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I have just completed first 90 day reporting on the Non O Imm with one year extension for retirement purposes aka Retirement Visa Thailand.

Downloaded form TM47 from Thai Visa Forum, printed out, the one page doc you use for 90 day reporting. At this point you will have all the data you need to complete the 90 day reporting doc in your current passport plus your living address. You will need your full address including the 'Tambol' and 'Amphur'. They are something like district names related to your living location I guess.

When reporting in person only the 1 page doc, completed and signed, is required. No copies and no photocopies of passport pages, etc..

As Chaengwattana office is currently closed due to the siege it was very convenient to use the temporary filing location on LadPhrao. Depending on the time of day traveling on Lad Phrao can be congested but even when congested it moves eventually. Filing location is inside the large Big C building towards the back on the 5th floor. Front entrance guard will point you in the right direction. Modest waiting times, small lines to have your doc checked, be assigned a number and a counter, hand in your doc and receive a receipt with the next 90 day report filing date. There was no problem filing my 90 day report a couple of days earlier than the due date.

The outrage occurred when she stepped in as inept puppet for her brother, after they bought up votes on the backs of the uneducated. Everything they touched failed and is an outrage. The worst outrage is foreign posters who are thicker than a plank not to see this little oligarchy of ineptitude crumbling as a result of ill deeds; with even farmers taking a stand.

Pipkins, great post, you are right on and correct,

Gemini81

Who's outrage The Rich Elite,, they are the ones yelling fot Thaskin head.

I live among those you refer to uneducated, you know nothing about what is going on in Thailand today,

Also I for one as a Farang's posters on TV, dispute your Fascist rant, Could you kindly point out what programs they touched that failed, as you state "Everything they touched failed" and it is an outrage"

What are these outrages failures you rant about,

* The political machine that has won every election, since 2001.

* Providing affordable and quality health care for its citizens,-Very popular!

* Raising the minimum wage by 25%.- very popular

* Village managed Micro credit development funds.

* government sponsored One-tambon, One product program.

* paid rice farmers a decent price for their rice..

Why are you as a Farang, that has no right to vote in Thailand so outraged!

Could it be the poll that is a thread on this forum that stated 79.6 % of Thai's polled stated they would vote on February 2, 2014, showing that Suthep does not represent the vast majorities of Thai's that will not boycott the election,

I believe in a democratic election, where everyone vote is equal, if Suthep was the winner, I would certainly be disappointed, but I would live with the results until the next election,

Sonny, that is how a Democracy works, The Majority Rules!

Cheers

Let me address your specious points ionbne by one for effect.

* The political machine that has won every election, since 2001. - Won through electoral fraud and all Taksin's parties prior to PT were dissolved and politician's banned 5 years for electoral fraud, but somehow Teflon Taksin managed to not get banned.

* Providing affordable and quality health care for its citizens,-Very popular! - It is rather like the British NHS by all accounts, you have to wait ages and are lucky if the person who sees you really knows what they are on about. But at least it is cheap.

* Raising the minimum wage by 25%.- very popular - A ridiculous populist policy that has lead to price increases in almost everything all over the country. In real terms nobody is any richer as the small wage increases were cancelled out by the price increases everywhere. Has also led to some businesses leaving Thailand going to other cheaper countries.

* Village managed Micro credit development funds. - Which led to many people getting in over their heads and unable to make the repayments leading to their land being bought up ( by someone ) at way under market prices to pay off the debts.

* government sponsored One-tambon, One product program. - Most of it is rather overpriced and as to whether it has really helped improve the lot of the farmers I don't know...

* paid rice farmers a decent price for their rice..- Another stupid populist policy that has been a complete disaster on all levels. Paying 40% over market rates which has led to Thailand having a mountain of rotting rice it can't sell. Thailand dropped from the number 1 rice seller in the world, a position it held for over 30 years to number 3 as people are buying the same rice cheaper from India and Vietnam. And despite getting 40% more than their product is worth for 2 years, the farmers are still poor. Where did all the money go ?

What else you got Sparky ?!

Talk about specious! Not to overlook pejorative opinions parading as knowledge. Wouldn't say you proved anything except an overconfident attitude in questionable information and a disrespect of others.

An exceptional pack of fascistas waving perilously empty ideas today while waiting their next bump for the yellow EC from the Dem bought CC. Boredom and tension?

At idle times like these good to contemplate another poster's question...

"Why are Suthep and his backers really so down on Thaksin?

Seems like a nice airport.

