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I consider myself non-dogmatic atheist.
Sir, I applaud your terminology
Agnostics are similar to bisexuals in a way, don't you think?
Not the same at all in my opinion.
Agnostics merely sit on the fence, scared of commitment to either faith or non faith. The nature of belief is you must choose one or the other.
Being bisexual means it is not an either/or situation. You can have your cake and eat it too. Bisexuals have declared their sexuality, have made their choice in life.
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Dump your childish beliefs in the supernatural and embrace non-belief. And bacon is delicious by the way!
what about dumping dumb opinions presented by irrelevant and childish remarks?
What is this obsession some people have with Muslims and Pork!!!?
I am reminded of a story from many years past. A university pal of mine was dating his childhood sweetheart. She was a truly sweet and innocent country gal. On occasion, my pal behaved abominably towards her. The belittlements and bullying always centred around meat.
For you see, the sweet and innocent country gal was a vergetarian. Oh, the apparent crime of choosing not to eat meat!
When we ate out for dinner as a group or at each other's house, he would inevitably order a meat dish of some sort. Steak was usually somewhere in the frame. At these times my pal always had the need to tell his girlfriend how good meat tasted, even holding the meat up to her face with his fork and making 'yum yum yum' sound effects, telling her she was missing out on this great tasting food.
Why was my pal so threatened by a vegetarian? His GF accepted his meat eating, why could he not accept her vegetarianism?
Whenever I hear the 'Pork' comment I am reminded of this story. Why do the actions of others bother some people so very very much?
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I strongly suspect that the world will be a better place when its peoples cast off all regions.
My dear man, I do believe that this is the very thing ASEAN is attempting to do.
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Moved to Gay Forum.
Why have you moved this to the Gay Forum? I am offended.
This is NOT a Gay issue, this is a discussion of tolerance in Thai society.
Really! This is what my post is all about. Being pigeon-holed as a 'Gay' or 'Muslim' by Westerners! You have pigeon holed me again by making this a Gay issue.
Just because I am gay, that does not mean I want all my discussions and postings to be universally placed in the Gay Forum. I encourage wide views and opinions.
Please move this back to General where it is most appropriate.
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With the month of Ramadan upon us it is for myself a time of personal reflection.
Thailand is one of the most accepting countries in the world in regards to sexuality and religion.
Why do so many Western expats find the relation of being gay and Muslim so contentious? You can be Christian and Gay. You can be Jewish and Gay. You can be Buddhist and Gay.
I am gay and I decide my religious beliefs, no one else decides for me. Many Westerners that pass through my sphere believe they are entitled to offer me advice on my lifestyle and the ‘correct’ paths that I should follow. Pffft! I say to them.
I never get sexuality or religious advice from Thai people. Never!
I was born into a Muslim family in the West. My family practised Islam and so I grew up practising it also.
When some people think of Islam or a Muslim they think of the women being forced to wear Hijabs and men with long beards. Of course some Muslims are that stereotype but so many Western Muslims and Thai Muslims are not.
In Western countries many Muslims practise a less strict form of Islam, choosing less attendance at worship, hijabs that are a fashion more than a hindrance. Many younger Muslims will drink alcohol and yes of course, there are plenty of gay Muslims. Trust me on that.
I am not a Religious scholar so I can only speak for my view of Allah and my view of Islam. For me there is no rule or law against being gay and being Muslim. Like the Bible, there are thousands of different interpretations of the Quran. There are entire educational eco-systems dedicated to the debate and study and interpretation of such documents.
In Thailand I can be gay and Muslim and proud of it. I thank the Thai people for accepting my partner and me.
During your day spare a thought for all the variations life offers up to us and find acceptance in your heart for others.
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Thank you all for your postings and feedback.
I settled on the recommended SmartHome a week back and have had some startling results!
I will post later when I have the time.
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My dear skyhi,
The most obvious solution provides the correct answer here.
Your landlord was in the room while you were not in attendance. He took 8000 baht and left 4000 baht in the envelope.
He left you the 400 baht because some Thais beleive all farangs are rich and some very stupid, so you would not notice the money was gone.
Or he left 4000 baht because he reasoned that if you glanced at the envelope you would believe all your money to be in its place and would not count it.
Ignore the conspiracy theroists and their bitter self experience barbs about your partner possibly being responsible. You have shared funds already so why would he steal from himself?
What can you do about it? You can move.
Can you get your money back? No.
Can you vacate the toom and leave some fresh fish well hidden somewhere? Yes.
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My wife of 20+ years stole money from me. We also had shared finances.
My children have stolen money from me.
Not to mention my accountant, cashier, etc.
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You must be easy to steal from or slow to learn
Where do you live?
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I apologise for some of my posts in this thread.
Like a Mexican special blend Hot Sauce in the mouth my emotions sometime explode.
To get back to the topic at hand and to make my position clear...
Gay dads do not make better fathers but nor do I think gay dads make worse fathers.
