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Mister Donut?
Mister Donut, where? This must have been before Central KSK was built. Was there a Mister Donut before that? At the old Tantraphan Mall perhaps?
( Other candidates may include the Baskin Robbins at the old Chang Inn Plaza at the night bazar, where I think the first KFC opened? And did the Phucome Dunkin Donuts open before Central KSK was built?)
I remember treating my (then) wife and a friend to some ice cream at Baskin Robbins in the mid-80s, '85 or '86. Whether some chain was here earlier than that, I wouldn't know.
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Anyone have the link for this site please?
http://www.pcd.go.th/AirQuality/Regional/QueryAir.cfm?task=default
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Maybe Chiang Mai FC will get a win tomorrow then.
Where exactly does this leave the people that don't have heaven and hell in their religions then?
I'm sure that you can find your answer here: http://www.venganza.org/
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Greetings and very welcome back, Frank!
I know that you would recommend Miguels, since we have met there. Happy to see that you are at the keyboard again
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If I recall correctly Thailand is not a party to the treaty on international drivers license.
Yes it is. They also issue international drivers licenses to holders of a Thai drivers license. I know because I have one.
Just to pick a couple of nits:
1/ It is an "International Driver's Permit" (not a license) which is only valid in conjunction with your regular license.
2/ Thailand is party to the 1949 convention on IDPs, but not to the later 1968 one. I.e. IDPs issued according to the 1968 convention are not, strictly speaking, valid in Thailand.
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Dear all CM Residents,
Actually Priceless i have heard same as you about the higher rate of lung cancer patience in Cm seems to be of some kind of fungus inside people homes?
Does anyone know more about this ?
Is it in some material that is in houses or in condo,s? cheap or expensive properties?(who gets affected by it) there must be more news about this fungus?
what can be against it?
About myself yes i usually will use the car for most of my trips, for sport go to the indoor gym,so not a whole lot of out door activities ,then malls and parcs lakes..
But then again i got a son and he is always outside...i plan to live somewhere in the south of CM near to all the international schools i assume it be little outside the city center for sure.
Concerning fungi, here's an abstract of a research report on lung cancer incidence in Chiang Mai: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10622527
On a different note, if PM<10 pollution were a major cause of lung cancer, the highest incidence in Thailand would not be in Chiang Mai, or in Northern Thailand in general, but in Sara Buri which has MUCH higher levels of this type of pollution.
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The air pollution problem is seasonal and lasts roughly from mid February to the beginning of April with peaks usually in March. During this time, PM10 concentration can reach four times the EU safety limits on bad days. On an average day in March, it is at t150% of the EU safety limi. During the remainder of the year, the air quality is fine, unless you happen to live next to a dusty road. There are minor variations in timing and severity each year. This year was very unusual, as we had lots of rain during the "dry" season, which prevented the smog from building up. Long time residents say it has been the coldest and wettest hot season in decades. I am somewhat pessimistic about short-term improvements, as the political will for that seems to be lacking. The smog affects all of Northern Thailand, as well as neighbouring countries. During the last few years, the pollution was even more severe in places Chiang Rai and Mae Hong Song. Some people cope by taking a holiday and leaving Chiang Mai during March.
Cheers, CMX
Very nice post!
I agree with you here, part from: 150% of the EU safety limit
That should be 300% safety limit. i.e. a Pm10 of 150.
You are right that the 150% statement is incorrect. The average PM<10 level for Chiang Mai in March is 102.0 µg/m3 (for the years 2000 to 2011, 318 observations). If you compare this to the "EU limit" (which you can't really do, as I've pointed out in another post) the CM value is 104% higher, not 150% or 300%.
In theory, however, there could be a day with a PM<10 value of 500 µg/m3 somewhere in the EU and still be within the limit, as long as the 36 highest value of that year is at or below 50 µg/m3.
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Just a note on the EU standard: There is no such thing as a "daily limit" in the EU standard.
