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11 hours ago, LosLobo said:

So your time is not valuable and doesn't have a cost?

 

Invest in a black hole?

 

What do you mean?

 

Investment in a thai company with nominee shareholders or a share certificate with a major bank in a first world country?

Often money can be lost when investing  . The investment community  discribe where the money is lost as a black hole . 

My time is not worth much now i am retired . Yet most working people have to make time to maintain there home .

5 hours ago, LosLobo said:

Re: Economics thoughts.

 

In your cost benefit analysis did you think about offsets for maintenance and loss of return on capital.

 

Even with an RoR  with a suitable investment @ between 5 to 10 % on B6.1M, your savings on rent could be minimal.

 

Don't want to rain on your parade but just saying!

 

Maintanence is minimal if you do the work your self .

Invest in a black hole what happens then ?

2 hours ago, DirtyHarry55 said:

Might be related topic below.

From what I've heard China's been buying up a lot of land in company name as well.

Won't be long before Asean becomes China-ASEAN.

 

A natural development geographically . Inevitable considering the growth of the country financially over the past 40 years . 

20 hours ago, fangless said:

I was being environmentally friendly by just suggesting one bag!

Bags disposed of thoughtfully just like the body .

2 hours ago, petermik said:

I think being a visitor to the country we should respect their laws....whether we agree with them is another matter.

All must follow the law and that includes foreigners . Respect the law is not the way to explain what you mean . How can you respect something you don't agree with .

4 hours ago, thailanddogerator said:

 

And you have been pefectly brainwashed ! yes ! this is sure !

 

 

Why you so sure I am brain washed ? On the contrary I think

All English speaking people are aware of the difference between too and to . 

Many foreign English speaker's are not . 

So what 

3 hours ago, worgeordie said:

600 Million THB in assets , salary 43,000 THB month ,I think

the tax man needs to have a close look at him too.

regards Worgeordie

Majority of the Thai population tolerate corruption but not paying income tax .

There will not be any close investigation on the accused murderer's income tax in my opinion .

6 minutes ago, Harrith54 said:

I for that matter see in other Countries a surche of Covid variants, so these goverments tell, after the vaccine, twice jab, and many more Covid cases. So with OR without you are infectious and van administre infectious to others as well. In Israël, where about all people are injecties twice, they have enormous outbreak. So now they are injecting nr three and after that Will come fout etc... The jab Will continue, but not because of the virus, but there is something in the vaccin that does something else.

Wait for the upcomming surges and manditory vaccins, they Will Go on. Not against this variants they tell, because nobody in this time has found any virus yet. Only a immunereaction but the virus is yet to be found for real. So how act now???

Confusing to say the least . I read that people that were fully vaccinated had more chance of contracting covid than a person unvaccinated and had recovered due to there own bodies immune system .

One fact seems clear is that fully vaccinated individuals have far less chance of suffering the worst of the symptoms covid offers .

6 hours ago, rupert the bear said:

excuse me but how will your logic and intelligence fare against lies corruption and the lure of the mighty baht and of course luckily we have the sinovaccs which are obviously a complete failure.youve hit the nail on the head perhaps someone needs a nail in the head!!

Perhaps a nail in the coffin would be more appropriate  

44 minutes ago, club said:

So you are saying that ALL vaccines cause the same amount of deaths? Your wrong. They all have different results 

How can i be wrong about a statement I never made ? Of memory I said all vaccines cause death . I never mentioned about how many or what vaccine is the worst culprit .

1 minute ago, placeholder said:

Well, I guess if you think of the constraint imposed by actual facts as some sort of tunnel vision, you have a point. By all means, continue to make assertions unbacked by any independently verifiable evidence. It's not surprising that you would defend these companies that refused to publicly release their data. You, like they, seem allergic to citing independently verifiable facts.

You are making the assertions , not anyone else. 

I repeat , the company behind Sinovac covid 19 vaccine has divulged the findings from there tests . All three . 