Skytrain is pretty cool.

The 30 baht per visit medical program seems to help many in need.

Everyone benefited from the economic recovery from the 1997 Asian financial crisis.

Reducing poverty from 21.3% to 11.3% is a good thing I think.

Balancing the national budget and producing fiscal surpluses for 2003 to 2005 would be considered fiscally responsible.

Foreign exchange reserves doubling seems like a success.

Government Lottery for education would have not only reduced illegal gambling, but provided education for those in need.

Privatizing MCOT and increasing freedom of speech seems like a move in the right direction.

Student Loan Fund (SLF) helping low income students get an education with low interest rates was nice.

Supporting Nicholas Negroponte's One Laptop Per Child (OLPC) project was a cool idea.

Wholesale power pool competition in the energy markets lowering these costs would tend to benefit the people.

Introducing Islamic law and making Pattani-Malay (Yawi) an official language in southern region seemed like a start to help reduce conflict there.

Transformation of the government department, ministries, and provincial governors operating style of the traditional bureaucracy into a more results-oriented instrument would have been awesome.

Crackdown on mafia crime was long overdue.

Profit agreements with Cambodia on the huge oil potential in the gulf of Thailand could have made Thailand energy independent.

Maybe Thaksin did too much? Are they jealous of Thaksin's popularity?

Those in the black box behind this movement need to look past personal interests and put the interests of the whole above yourselves."

What exactly is stopping the farmers from going to Bangkok??

State of Emergency and all, Sutheps southern thugs are still roaming the streets of the capital!!

But ofcourse PDRC have to say that!!

The majority of those protesting have a real sense of grievance over PTs corrupt, bullying, inept manner of governing. They are not thugs. Leave that word to the poster who seems to have a copyright on its use.

"The whistle blowing protesters have been telling each other and anyone who would listen that theirs is a protest by good people, not brutes. We are rich and educated, they said, not tools of corrupt politicians (like the poor, uneducated, not-good, uncouth people on the other side)....I am not hired because my salary is big, my family is rich, etc.

from The Thai Intelligent News

http://assassinationthaksin.wordpress.com/2013/11/16/back-to-thailands-future-thailands-current-explosive-political-scene-from-present-to-origin/

They are protesting because of the way PT governed. They saw nothing but corruption, incompetence, intimidation of political opponents and the judiciary by their bully boy cadres, use of the law as a weapon and an inability to see that their duty was to rule for the good of Thailand not themselves.

I don't agree with the protests, I see suthep as a fascist, but I can see why people are out exercising their democratic right to protest.

Apart from their historical prejudices towards the ruling elites of Bangkok and their fear of a Thaksin government that would give the underclass power their access to information about Yingluck and the PT is limited to the local media which ranges from deeply in the Democrat and xxxx pockets all the way to the rag that's works as an intermediary with international news also in the Dem pocket. You know the one whose by line should more appropriately read 'the world's funhouse mirror on Thailand'. And, given their history and place in history, this would more appropriately describe the Democrats which oddly is not on their radar. "They saw nothing but corruption, incompetence, intimidation of political opponents and the judiciary by their bully boy cadres, use of the law as a weapon and an inability to see that their duty was to rule for the good of Thailand not themselves."

I agree people should exercise their democratic right to protest. Full stop. but as you say Suthep is a fascist and there's something quite otherwise going on here. His movement's enforcers are thugs. Will leave it there.

What exactly is stopping the farmers from going to Bangkok??

State of Emergency and all, Sutheps southern thugs are still roaming the streets of the capital!!

But ofcourse PDRC have to say that!!

The majority of those protesting have a real sense of grievance over PTs corrupt, bullying, inept manner of governing. They are not thugs. Leave that word to the poster who seems to have a copyright on its use.

"The whistle blowing protesters have been telling each other and anyone who would listen that theirs is a protest by “good people,” “not brutes.” “We are rich and educated,” they said, not tools of corrupt politicians (like the poor, uneducated, not-good, uncouth people on the other side)....“I am not hired because my salary is big,” “my family is rich,” etc.

from The Thai Intelligent News

http://assassinationthaksin.wordpress.com/2013/11/16/back-to-thailands-future-thailands-current-explosive-political-scene-from-present-to-origin/

Excellent...SOE going into effect, Yingluck leads and the military under her instructions.

Nation buries the lead but none the less...