Um, actually there is for PM10. It's 50 µg/m3 averaged over 24 hours. (http://ec.europa.eu/environment/air/quality/standards.htm)
Cheers, CMX
It seems you didn't understand my post, or the EU standard. The EU "limit" of 50 µg/m3 is for the 36th highest daily (24-hour average) value of the year, i.e. up to 35 values can be in excess of the limit.
Please see this table:
As far as I have been able to find out, there is no maximum 24-hour value in the EU standard.
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PS If you follow the link that you gave and read it, including the rightmost column, you'll see exactly what I posted here and in the original post that you commented on.
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Hi sorry i just clicked on your graphics aqnd they are more then clear , yeah if they are correct then air more clean in Cm in comparison with Chonburi,now in my case i still live in pattaya which might be little better then Chonburi..
I think the months march and april are good month for taking holidays from Chiang mai..
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You are quite right, Pattaya may well be better (or at least different) than Chon Buri (Amphur Muang). Unfortunately the Pollution Control Department doesn't measure (or at least doesn't publish) figures for Pattaya.
I think that you can trust the graphs. They are based on raw data from the Pollution Control Department ( http://www.pcd.go.th/AirQuality/Regional/QueryAir.cfm?task=default ), 3,429 observations for Chiang Mai and 3,556 for Chon Buri.
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You are saying the air in chiang mai is better then the air in chonburi pattaya really ?
and even in 2007 with that heavy smog in Cm the air was better compared then chonburi?
are you sure ? why so many lung problems for chaing mai residents then ?
i tried study your included statistics but i can not see all to clear...(same as smog day in cm perhaps hehehe)
One question at a time:
1/ The average pollution (PM<10) level in Chon Buri since January 2000 has been 55.1 µg/m3, in Chiang Mai it has been 46.2. I.e. Chon Buri has been 19% higher.
2/ In 2007 Chon Buri had an average PM<10 level of 81.2 µg/m3 and 48 days in excess of the Thai allowed maximum level (120 µg/m3). The corresponding numbers for Chiang Mai were 51.5 and 30 days, i.e. Chon Buri was ~60% higher on both counts.
3/ According to the research reports that I have been able to find, the high incidence of lung cancer in Chiang Mai is not attributable to ambient air pollution, but rather to indoor pollution of different kinds (radon, fungus spores etc). I am not a medical expert though, so there are certainly reports that I have not seen or understood.
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The air pollution problem is seasonal and lasts roughly from mid February to the beginning of April with peaks usually in March. During this time, PM10 concentration can reach four times the EU safety limits on bad days. On an average day in March, it is at 150% of the EU safety limit. During the remainder of the year, the air quality is fine, unless you happen to live next to a dusty road. There are minor variations in timing and severity each year. This year was very unusual, as we had lots of rain during the "dry" season, which prevented the smog from building up. Long time residents say it has been the coldest and wettest hot season in decades. I am somewhat pessimistic about short-term improvements, as the political will for that seems to be lacking. The smog affects all of Northern Thailand, as well as neighbouring countries. During the last few years, the pollution was even more severe in places Chiang Rai and Mae Hong Song. Some people cope by taking a holiday and leaving Chiang Mai during March.
Cheers, CMX
Just a note on the EU standard: There is no such thing as a "daily limit" in the EU standard. What is specified is the pollution level on the 36th worst day of the year (the 90th percentile, in statistics speak). It is consequently not really meaningful comparing daily observations from Thailand to the "European standard" (which incidentally large portions of Europe don't reach, either).
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There is usually a peak of particle pollution from mid-February through the end of March. This does however vary, last year the peak was in March-April and this year we did not really get any peak at all. This graph shows the average yearly pattern since the turn of the century (with Chon Buri thrown in for comparison, since you will move here from Pattaya):
It is however also true that the pollution levels have been significantly improving long-term. This graph shows 12-month averages as far back as they are available, and the trend for the same period (note that this is a trend line, not a forecast!):
I am sure that quite a few people on this board will post and tell you about the horrible year 2007. That year was truly very bad, but it is worth noting that it was much worse in Chon Buri.
