arfandy

On 10/22/2020 at 5:23 PM, ttkeric said:

Hello chaps. Writing this on my phone. Apologies for typos and grammar.

 

Just to report I've successfully applied for my marriage extension today at Chiang Mai immigration, the one by the airport. Would like to say the entire ordeal was almost undramatic, but of course TIT and the old foggy and general waste of air behind the first counter managed to find an issue to make my blood boil a little. I also speak as the Brits do and understate things generally...

 

But first, the requirements are per usual.

 

- Application forms and the usual assortment of forms the helpful volunteers at the front would hand to you.

- 2 visa size 4cmx6cm photos (1 for each form).

- Your passport (just photocopy everything, every stamp, etc)

- Kor ror 2

- Marriage cert

- Wife's ID card

- House book

- Kids Birth certs, house books.

- Map to house

- 2 pictures indoors and 2 out

- TM30

- 90 Day report slip (I do mine online, so no slip. Didn't bother to print).

- Letter from Bank

- Bank book showing 400k, updated with the

 

Where that piece of human excrement gave me an issue was with my bank book. My last update was last year for last year's extension. There was very little activity with this bank account of mine. An occasional deposit and spend. 

 

So, when I used the Passbook update machine, it just printed 3 lines of entry (one for accumulated deposits, ditto for withdrawals, and one to show the 1k I just deposited to update the passbook). 

 

Lump of Thai turd said he can't tell from the 3 lines if the 2 month seasoning has been met. I said the total never dipped below 400k anyways but nope, now he wants a proper 2 month statement.

 

It's barely 9 in the morning so Airport Plaza isn't opened yet, which means I'll have to drive around looking for a branch.

 

Of course, I asked if he had anything else he wants to waste my time with he started to go on about how he thinks our photos weren't clear. I ask if he'd like me to pay for a vision check for him since I printed them with a laser printer but at this point my wife dragged me away..

 

Off we went with this foreign husband cussing just about everyone he met.

 

Returned in about half an hour. Oh joy, Ebenezer is satisfied now. My turn came immediately; in fact the lady at counter actually waved and called us over.

 

Rest of it was uneventful.

 

So, that's the annual blood pressure exercise done and dusted. 6 years and honestly, I keep telling the family that daddy never stop thinking that he should pack up and leave before he well and truly losses his cool dangerously with this <deleted>ehole country.

 

Of note: my extension was due to expire 17 November. I'm to return on 17 December to my stamp. I normally count a month from application 'under consideration' to stamp, so I wonder if I earned a few days thanks to the amnesty? 

 

Also of note: amnesty or not, I did all my reporting as usual. Didn't want anything to come bite me in the behind someday

I'm confused why IO asked you for 2 months seasoned of 400k baht? You clearly have child (i assume he/she is Thai nationality?) and it is not necessary to season 400k for 2 months prior to visa application.

Isnt 400k seasoned 2 months only applicable for non-kids parent?

I screenshot article on bkkpost and attached here.

I have the same question. I applied for 60 days "visit wife" type of "extension" on the first week of September. Then government announced an extra 30 days amnesty but my 60-day permit is stamped and valid until Nov 25

Is there some kind of "unwritten" changes that my 60-day permit visit wife has been extended to Dec 25? IOs told me to apply for marriage based non imm O, 15 days before this permit expires and that was before another amnesty kicked in. Should i apply for non imm O on Nov 10 or Dec 10?

7 hours ago, JeffersLos said:

Get Your Flights Out or Extension for after 31st October now!!

 

On November 1st You Face Arrest, Prison and Blacklisting!!!

People like you who only speak such negativity like you can read the future, is toxic. Weren't you the one who wrote "On Sept 27 You Face Arrest, Prison, and Blacklisting!!!" about a month ago?

Just now, Pib said:

I expect you misunderstood their answer.  The Bt400K must be seasoned for at least two months before Non-O extension application.   

 

Maybe they thought you was asking if your applied for a Non-O visa "outside" of Thailand.

No, believe me i had asked the very correct question because i wanted to make sure if i must have 400k season for 2 months and officer at CW and MTT were assuring me i only need to print out my passbook and have 400k on the week i apply for Non-Imm O in Northern Province (yes, i cant apply at CW because my wife resides in North)

Just now, Bangkok Barry said:

I've read that this applies only if you have children.