"Yingluck gave the instruction while chairing a meeting of the Defence Council at the Royal Thai Air Force headquarters....the meeting discussed the scope of military authority in enforcing the emergency decree and its role in helping police keep order at night. The military leaders were told to help monitor against more bomb attacks and warned to be careful when making public statements."

"T News is a satellite-based channel with the broadcast of news 24 hours a day same as leading international news channel. Currently the news channel is reporting live broadcast of anti-government protests."

A PDRC / NSPRT / Democrat Party 'news' outlet? Might give a clue to the news channel taxi drivers prefer to visit most. One of theirs was beat to a pulp courtesy of 'protestors'.

Thaksin was expired as ACTING Caretaker PM.

He went to the palace and returned with a "no comment".

He was NOT given the position after his 'time dependent term' expired.

Though the laws on this point were not clear; What happens when a caretaker times out?

He then quit and his deputy took over the job.

A week later Thaksin unilaterally took the PM job back.

He was not sworn in to a second caretaker term, or as PM.

One thing was clear a PM must be sworn in, and resigning and having it accepted, restarts that process

Thaksin then did not say he was Caretaker PM he publicly called himself PM.

He then went to the UN in New York saying he was "Prime Minister Of Thailand",

to give a speech, that he effectively did not have the authority to give in that name.

There were also comments prior to departure he would create an SOE or Marshall Law.

There was a coup to remove him.

His 'legend' always says he was the PM removed from office.

But the reality is he was an expired caretaker PM,

and could be seen as acting as an usurper of the PM position.

Excellent post on the historical aspects of Thaksin's removal. Can you provide more on the events leading up to "Thaksin was expired as acting Caretaker PM." ? Or a link to an unbiased source of information on same? thanks in advance

Now all of you tell me, if any of your countries would happen something like this: what would be the outcome? Would protesters be considered peaceful?

It's not all protesters and I doubt it's more than a small fraction. They're wrong but they don't represent the majority of the anti government protesters.

Protestors are followers of a ranting demagogue and his enforcers, the Network of Students and People for Reform of Thailand (NSPRT) not to mention their political tool wing the Democrat party.

You're known by and judged by the company you keep. If you just came out because you love a parade and a mindless day to join your friends for a 'make Thailand better day' by blowing a whistle while the movement is busy at illegal acts then you will have to learn life's lessons the hard way. Guilty by association, guilty with the rest.

Since virtually all protests attract those who want to use it as an excuse for violence there would never be any protests, including the red shirt ones in 2010. A lot of sporting matches would also never place.

It also means that Yingluck is guilty of insurrection as she is, or was in a government with red shirts some of whom tried to overturn the government and called on their followers to burn down Bangkok and if I remember rightly run down soldiers with their trucks. That also means that all red shirts are guilty by association as well. Or is it all Thais?

Don't forget that the army disobeyed orders in 2010 when they killed protesters so maybe those associated with them now are guilty of murder. How far does this association go?

I do think that Suthep should publicly condemn these threats and the violence on both sides otherwise it looks like he condones them but your suggestions just show a lack of logical thinking.

BTW my wife went to the protests a few weeks ago but she doesn't support Suthep's views apart from wanting to get rid of Thaksin's influence and corruption and she isn't violent.

Lack of logical thinking? Man, Earth to your distant planet, you give 'Windmills of my Mind" renewed meaning.

Suthep should go to jail and the "protestors" should roust out that worm Abhisit and if they can find it the Democrat party, develop a coherent concept of governing Thailand that appeals to a majority and that the people can support and through the democratic process try to oust the current government if that's their desire.

This is now today, not 2010, and reveling in selective memories of the previous coup installed government just obscure clear thinking about a way forward now. And while at it, yes Thaksin remains a potent player in today's politics because he successfully delivered on promises to the underclass and the population in general and he was removed by a coup instead of an election then prosecuted by the installed government of the coup makers and their suspect judiciary. Anyone who wants to make bones about Thaksin will always have to get around that insurmountable fact, a military coup and the taint of coup installed government with every reason to stigmatize Thaksin. They took the easy way, just as Suthep et al want to do now. They can yammer all day about Shinawatra corruption but the truth of his political worth lies in the tens of millions of votes ready to support a political party that has his imprimatur and the quaking fear he would ever be free to lead Thailand again.

I think this is part of the Governments plan to let this mob roam for a while.

It's only when enough people realise what an absolute disgrace this latest coup plot is that they some may grow a set of balls and come out against it.. More importantly stop it happening again.

Numbers are really dropping fast on the protests so it is working. Without leaving them out there to commit all these outrages they stood a better chance of power. So strangely, the worse it gets the better it is....