Welcome to Chiang Mai, I'm sure you will like it here.
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I really like IKEA. Great concept. Great store. Thank you Sweden.
Whats so great about it ? ..i want to learn about the new religion of Ikea ;-) .... it mostly looked like cheap shit to me .In soft wood to ,that will not last in the Thai climate .
Well, they must be doing something right. The company was started in 1943 and has since grown to 135,000 employees in 44 countries. That kind of growth and size are, in my opinion and experience, not achievable by selling "cheap shit".
Incidentally, the founder and his family still own the company.
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Priceless, you should know better. Ikea certainly is doing something right from a business standpoint, but the growth you cite above proves nothing. Compare it to McDonalds and Walmart. imho, Ikea provides a mid-range product at a mid-range price. I don't miss having one here.
ymmv
Could you please explain what I "should know better"? I was merely pointing out that they seem to do things right "from a business point standpoint", which is exactly what their growth proves. Having spent most of my adult life in business, I have a lot of respect for people who do that right.
I have not said that I would like to have an IKEA in Chiang Mai. What i was doing was arguing with the "cheap shit" statement in the post that I replied to. I would however argue that IKEA is providing mid-range products at exceptional value for money, which has been the key to their success.
Incidentally, when I moved here in 2006 I brought a whole lot of IKEA furniture with me, including bookcases, a dining table, chairs, a leather sofa etc, etc. It was all used for, on average, five years before arriving here and it is all still looking as good as when it arrived. Thaifan2's idea that it would not stand up to the climate is obviously wrong.
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I really like IKEA. Great concept. Great store. Thank you Sweden.
Whats so great about it ? ..i want to learn about the new religion of Ikea ;-) .... it mostly looked like cheap shit to me .In soft wood to ,that will not last in the Thai climate .
Well, they must be doing something right. The company was started in 1943 and has since grown to 135,000 employees in 44 countries. That kind of growth and size are, in my opinion and experience, not achievable by selling "cheap shit".
Incidentally, the founder and his family still own the company.
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Good news ! Today Bingo came back to his holiday home, he was away for about a week.
Right after I heard about it I went to see him and my 2 other dogos, he looked good and we both were very happy.
Congratulations!
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Anyone know if Index and Ikea are the same company? Seems like they have a very very similar style and setup.
No, they are not. Guess who's the copycat...
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Within seven days either side of the exact date.
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the problem is if you wanted to go to asia 20 or 30 years ago and wanted to be welcomed safe and someplace cheap then thailand was one of the few places you could choice from
but as other country's in asia have become more tourist friendly and operate regular flights and dont have such a strong currency
thailand is loosing out and as much as they might pretend thais really dont care well not the ones that call the shoots anyway
thailands gdp is growing and the tourist income part of it is only 8 percent
they are the 3rd largest car producer in the world
the 3 rd biggest producer of halal meat in the world
plus rice fruit and cloths none of these things get drunk course problems fall of motor bikes or piss in the moat thats why tourism is not pushed as much as maybe it was in the past
as they dont really want it if they can replace it with big car factory's and so on then they will
the coup swine flu and other factors have just helped to keep the tourist out and pushed them to other shores
and as a tourist destination i dont really think chiang mai has that much to offer anyway its a semi modern city in a semi modern country
nice place to live but as a tourist finding things to do every day for two weeks i dont think its has more than 3 or 4 days of interest
then people move on
Until very recently tourism accounted for ~6% of GDP, so if it is now 8% that is a remarkable growth ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Thailand )
Also according to Wikipedia ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_motor_vehicle_production ) Thailand is not the third largest producer of motor vehicles but rather the 12th, behind minor countries like China, Japan, USA, Germany, South Korea and several others.
