thing to do. Went into a selfish rage and punished his wife for not holding him, coming to him when called and not giving him his way.

I see it everyday with young Thai boys and full grown Thai men. It's scary, it really is. RIP to his dear children.

and your insightful, studied, unbiased, detached, un-ethnocentric and expert insights into the mass murder shooters...school and otherwise in the U.S please? I just know psychologists from round the world are waiting with baited breath to learn from your analysis

I have recently been reflecting on the countless Thai males I see in the capital who appear to work their <deleted> off EVERY DAY—especially in construction and food preparation. I have seen this over a number of years, and it belies the claims from two Western women made when I first arrived in The Kingdom.

"" staff cannot be sure if the front compartment had opened by itself ""

"" mysteriously the Security Camera covering that part of the store was not working ""

Great story

"" staff cannot be sure if the front compartment had opened by itself ""

I think the meaning of the comment was that it might not have been properly closed after servicing and popped open after some time as opposed to someone prying it open. If there was no evidence of damage, that's probably a sensible scenario.

Not sure of the inner workings of an ATM, but assume that access to the cash stored in it would require more than just lifting the ATM cover.

Usually ATMs suffer a lot more when some genius tries to get the money out.

How dare you post a considered, logical, and clearly written post based on a degree of insight that is without an unwarranted slur, generalization, or exercise in catastrophization! Don't you know where you are??

By earning 5-15 times the average salary you are able to outbid locals on property and business rentals. own motorbikes and cars far beyond the dreams of Thais and this creates jealousy and discontent. Not talking about 'tourists' living in resorts renting cheap scooters etc, but those in high end houses and condos throwing money around with no respect for locals. No obligations - well, that sums it up.

I see lots of people driving around my area in cars I could never dream of affording. They're all Thai. Not all the locals are dirt poor.

I agree, but the Thais who can afford these cars are for the most successful businessmen in their own country, where one would hope the playing field was level (small hope as this is all-corrupt Thailand, but still), whereas the twenty something digital nomad is showing the middle class Thai exactly how meaningless his existence is.

The wage and wealth gap is huge in Thailand - foreigners earning foreign currency just make it all the more obvious to the "middle class".

Again, I understand that it feels easier to just contribute based on a "feeling," but it would be far more valuable if you could even provide anecdotal verification of your claims. I am sure the Thai middle and lower classes will feel truly blessed by a person who wants to return the meaning to their lives, so if you can document the resentment that is harbored by them due to the DNs, this thread would greatly benefit. Video footage would be the best option, if you are willing to make the effort, as to hear this resentment from the downtrodden would be incredibly valuable.

Staying long long term on tourist visa, living in the same long term rental at a steep discount is not what the Tourist folks generally have in mind. How any of these arguments will fare when bounced against the simple argument "hey, I am here and spending money in Thailand", only time will tell

HA HA HA! "Steep discount"...since when farangs have gotten that kind of deals in Thailand?! More like the exact opposite.

Some people just do not like remote workers no matter what. They absolutely hate the fact the world has changed and where you work from does not matter that much anymore.

For Thailand it is a win-win situation. Money coming in, 5-15 times of average Thai salary per month. No obligations to pay anything back, like social security or even hospital bills.

Let's say 53 year old remote worker and 53 year old early retiree, both receiving the same amount of money per month...are you honestly going to say that 53 year old retiree is somehow more valuable to Thailand or his home country than that still working other guy?!

"Some people just do not like remote workers no matter what. They absolutely hate the fact the world has changed and where you work from does not matter that much anymore."

In fact it does matter - if you spend more than 180 days in this country you are liable for tax on the moneys you earn pursuing your career, worldwide. USA, amongst many countries has always taxed citizens on worldwide earnings - so little has "changed", other than it is easier to conceal your illegal earnings from your own (and your host) govts.

For Thailand it is a win-win situation. Money coming in, 5-15 times of average Thai salary per month. No obligations to pay anything back, like social security or even hospital bills.