Yes, i brought 3 of my kids along to CW and MTT, officer at MTT even helped me to carry my baby and she spoke really kind and convincing to me and my Thai wife. She guaranteed me that 2 months bank seaosn is not needed for me.

2 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

You need to show your updated bank book to prove the money is still in the bank and has been there for at least 2 months on the day you apply.

Then why was i told differently? I explicitly asked if 400k must be in the bank for 2 months and officers at CW and MTT assured me i do not need 2 months season. I went to CW and MTT, on the first week of Sept. The female officer at MTT suggested me to just borrow 400k from relative, a week before i apply for non imm o and i was puzzled and thought she was joking.

4 minutes ago, Pib said:

When using the deposit method of Bt400K it must have been seasoned for at least two months upon the application date.

I was told differently by officers at CW and MTT. Both officers said the same thing that to apply for non imm O, i only need to have 400k proof and do not need to season for 2 months. Both of them suggested me to just borrow 400k a week before i request the non imm o visa.

3 hours ago, Chris Hopkins said:

Got my 1 year marriage extension yesterday at Sisaket.   I think that you will need a legal translation of your marriage certificate from the Thai Embassy in the country where you got married.  My wife arranged that and we had no problem.  A friend did not and has to go back to Hong Kong to get it.

You will also need a 'Family' certificate from the appropriate office in your Thai locality.  Immigration will not issue a marriage visa without that.  A few other document require also...House Certificate, photos of the two of you, inside the house and out, showing the address plaque.   Perhaps other docs ?

 

 

Do you need to have 400.000 baht in bank for 2 months or only proof that you have 400.000 baht in bankbook by the time of application?

20k baht for 3 months visa is okay

Overstay and pay 20k baht is also okay

Getting banned for 2 years to enter the country when you overstay >1 year is also okay, considered covid-19 will hinder you from fly out until somebody finds a real working vaccines.

Choice is yours. But dont join those protesters, i wouldnt do that.

Take your kids along with you to Chaeng Wattana or Muangthong Thani Temporary Visa office, the earlier the better as the situation isnt too crowded and relax, so you will have more time to chit chat with IOs and she will explain what you need.

Bring all your documents, even if you are not sure if you need those. Personally i would suggest you to go to Muangthong Thani office, less crowded and IOs are very helpful too and based on your case, Muangthong Thani office is where you wanna visit. It's only ~7km away from Chaeng Wattana office, try to go before lunch time.

My case was quite similar as yours, except i had not used my 60 day permit but i already applied for it last week, 70 minutes queue at Chaengwattana then got told to go to Muangthong thani, 10 minutes done at MTT office. The IOs even helped me to carry my crying baby, they helped me photocopy all original documents, they helped me fill out those TM paper, and i only needed to give my signature and 1900 baht, then they taught me what to do 15 days before Nov 25 which is the day of my 60 day permit expires.

You will get more useful info if you go and ask yourself, maybe if you are in luck, you could get things done right away. But remember to take your kids (and wife) along. Would have been much better if you have baby, they will prioritize you in fear for the safety of baby.

Dont go to one of those small provincial immigration offices. You are likely get nothing but bad news and headache.

Best of luck.

1 hour ago, STD Warehouse said:

I’m pretty sure they will extend the amnesty. 
 

they (gov not immigration) will make announcement on 21st or 22nd about extending the amnesty.

 

i have no proof of this, only my personal view.

I did ask about the possibility of another visa amnesty while waiting IO to finish my paperwork at MTT, do you know what they answered?

None of IOs know what happens after 26 Sept, the lady told me to wait the gov announcement on the last week of it but those who do not want to take risk, are welcome to extend their visas anytime.

So yes, 50-50 gambling on 1900 baht vs 0 baht.

5 minutes ago, lemonjelly said:

Just to clarify, you received 1 year extension for the reason of being a parent of a Thai child on a visa that was originally issued for being married to a Thai? .... just double n triple checking.... sorry for being a nuisance ????

Two days ago i went to CW to get 60 day permit and IO there explained 400.000 baht DO NOT need to stay at the bank for 2 months prior to your visa request.

We got sent to Muangthong Thani shortly after because only there i can obtain 60 day permit and was told the same.

I am married to Thai and have 3 Thai kids. I would strongly advice you to bring your wife and kids when you apply visa (either CW or MTT) since IOs are having soft heart for babies and kids.