Maybe you should check your "facts" before posting them.
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So, are we on track to be open tomorrow, April 18th, or not, Mr. BiB ? If not, when do you expect to be finished with the remodeling ?
May I suggest this thread?
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[...]
I think it all comes down to our various personalities and how we interact with the various banks and the individuals involved. I think the poster is suggesting that BKK has a branch in NYC. I do not think this correct as BKK bank have only limited outlets in the west because of Western banking regulations. But I will not argue with the supplied information you received from your local Thailand branch of Bangkok Bank as to their international outlets or their various selling techniques to persuade you to use their services..
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From the Bangkok Bank Limited website ( http://www.bangkokbank.com/Bangkok%20Bank/About%20Bangkok%20Bank/About%20Us/International%20Branches/Pages/Branch%20in%20USA.aspx ):
New York Branch
The New York branch is a US federal chartered branch which functions as a wholesale bank.
There are many services available including:
Trade Finance
Corporate Lending
Remittance/Funds Transfer
Deposit Accounts (restricted)
Please contact the branch directly for more details:
New York Branch
Mr. Thitipong Prasertsilp, VP & Branch Manager
Bangkok Bank Public Company Limited New York Branch
29 Broadway, 19th Floor, New York
NY 10006
Business Hours: Mon.-Fri. From 9:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m.
Tel: (1-212) 422-8200
Fax: (1-212) 422-0728
Swift: BKKB US 33
E-mail: [email protected]
FED Routing No: 026008691
CHIPS ABA: 0869
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that's brings me to the same link as I was using, not sure 9 am - 9 am which day since it lists today already. Thanks for the info anyways
The (only) reliable reports on air quality in Thailand are found here: http://www.pcd.go.th...fm?task=default
In Chiang Mai the major pollution problem is particulate matter (PM<10). This is (in accordance with international standards) calculated as a 24-hour average, in the case of Thailand from 9 am one day to 9 am the following. I'm afraid you won't find anything better suited for your specific needs.
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The date posted on the PCD website is the ending date of the measurement. The figure of 83.1 µg/m3 for 06-Apr-11 is actually for 9 am to midnight on 05-Apr-11 and for midnight to 9 am on 06-Apr-11, i.e. 15 hours of the first date and 9 hours of the latter.
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I think the fundamental question boils down to this:
When we are visiting or living in a country other than our own, should
1/ We adapt to the customs, traditions and culture of the host country
OR
2/ The host country adapt to our customs, traditions and culture?
I for one am, and have always been, in favour of alternative 1/
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The (only) reliable reports on air quality in Thailand are found here: http://www.pcd.go.th...fm?task=default
In Chiang Mai the major pollution problem is particulate matter (PM<10). This is (in accordance with international standards) calculated as a 24-hour average, in the case of Thailand from 9 am one day to 9 am the following. I'm afraid you won't find anything better suited for your specific needs.
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The only reliable report being from a government website, oh blimey we must be buggered
A reason might be that only a very limited number of ThaiVisa members are willing to cough up the US $20,000-25,000 that a PM<10 measuring instrument costs (source: http://www.airimpacts.org/documents/local/pmberlin.pdf). That is of course before running costs.
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The (only) reliable reports on air quality in Thailand are found here: http://www.pcd.go.th/AirQuality/Regional/QueryAir.cfm?task=default
In Chiang Mai the major pollution problem is particulate matter (PM<10). This is (in accordance with international standards) calculated as a 24-hour average, in the case of Thailand from 9 am one day to 9 am the following. I'm afraid you won't find anything better suited for your specific needs.
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Pizza Rustica Is The Best Pizza In Chiang Mai!
in Chiang Mai
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The owner (Mr. Chan) has a Thai father and a Finnish mother, but was born and raised in the Swedish town of Uppsala. (His mother and his sister, Ms. Pauline, still live in Sweden.) Certainly not New Yorkers but not very Thai either
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