Whilst some are saying this weakens the Gov and makes them appear ineffective, what is happening even more is that people are waking up to Suthep and either deserting him or jumping ship to the White shirts. Certainly is not strenghening the protest however you look at it. Another very poor turn out today and no thread was available today to post pics of this dangerous rump mob, which it is now many in the middle have tuned out.

sad, but if it sees them off the political scene once and for all .. we'll have to bear it. The Bangkok tax payer will be paying to repair all the damage, so they must be ok with it... There money, there choice, but excuse me if I don't agree that this has an educated air to it.

This false image of an eductated middle class has also taken a real hammering. Not too much on Thai visa, but the scorn levels on twitter from indside and outside and the links to foreign media are really showing them up for what they are. Semi-educated, self deluded, trained to follow as sheep... Whistling sheep this time as opposed to clapping sheep under the PAD

What a load of rubbish, how many days did it take to dream this up?

Put up or shutup scorecard. Have anything intelligent or insightful to say or is it just the one line, brain dead remarks?

Protestors must of been 'fighting on' somewhere else today...Out and about today, on entering Asoke / Sukhumvit area 20 people and a soi dog in front of the stage listening to music (if you can't get a crowd the solutions seems to be to turn up the volume), very few people wearing protest paraphenalia or whistles, overstocked protest vendors must be in a slump now along with the other businesses on Sukhumvit.

But replacing the protesters is a real sense of heightened security with guards around everywhere, the Citibank building on the corner with only one entrance via the flyover, entrance guarded by security, and just like during 2010 SOE the army guys on the flyovers in camouflage or green uniform. Add to that a lot of small groups of men in uniforms heading for the trains or in the BTS. Moving out to new positions I guess. I'll bet if you're looking like a protestor you're getting a lot of eyes on you from the guards, police and army guys. Or well protected, depending your point of view.

There is no one at the stage in the morning. They are still in there tents in various places further from the stage.

There are a few people there by lunch time, but they are generally staying out of the sun.

By evening it ramps up a bit, and there will be a few thousand there during the evening

But, regardless of the numbers at various times during the day, they still have there stages blocking the intersections, which is their aim.

I have been there in the evening and a several hundred would be kind, in your dreams a few thousand even if you count anyone within a 2 soi radius, but then we know how protest supporters love to lay claim to anything up to six million.

Yes, the police so far have allowed them their fig leaf and how long that will last is TBD. For the empty stages make more of a statement of how shallow and weak their support has become. A pyrrhic victory at best.

Protestors must of been 'fighting on' somewhere else today...Out and about today, on entering Asoke / Sukhumvit area 20 people and a soi dog in front of the stage listening to music (if you can't get a crowd the solutions seems to be to turn up the volume), very few people wearing protest paraphenalia or whistles, overstocked protest vendors must be in a slump now along with the other businesses on Sukhumvit.

But replacing the protesters is a real sense of heightened security with guards around everywhere, the Citibank building on the corner with only one entrance via the flyover, entrance guarded by security, and just like during 2010 SOE the army guys on the flyovers in camouflage or green uniform. Add to that a lot of small groups of men in uniforms heading for the trains or in the BTS. Moving out to new positions I guess. I'll bet if you're looking like a protestor you're getting a lot of eyes on you from the guards, police and army guys. Or well protected, depending your point of view.

Now all of you tell me, if any of your countries would happen something like this: what would be the outcome? Would protesters be considered peaceful?

It's not all protesters and I doubt it's more than a small fraction. They're wrong but they don't represent the majority of the anti government protesters.

Protestors are followers of a ranting demagogue and his enforcers, the Network of Students and People for Reform of Thailand (NSPRT) not to mention their political tool wing the Democrat party.

You're known by and judged by the company you keep. If you just came out because you love a parade and a mindless day to join your friends for a 'make Thailand better day' by blowing a whistle while the movement is busy at illegal acts then you will have to learn life's lessons the hard way. Guilty by association, guilty with the rest.

It was pretty obvious a few weeks ago that they didn't have wide support. That point was made very clear when they started lying about the number of protesters, trying to turn 75000 into 6 million.

Why don't you just <deleted> and give your BS opinions based on brainwashed ignorance a break?

Even CNN, the propaganda machine of the most vile and mentally polluted nation on the planet has the number of protesters at 170,000.

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/01/17/world/asia/thailand-protests/

And now the farmers are beginning to wake up ...

This regime is done.