40 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

You can apply for a one year extension of stay based upon being the parent of a Thai or marriage to a Thai.

For being the parent of a Thai you would need 400k baht in a Thai bank on the day you apply for  marriage you would need 400k baht in the bank for 2 months.

Her is my list of required document for marriage. For being a parent change marriage certificate to birth certificate.

Marriage Extension Requirements 2.pdf 41.52 kB · 212 downloads

Hi Joe, just yesterday i went to Chaeng Wattana, waited for 50 minutes queue, then an IO checked up my documents and told me that i must go to MuangThong Thani for 60 day permit to visit wife (i brought along my entire family). Then my wife asked her how do i get non-Imm O after Nov 25 and she listed everything on mentioned on your attachment pdf, except that she ensures me i do not need 400.000 baht seasoned at thai bank for 2 months. It only needs be there 400.000 baht on the day i apply for non-imm O, and she suggested me to just borrow from Thai relatives a those amount of money by beginning of November. We then rushed to Muangthong Thani because time was almost 4pm

We arrived at Muangthong thani just before the office closed, got the 60 day permit in less than 10 mins, and IO there also explained to me that 400.000 baht is required BUT NO LONGER NEEDED to stay at the bank for 2 months. This information i got from 2 different IOs and they both ensured me that i only need to show the updated bank book with 400.000 baht on the day of application. The IO at Chaeng Wattana told me that this new system of 400.000 baht without 2 months seasoned at bank is new rule and to help more farang to easily obtain long term visa.

On 9/3/2020 at 8:10 AM, ubonjoe said:

Apparently they have changed it to Muang Thong Thani. At CW they were doing them at a different section than those shown for there.

60 day extension, do you mean 60 day permit to visit family? So CW is no longer issue 60 day permit and must be done at Muang Thong?

On 8/14/2020 at 12:34 PM, ubonjoe said:

If you have 400k baht in the bank now you can apply for a 90 day non immigrant visa (category O) that is required to apply for a extension of stay based upon marriage. The 400k baht only has to be in a Thai bank on the day you apply for the visa.

See: http://bangkokimmigration.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/06-edit_NON-O.pdf

The during the last 30 days of the 90 day entry you could apply for the extension of stay.

Hi Joe, previously you told me 400.000 baht must be seasoned on the thai bank account for at least 2 months (or 3?) before applying for Non-Imm O marriage based. Has the rule changed to "400.000 baht by the time applying for visa non-Imm O"? Tomorrow or the day after tomorrow i'm applying for 60 day permit, do you think i can apply for non-imm O marriage based AFTER my 60 day permit expires sometime on November 26?

That hotline 1178 is a bogus! Tried calling over 20 times, listened to the automatic answering then redirected to supposedly a real person but always got busy line. 

54 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

The 1178 number is for the Immigration Bureau.

You try "Telephone 0-2141-9889" shown on their website. https://bangkokimmigration.com/contact-division1/

 

Thanks joe. As always, you are very resourceful. 

I tried calling the immigration hotline 1178 over 20 times since yesterday and today, and couldnt get through any available officer.

Anyone here know any other direct contact number of Immigration Office Chaeng Wattana? 

Thank you

18 hours ago, Max69xl said:

Don't you have any friends or other family members that can look after your kids while going to CW? Try to go midweek, Wed-Thu. Normally less people there those days. 

Mom in law is about 800km away and she's scheduled to visit us in Oct or Nov. My kids dont really like to be left alone with strangers or babysitters, so the only choices i have are either going alone to CW or bring along the kids. I hope the place is not hellish like before covid-19 happened. We plan to drive to CW next Wed or Thu after songkran holiday.

1 hour ago, Peter Denis said:

@arfandy > Attached below the requirements to apply for a 60-day extension of stay for reason of visiting your Thai wife.

= = = = =

When you apply for the 60-day extension of stay for reason of visiting your Thai wife, she will have to be with you when you apply and she has to bring her ID-card and a copy of it. 

You would need to provide proof of residence.

If your wife is the owner of the place you are staying, a copy of the house-book from that place will do.  When renting, a copy of the rental agreement will be needed with signed copies of the owners house book and ID card signed by the owner.