3 hours ago, smedly said:

Thailand is playing fast and loose with this mixing, I would not see a problem with it if it was properly studied for safety and efficacy but it isn't.

 

The primary reason for doing it has nothing to do with best practise - is to cover up the governments obvious failure with vaccine procurement and to save their ####, no other reason.

 

These vaccines are dangerous enough without these unproven cocktails and the fact that they have their own associated risks seems to me to mean you are being exposed to the risks from each brand plus an as yet unknown risk of mixing.

 

None of this has been properly studied 

Your comments are fast and loose.

Mixing vaccines has been going on for a long time before covid 19 was around

5 hours ago, Henryford said:

Can anyone reference for me the scientific papers where they have tested the effect of mixing different vaccines?

Been happening since the diphtheria vaccine , small pox etc 

1 hour ago, placeholder said:

In fact, Western companies did release their Phase 1, 2, and 3 trial results with all the data before the vaccines were approved for emergency use. But if you've got facts that prove otherwise, by all means, share them with us. But you won't because you've got nothing.

 

Share the truth with a person who has tunnel vision is a fruitless exercise .

That is not true 

3 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

An altogether feeling of Deja Vu has started to overtake the numbers.  Have we not been here before, and yet how many times can we semi-flatline versus all other countries cases.  Vaccinations have been getting kicked upward and many who have been double jabbed are getting boosters before those getting first shots which I find a little disheartening.  Sur the numbers of those getting vaccinated is increasing, but at least lets get those vaccines to the elderly and over 60 crowd who seem to be the ones dying in greater numbers.  I can only hope for the continued safety of the populace and then for those in need to be taken care of.

From the news reports in Thailand the booster vaccinations are for those on the frontline , such as medical workers . Your post implies there are individuals being overlooked . 

Sad truth is that many over 60 years of age and older in Thailand are worried about asking for a vaccine due to the media condemning the available vaccines . 

1 hour ago, club said:

What vaccine was it? Or is it a secret? 

It is no secret that all vaccines are a risk and  covid 19 vaccines  from east or west are no different.

18 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Clearly you're attempting to deflect.  I replied to your comments about Sputnik V and pointed out that Gamelaya hadn't even done a Phase 3 trial before the vaccine was released (it also hadn't published the resutls of its phase 1 and phase 2 trials) and your irrelevant response was to raise the issue of Sinovac. 

 So not only did I address the issue of the Russian vaccine, but also replied to your irrelevant claim about Sinovac. You claimed it had completed Phase 3 trials in February. But the only evidence that Sinovac offered for that was a press release announcing the results. A month later it still hadn't released the data. In fact, months later it hadn't done that. But we are expected to take their word for it?

The test results  for the 3rd trial for sinovac in February this year   was far more than a press release . All information has been divulged by sinovac biotech limited . 

53 minutes ago, placeholder said:

I was replying to these comments of yours about Sputnik V

Do you believe that jargon about phase 3 ? 

Putin made a statement that his daughter took the sputnik v vaccine with out problems .

Sputnik V was made available well before any other western vaccine . 

Phase 3 trials were not completed before the release of Sputnik V

The Sputnik V Vaccine and Russia’s Race to Immunity

The meeting’s ostensible agenda was the government’s preparations for the school year ahead, but the real news came in Putin’s opening remarks, when he revealed that Russia had granted approval to Sputnik V, the country’s first vaccine against covid-19. The vaccine, Putin noted, is “quite effective, helps develop immunity, and has gone through all the necessary trials.”

In fact, Russian scientists hadn’t published any data from their Phase I and Phase II trials, which test a vaccine’s safety and potential for efficacy among a limited number of volunteers, and hadn’t even started Phase III, which tests the vaccine in a much larger group of volunteers, using a placebo as a control. 

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/02/08/the-sputnik-v-vaccine-and-russias-race-to-immunity

 

But since you've brought up the issue of Sinovac's vaccine...only the alleged results of a study were announced via a press release in February.