By earning 5-15 times the average salary you are able to outbid locals on property and business rentals. own motorbikes and cars far beyond the dreams of Thais and this creates jealousy and discontent. Not talking about 'tourists' living in resorts renting cheap scooters etc, but those in high end houses and condos throwing money around with no respect for locals. No obligations - well, that sums it up.

Let's say 53 year old remote worker and 53 year old early retiree, both receiving the same amount of money per month...are you honestly going to say that 53 year old retiree is somehow more valuable to Thailand or his home country than that still working other guy?!

The retiree has, until now had to endure far more stringent checks to get the OA visa - compared to the tourist visa holder abusing the system, who had no checks at all. So yes, I could say the retirees money is probably 'cleaner' and therefor more acceptable than the 'working guy's'.

"so little has "changed", other than it is easier to conceal your illegal earnings from your own (and your host) govts."

I suggest you spend at least a day actually looking at the way that "work" has and is changing. I understand it is easier to respond off the top of your head, based on a "feeling," but if you really want to make a worthwhile contribution, then substantial research is recommended.

I am unsure how he got a Thai bank account, but do you think this worked in his favor, jspill?

I understand now! I thought, is she saying that she is only a Thai woman "most of the time"??

As irony is not understood by some of those moderating TV, this is yet another example of why the stereotype of Thais as "stupid, lazy, and ignorant" is absolute garbage.

What do you mean, "Most of the time"?

I'm not sure what all this talk about wanting to be treated equally (presumably with Thais) is all about? As far as I can tell, and my experience goes, we ferangs get preferantial treatment in just about everything!

And credit to you for being able to recognize the way that others actually treat you. This myth often goes hand-in-hand with the other one about how all Thais are "stupid."

Most of the "unfulfilled expectations" foreigners experience stem from the fact that they just can't handle being a minority.

They're used to having all the clout, all the say, all the influence and, in Thailand, they ain't got jack . . . even with the benefit of big baht

Certainly, there are some who manage just fine but there's a significant hardcore that yearns for the feeling of security and power that comes with being part of the majority that dishes out the crap rather than having to take it.

The ignominy of having people they'd typically walk all over back home telling them not only when to jump but also how high is just too much to bear for some of the old colonials

It's only hard to cope with if you think you should be treated better on account of the colour of your skin or the nationality in your passport

It is moments like these when I realize that TV comprises people with exceptional intellects—thank you Cypress Hill!

Here's what I assume happened;

Finn and Ladyboy had a beer.

Finn pays for his and leaves

LB assumes Finn paid for her Bt79 beer and leaves

Bar staff confront LB; fight ensues

Motorcycle taxis break up fight (notice in one pic a mototaxi is being questioned as a witness probably)

LB and bar staff hunt down Finn together after realizing they are both Thai and he is not

3-way fight; Finn takes a heel to the dome

Police arrive

His beer, a lady boy is a guy

Physiologically, "guy" is accurate, but in gendered terms the decision is left with the individual. Oh, that's right, you are opposed to stupid intellectual garbage—I will leave you to your dull mediocrity now. Sorry about that.

Many digital nomads have moved to Cambodia where the Internet is faster and the visa issues are fewer. If you are coder, you may enjoy spending time in Saigon. Seems to be the best place for coding in Asia. Good luck with Thailand.

Not! It's slower and more expensive. Don't know about Saigon but I hear the pho is pretty good. I hear Lopburi has a lot of monkeys...maybe you code monkeys will like it up there.

You are wrong but even IF you were right, you still get left in peace to just work. If you are serious about getting work done, you should be an a place that allows for that. You can still enjoy all the scholarly pursuits and culture Thailand as to offer on long weekends. Most are like you only arguing over the speed of the Internet. But you added monkeys and that was a nice attempt at humor.

"and that was a nice attempt at humor."

Let's not get carried away, yellowboat. Just look at his username—like the rest of us, you know very well what you are dealing with here.