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28 minutes ago, khunPer said:

This is what Hin Lat looks like after heavy rain (not yesterday), photo about two hundred meter further up the stream than Samui Jimmy's pictures – the quite big British guy, friend of mine, who insisted on taking a swim in the waterfall, he is an experienced "waterfall-swimmer", said that "the current was quite hard" – however, from my own view I find it strange that a silent stream can change from what's seen in Samui Jimmy's photos, and what it appear like, in the video. But we often hear about flash floods in the news, so probably one shall just be happy having not experienced one...

 

 

And just a note about the heavy rain in the morning in Maenam – rain in Maenam is no guarantee that it also rains in Nathon, vice versa...

Yes - as I said in Post #3 :- "It can be lashing down at one side of the island and dry as a bone at the other."

And as The Lobster puts it "The people were rescued. Happy Days. Time to move on folks ..................."

17 minutes ago, samuijimmy said:

 

That's the question that has me miffed ....  The news reports said Had Lat.(Lad) same same!  it was hard to tell from the video ....

 

I realize that we can have bursts of rain in very localized areas, but at lets call it the (north) top end of Samui.... nothing from Bang Por to Ma Muang falls, which my self and another member visited in the morning, before going to Hin Lat

 

Lamai rains, would not affect Hin Lat/ Lad falls, at least I  would not think so, with knowing the way the island is up "on top" over the various ranges and valleys up there.

 

 

This was taken at 13.39

 

 

 

This image was taken at 13.43 ..we were still there at 2pm. when this was reported to have happened.

 

 

 

 

 

 

17 minutes ago, samuijimmy said:

 

That's the question that has me miffed ....  The news reports said Had Lat.(Lad) same same!  it was hard to tell from the video ....

 

I realize that we can have bursts of rain in very localized areas, but at lets call it the (north) top end of Samui.... nothing from Bang Por to Ma Muang falls, which my self and another member visited in the morning, before going to Hin Lat

 

Lamai rains, would not affect Hin Lat/ Lad falls, at least I  would not think so, with knowing the way the island is up "on top" over the various ranges and valleys up there.

 

 

This was taken at 13.39

 

 

This image was taken at 13.43 ..we were still there at 2pm. when this was reported to have happened.

 

 

 

 

 

The water certainly seems a bit more turbulent in the video!

Having said that, I was there a few weeks ago, when the waters were pretty calm, and a girl got into trouble because she slipped off one of the boulders into a deep pool, and banged her head at the same time. Those boulders can be treacherous if they or your feet/shoes/flipflops are wet!

2 hours ago, samuijimmy said:

 

Where was torrential  on Samui the day before ? Certainly not at the north end, Bang Por / Maeman  or Nathon ....Saw no evidence going to Ma Muang waterfalls that there had been heavy rain.. trails were dry . (no puddles on road etc...) 

 

I just wonder if they reported the right waterfalls area.. hard to tell from the video... 

Given there were hundreds of people swimming and picnicking why does it focus on only one family being rescued .. many would have been in trouble ?

 

The one they mentioned is opposite way to the old Samui Immigration office...

 

khunPher says:- "There was a heavy (stormy) rain in the morning."

There was certainly heavy rain in the Lamai area the previous morning, and when you say "this waterfall" do you mean the Hin Lat waterfall, or was it another one?

54 minutes ago, khunPer said:

There was a heavy (stormy) rain in the morning. I've been told, that flash-floods can easily appear, and a few hours later everything is back to normal; however, never experience that myself, so can only say what locals tell.

 

The video looks like it could be Hin Lat waterfall; however I don't recall every stone, even I often come there and have also walked way up in mid of the stream several times (in proper weather conditions); probably other places can look similar, especially when you only see some water stream and stones...

"The video looks like it could be Hin Lat waterfall"

From the headline:- SAMUI: -- Rescue services managed to save a father and his two children who were  trapped by floodwaters at the Hin Lat waterfall on Koh Samui yesterday.

5 hours ago, samuijimmy said:

Find this story very strange.... Me and another member were at this waterfall yesterday... not a drop of rain in Nathon... 

 

This photo was taken about 1.40 and we were still in the area... when this is reported to have taken place.

 

There were hundreds of families at the pool area... 

 

 

 

It can be lashing down at one side of the island and dry as a bone at the other. As you can see in the video, it isn't actually raining, but the answer your dilemma seems to be in the line that says "earlier heavy rain". The day before, the rain was absolutely torrential, and the man and his family could possibly have become stranded on a boulder because they got caught unawares by a "flash" flood.

6 hours ago, Bluespunk said:

I would guess the tourist police guy was calling for help on his phone.

Which of course was there within seconds!

18 hours ago, lvr181 said:

Joined at 16? Bit slow in getting in was he? An ex-military friend of mine (nice guy now, sadly, deceased) joined the British army at age 15, legitimately!

Was that to fight in the first or second Boer War?

3 hours ago, prakhonchai nick said:

Legally married at 18, can work in a club or bar at 18, can be bar-fined at 18, but cannot drink until 20.  Rather strange. Cannot celebrate a marriage or baby birth until one is 20!

"Legally married at 18", and then you say "Cannot celebrate a marriage or baby birth until one is 20!"

Sorry - I am confused - what do you mean?

"It seems terrifically unlucky that all eleven CCTV cameras had been removed just at the time the dinner plate size object was removed by “persons unknown”."

Wonderful choice of words!

"He was taken to that spot yesterday afternoon to do some pointing."

Love it!

7 hours ago, Ross Macdonald said:

The crime was posting the video (of a sexual offence) online not recording it.
The person who recorded the video of the crime should have simply informed the police and not posted it online.

"The problem here is that the police only knew of the crime because it was posted online, so the police are not at fault here."