To prove you are still married, you need to bring the original Kor Ror 3 (Thai marriage certificate) as well as a copy of it. And most offices will also want a recent printout (not older than 1 week) of your Kor Ror 2 (certificate of Thai marriage registration), which can be requested at any Amphoe and will be issued on the spot (cost between 5 and 20 THB).

You will also need a completed TM7 form with a 4 X 6 cm photo attached, as well as copies of your passport photo page, Visa sticker, entry stamp (with permission to stay date) and your TM6 departure card.

Thank you very much for complete guide on documents needed to apply 60 day permit. Just two question: does my Thai wife need to be present at Chaeng Wattana office when i apply? If yes, do you think it is best to apply TODAY (or as earliest as possible) while bringing my kids and newborn along? I recon the office might be incredibly quiet now but i'll need some confirmation before taking all family members there.

Yes, i have nobody to take care my kids for now. Mom in law is coming down to Bkk but that'll be on November.

3 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

No financial proof is needed to apply for the 60 day extension. It appears you qualify for one since you have not applied for one since you entered the country.

You should open a bank account in your name only and try to deposit 400k baht into you account. It only needs to be there for 2 months when you apply for an extension.  Or start doing the $1500 transfers into it.

Does you embassy issue proof of income documents that can be used to apply for an extension of stay. If they do then you could use it to meet the 40k baht income requirement for the extension.

Before you apply for the extension you will need to apply for a 90 day non immigrant (category O) visa entry. The 400k baht only needs to be in the bank on the day you apply for it. Requirements are here: https://bangkokimmigration.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/06-edit_NON-O.pdf

Thanks Joe. But i've been hearing about foreigners were rejected to receive 60-day permit to visit wife and some rogue IOs at provincial offices, reasoned that 60-day permit will count the day that 30-day visa extension finished which was before visa amnesty was given. Is this situation happening at Chaeng Wattana IO?

10 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

You can apply for 60 day extension to visit family. 

Can you meet financials to obtain non o based on marriage and subsequent annual extension. 

Re stamp prior to Sept 11, would be good idea.

Ask CW your path to annual extension based on marriage.

If nothing works out contact agent.

I dont meet up the financial THB 400.000 in the bank account, season for 3 months. I have been using my wife bank account to receive monthly $1500 since the lockdown started.

I only need to hold out until December 2020 and hoping the scheduled flight is still on track. Embassy has rejected to issue me paper to extend my visa, I think counsular hate the idea that his citizen must beg to stay in the Kingdom, hence so far none paper was issued to any stranded citizens.

My options are either legally pay THB 1900 every month for extension till December OR THB 20.000 when check out on December. Going through agents must cost more than 20k baht and i dont know how long it will take them to finish up the deal

We arrived in Thailand on mid of February, i was on 60-day Tourist Visa. 

Then earlier Apr 2020, i went to CW to extend my Tourist Visa.

The lady officer gave me 2 choices:

1. Apply normal 30-day Tourist Visa Extension then on 29th day i shall return and apply for 60-day permit to visit wife

OR

2. Completely ignored 30-day Tourist Visa extension and that lady would have immediately given me 60-Day permit to visit wife

I chose option 1 and paid 1900baht. Then a week later, lockdown and city gridlock happened and every foreigners were exempted from visa until Sept 27

Fast forward today, 

1. Given my situation (living with visa amensty) am i still eligible to apply for 60-day permit to visit wife?

2. I have contacted my embassy and them refused to issue me letter to apply whatsoever Thai visa. 

3. There is no airlines schedule to depart to my country. There is ONE, scheduled for December 3 but airlines has stated it is subject to change.

4. I have 2 kids and 1 newborn, and Thai wife. The hospital my baby was born, willing to issue paper to state that the newborn is NOT fit to fly (absolutely no face-mask 24/7 or he will suffer brain damage for prolong use of facemask)

5. I remember i was told my wife MUST be present while i apply for 60-day permit. Is Chaeng Wattana safe enough to bring my kids and baby along? (I just want to show the officers the living proof and i guess there may not be much of visitors for now)

6. What is that "stamp before Sept 11" if i need to get visa extension? Do i need to get that extension?

Please guide me what do i need to do with my situation until December 3 (i have not booked the plane yet since i do not want to waste time asking for refund multiple times in half year)

Ps. I have been advised to pay THB 20.000 upon departure and get 1 year ban period IF none of the legal option works out. No, marriage visai is not an option since i have been using my wife bank account to receive transfered money.

Thank you