Release coronavirus vaccine efficacy data, ex-China drug watchdog chief urges country’s pharma firms
Bi Jingquan urges Chinese pharmaceutical firms to be more transparent to build public trust in their products
Shots by Sinovac, Sinopharm and CanSino Biologics have been approved for use in some countries without publishing comprehensive phase 3 clinical trial results

Published: 7:30pm, 4 Mar, 2021

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/politics/article/3124113/release-covid-19-vaccine-efficacy-data-former-china-drug

 

For someone who claims to be well read on the subject, you've missed out on an awful lot.

 

 

 

It would be remarkable to see western pharmaceutical companies to be more transparent , not just Chinese.

Open both eyes please

44 minutes ago, placeholder said:

I was replying to these comments of yours about Sputnik V

Do you believe that jargon about phase 3 ? 

Putin made a statement that his daughter took the sputnik v vaccine with out problems .

Sputnik V was made available well before any other western vaccine . 

Phase 3 trials were not completed before the release of Sputnik V

The Sputnik V Vaccine and Russia’s Race to Immunity

The meeting’s ostensible agenda was the government’s preparations for the school year ahead, but the real news came in Putin’s opening remarks, when he revealed that Russia had granted approval to Sputnik V, the country’s first vaccine against covid-19. The vaccine, Putin noted, is “quite effective, helps develop immunity, and has gone through all the necessary trials.”

In fact, Russian scientists hadn’t published any data from their Phase I and Phase II trials, which test a vaccine’s safety and potential for efficacy among a limited number of volunteers, and hadn’t even started Phase III, which tests the vaccine in a much larger group of volunteers, using a placebo as a control. 

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/02/08/the-sputnik-v-vaccine-and-russias-race-to-immunity

 

But since you've brought up the issue of Sinovac's vaccine...only the alleged results of a study were announced via a press release in February.

Release coronavirus vaccine efficacy data, ex-China drug watchdog chief urges country’s pharma firms
Bi Jingquan urges Chinese pharmaceutical firms to be more transparent to build public trust in their products
Shots by Sinovac, Sinopharm and CanSino Biologics have been approved for use in some countries without publishing comprehensive phase 3 clinical trial results

Published: 7:30pm, 4 Mar, 2021

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/politics/article/3124113/release-covid-19-vaccine-efficacy-data-former-china-drug

 

For someone who claims to be well read on the subject, you've missed out on an awful lot.

 

 

 

For someone that wishes to ask questions and then say you never asked about Sinovac I just wonder if your getting your messges from a bottle

13 hours ago, placeholder said:

What do you mean by jargon? That you don't understand what a Phase 3 trial means? You claim to be widely read on the topic of Covid vaccines.

Is Putin's claim, which is unverifiable, that his daughter took the Sputnik V vaccine your idea of science-based evidence?

If Western vaccine manufacturers had skipped Phase 3 trials too, they could have released their vaccines for sale far earlier. Why do you think that being released first somehow obviates the need for Phase 3 trials?

Phase 3 sinovac trials were completed in February 2021 .

I can not verify that Putins daughter received a sputnik V vaccine as I can not verify many subjects raised on the world's media .  Putin was sending out a message that the vaccine is safe . That is plain common sense rather than scientific evidence.

China never skipped phase 3 trials . Phase 3 Trials' were completed in February 2021

Protectionist policies are the main reason for the rejection of the Sinovac and Sputnik V vaccine's .

Scientific evidence is not required for knowing that .

36 minutes ago, Jen65 said:

and why does scientific data show that it is ineffective ( one dose anyway) against the Delta variant !   So why is Thailand scurrying to find / order alternative recognised vaccines ?  If it's so good ,why then don't we simply accept and use Sinovac ?     

That is because the majority of  vaccines require two doses . 

Thailand is mostly trying to protect the most at risk group such as medical employees by using western vaccines. That unfortunately has not been 100 percent successful in the west