I always love it when these guy get brittle and start to flake, shoving their delusions on other posters.

Revisiting their preposterous six million protestors claim is one of the most effective to bring them out swinging at shadows. They know they swallowed the kool-aid and will have to live with it fo'evah.

Fortunately we can join them here in their war room via the computer screen and get their up to the moment marshaling of 'facts' to support their flaky conclusions.

Stay tuned, there's bound to be more...

Meet the boys on the battle front for the Wild Tchopetoulas gonna stomp some rump!

Silly to declare the state of emergency. Why Wednesday and not now? Why at all? And shouldn't it be the PM to declare it and not Chalerm? Probably the missunderstood fugitive instructed it all. Now see how the new CAPO will (not) behave. They are renamed the Peacekeeping Center. Will see if that name is correct.

Gives them one day to either 1) disperse by themselves 2) strengthen their fortresses (?) or get the Army ready to clear them out.

1) Never in a hundred years.

2) More likely thousands of people mobilizing themselves to hit BKK to protect the protest.

3) The army will never use force against the protesters. They are peaceful from the start. The police may try it, and we may see a token death or two, and that will be the end of it. The army will stage the coup that they want, and the police will be run out of town with the government.

This government is playing right into Suthep's hands. This will be their final mistake.

Next Monday on tinfoil hat adjustment day, at any protest blockade if any are left, you can surrender your tinfoil hat for a new tinfoil crown with 3 gold stars. Congratulations and well earned...

Strange co-incidence, right after the State of Emergency was announced TVF website became unavailable here for maybe half an hour.

A good beginning?

Well lf the try to contain the protestors and top them from marching ... you can be sure this will lead to an increase in violence

Yinguck .. do the right thing . quit and go to Dubai

Here's an idea - GO Yingluck, stopping the protestors from anarchy and blockading Bangkok will stabilize Bangkok and we'll bring some sand for you to pound from Dubai. Eh?

Excellent. Time to clear the trash off the highways, restore order, protect the public and guarantee an open and fair election.

Order in the popcorn...

and I would suggest that one of YL's key strategies is presenting as someone who can be underestimated...

You seem to have have a real knack as a science fiction writer

We'll see who the science fiction writer is shortly I suspect and my bet is it's not Prbkk...

Eating your own words is never a pleasant snack...

Yes, well, god forbid the police would arrest the protest leaders, put the protestors on the sidelines and plow the barricades instead of protecting the anarchists while they march on to shut down more government agencies.

Look up the word anarchist and see if you think it really applies to protesters whose main aim is to oust a corrupt regime that disobeys the law.

You're right in a way, it's only anarchy the protest leaders want to create in order for the fascists to replace the government and install the old feudal order. The protestors want mostly a parade plus passionate jingo slogans, to believe there's a magical fix to things in life, to maintain the underclass order, entertainment and an excuse not to work. Everyone loves a parade.

Thanks for catching the misnomer.

My pleasure the info. I think the difference between passport copies required and no passport copies is whether you mail it in or you present yourself with your passport. If you appear in person they can see at a glance all the information that needs to be copied for a 'mail in'. If you mail in they need to be able to corroborate your info with copies of your passport information.

Just returned from filing my 90 day report at the Immigration Center 3 on Lad Phrao Road, 5th floor at the back of the Big C building. Pleasantly surprised. It's easy to reach if you take the MRT to the Lad Phrao station and then catch a bus, 8 baht, or a taxi, estimated 50 baht, straight down Lad Phrao in the direction of increasing soi numbers. I think Big C is about soi 65.

They are at full tilt operations there, convenient signs to guide you to the counter of your concern. After checking at the preliminary counter with your paperwork they assign you a number and range of windows, you enter a room with window bays and the familiar call number system in lights. I waited about 3 minutes for my number to come up on the board and the woman entered all the data and gave me back a stamped receipt with next reporting date. Couldn't of been easier.

It took more time going up and down the elevators (a tad slow those old elevators) than it did for the whole process of finding the location, reporting and a receiving a receipt.

It is form TM.47 for filing the report and only one completed page required, no duplicates or passport copies etcetera required if filing in person.

Beautiful day on Lad Phrao, you'll be glad you went if you need a respite from the crazy. Election posters hanging from poles all along the ways, Respect My Vote Banners on bridges, happy people and not one person sighted wearing a f**king whistle or the old red, white and blue code for anti-government. Fall in love with Bangkok again, visit the Immigration Center on Lad Phrao :-).