 

"The problem here is that the police only knew of the crime because it was posted online, so the police are not at fault here."

So are you saying that the police are in a Catch 22 situation? 

As a previous poster said, informing the police would probably have cause a shrug of the shoulders and nothing more. After all, the girl was drunk wasn't she, so it was her own fault, wasn't it? Was she wearing a bikini perhaps?

6 hours ago, gjoo888 said:

True, but it doesn't make them any less guilty. If they're dumb enough to post the video on social media, they deserve to get caught, and whoever filmed and posted the video sure didn't do anything to help the girl. 

Any less guilty of WHAT? Letting lots of people know what kind of low lifes there are in Pattaya? :-

"He said he was shocked to find out that he had been videoed and apologized to society for damaging the image of Pattaya. He said that he was very drunk."

What about apologising to the girl? And once again the ages old excuse:-  "He said that he was very drunk."

Oh, that's all right, then - he obviously doesn't need punishment, he needs help - I'm sure that a few fathers or husbands would like to give him all the help he needs!

11 minutes ago, CGW said:

Reckon it qualifies! as does below!

 

Peas in a pod?

15 minutes ago, CGW said:

Are you serious? take a look through history, every mass murderer has had a dodgy hairstyle! current culprit as well!

It is a proven fact there are more murders done by people with dodgy hairstyles than those with tattoo's!

Ask anyone who knows about these things!

 Is this a dodgy hairstyle?

Sorry - but to me it looks like hes confirming a date with a guy called Lucas at just after half past eleven!

Headline:- Top Spanish man gets death sentence for killing countryman in Bangkok

Topic:- Court to rule on gruesome murder case against Spanish man.

Which is it?

6 hours ago, Wake Up said:

I find it hard to believe many people expect the police to be everywhere. That is impossible. And probably if police were actually there the shooters would have not fired but waited for their opportunity to shoot at another time. Not defending Thai police  But tell me how any police force in the world is suppose to have psychic knowledge of where crime is going to be committed in the future to be there at the exact time of the crime. Or how police are suppose to magically prevent all crimes or be at the crime scene in seconds. Do you bitch just to bitch for fun sake or do you have anything positive to add?  

See Post #38

11 hours ago, wealthychef said:

Um, what police do you know of that come before or during an incident or accident?  You realize that there is this thing called "response time" and it kind of depends on how close the police are at the time of the incident and how long it takes to get there.  I don't understand why people are bitching about this aspect.  But I don't live in Pattaya.  Are the police there particularly slow?  What is a typical response time for a crime in Pattaya?  The one time I had trouble there was when a ladyboy snatched my waist pouch (yes I learned my lessons, thank you).  At that time a citizen helped me and a taxi took me to the police station.  

So there you have it in a nutshell! No police around, so a citizen helped you (you don't say how he helped you) and a taxi took you to the police station where no doubt it took a while to fill out the report and in the meantime, the ladyboy has disappeared over the horizon (or at least down the next soi where he/she/it has emptied your waist pouch, thrown it in the nearest pile of rubbish, and moved on to the next victim.) Oh, did the Police say they would let you know if they arrested anyone for the crime?

Oh, and by the way, there are plenty of situations all over the world where there are quite a few police on hand just in case there is an "incident" or "accident" - a typical Saturday night on any High Street in the UK is guaranteed to produce a few arrests because the police are aware of the probability of such occurrences, and I am sure that the same will apply in most other Western countries. I believe this is called "pro active policing" However, the same probability exists here in places like Pattaya where the "ladyboy crime" seems to be escalating daily, especially in certain areas in the early hours, but do you EVER see any police "footsoldiers" out and about at that time even showing the face of law and order - never mind doing something about it!

13 hours ago, garywim said:

The thing I noticed the most was no one uses their indicators in Thailand. What the "L " is wrong with them.

My pet peeve,  indicators .

"no one uses their indicators in Thailand."

Wrong! Many motorcyclists use their indicators, but it's anybody's guess as to which way they are going to go! They frequently forget to cancel the indicator once they have turned the corner, and drive on obliviously for miles with the indicator going and no intention of turning. 

But I do agree partly with your "pet peeve" as in the scenario where you are waiting at a junction to pull out on to the main road, and a slow moving  motorcyclist approaching from your right does not indicate, but turns left into your side road with no indicator going - now THAT is annoying!

17 hours ago, Bangkok Barry said:

Google 'Foam party'.

See Post #31

19 hours ago, brewsterbudgen said:

A party with foam pumped over the floor for partygoers to play around in.

Already answered in #Post 31

3 minutes ago, DSJPC said:

I will ask again...what the hell is a "foam party"???

If you select "Google" and enter "What is a Foam Party" you will get your answer!

But as you seem to be devoid of any initiative:-

7 hours ago, USPatriot said:

To the parents.  Stick to your guns, 1 million baht is nothing.  It was an accident but it was a party for profit.

 

This promoter will remember Safety first

 "1 million baht is nothing." In which case, I wish I had nothing in my bank account! 

3 hours ago, survivalblue said:

Traffic tickets and taxi fares after vehicles being impounded.

Plus the amount of people who were forced to use public transportation due to the passengers in pickup trucks regulation.

And those who were fined for violating the new rule.

This amounts to a great deal of spending for people.

People are spending baht because they couldn't get home fast enough.

I thought that the new pick up regulations regarding passengers in pick ups was being shelved until after Songkran? 

5 hours ago, stickyrice2000 said:

I don't know where Thaivisa is getting their information.  I believe in your information more.  It coincides with what the people who work daily are saying.  People are having a hard time.   Thai medias are being controlled.  We rarely hear anything bad about the military government.   

"We rarely hear anything bad about the military government."

And that is because you are not allowed to say anything bad about the military government!