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Taking the gay element out of this, the children brought up by same sex guardians just like adoptive children are going to be denied their true family heritage, extended family, grandparents, uncles, aunts, siblings and of their real biological identities and later knowledge of who they really are and where they actually belong, plus the added disadvantage of having been brought up by 2 men or 2 women that in today`s society still does not fit in no matter how much the do gooders try to publicise that this is acceptable, not my prejudices, but the way many societies perceive this as a whole. The children could face being ridiculed by cruel kids at their schools and in their neighborhoods.
During my childhood I idolised my parents, especially my mother including my grandparents who although my grandparents departed over 20 years ago I am still grieving for them today. I could never bear the thought of having been adopted by 2 same sex parents and all that having been taken away from me.
What on earth could 2 same sex parents take away from you?
Do you honestly think that gay men or women might not have Mothers, Fathers, sisters, brothers, Uncles, grandparents, cousins, Aunties?
Extraordinary!!
What a ridiculous response, you are putting innuendos into my comments that simply are not there.
Of course people of the gay persuasion must have relatives just like anyone else, but my point is if I had 2 same sex adoptive guardians, their relatives won`t be my relatives or those of the kids they adopt, plus the absence of a maternal or paternal side of a family, which means in later life these kids would be missing out and probably totally confused as to what they are and who they are, including what are the parenting roles of each of their adoptive same sex parents.
I don`t give a rat`s behind whether this is a gay issue or not, it is the well being and stability of the children's upbringing that must be taken into consideration.
Sorry pal, but on this subject we must agree to disagree.
I believe you are the type of person who would find fault with perfection but I do not hold that against you. This could well be a result of your childhood and upbringing? Is the rich vein of negativity you possess and have shown throughout your posting life on Thai Visa a result of the parenting imparted on you?
The fact is you DO give a rat's if it is a gay issue so don't try and hide behind that falsity that you don't.
You don't like gay people as parents and it shines brightly through in your postings through your narrow minded view of what makes good parenting, what children need as guidance though the younger years and postulating that children with same sex parents will somehow miss out or be scarred in life.
When you posed the question as to who makes better parents it is now obvious that was merely a springboard to put forth your own fixed and intransigent view point.
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Taking the gay element out of this, the children brought up by same sex guardians just like adoptive children are going to be denied their true family heritage, extended family, grandparents, uncles, aunts, siblings and of their real biological identities and later knowledge of who they really are and where they actually belong, plus the added disadvantage of having been brought up by 2 men or 2 women that in today`s society still does not fit in no matter how much the do gooders try to publicise that this is acceptable, not my prejudices, but the way many societies perceive this as a whole. The children could face being ridiculed by cruel kids at their schools and in their neighborhoods.
During my childhood I idolised my parents, especially my mother including my grandparents who although my grandparents departed over 20 years ago I am still grieving for them today. I could never bear the thought of having been adopted by 2 same sex parents and all that having been taken away from me.
What on earth could 2 same sex parents take away from you?
Do you honestly think that gay men or women might not have Mothers, Fathers, sisters, brothers, Uncles, grandparents, cousins, Aunties?
Extraordinary!!
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; do you think that for children having same sex guardians or being part of a 1 parent family is as beneficial as having a mother and father? If you do, why? And if you don`t; why?It is not an either/or question, rather it is a complicated process to determine who will make the best father, mother, parents. No such thing as a one size fits all.
You can have a man and a woman as the parents. One or both might be meth heads and are parentally useless.
You can have a man as sole parent. He might be a meth head and be totally useless.
You can have a woman as sole parent. She might be a meth head and be totally useless
You can have two men as the parents. One or both might be meth heads and are parentally useless.
You can have two women as the parents. One or both might be meth heads and are parentally useless.
I hope you get my point from above.
Parenting skills are not derived from sexuality or coupled status. Same for the benefits children receive from parenting; the results are not dependant on the sexuality or coupled status of the parent/s.
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SmartHome brand which is sold at Big C etc sells a sort of a copy of the magic bullet.
Only 700 baht.
I haven't used the Magic Bullet to make a comparison but the SmartHome is a nice to use.
Small footprint, easy to clean. Affordable. Comes with some interesting parts like french press for coffee, tea.
I like it except for the silicone gaskets are tricky to stay seated.
That price is very reasonable. I should clarify I don't care if it is a patented Magic Bullet or a copy brand. (did the Magic Bullet copy the copy brand?)
How do you find the SmartHome over a traditional blender? Does the SmartHome do a better pulverising job?
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Now listen up you lot ... we still have a limited places for the odd Gay Uncle or two.
Dear boy! I have been called odd and I am Gay!
Please send me an applicaton form if positions remain
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I am considering buying a blender when I vist the States later this year. I have read all sorts of differing health claims for the bullet blenders but are they really that much more successful at delivering nutrients over a traditonal style blender?
My questions are:
*Has anyone used these bullet style blenders?
*Are they any better over traditional style blenders?
I will be adding fruit and vegetables to the blender and using it to make what is hopefully a healthy and delicious drink.
Bullet Blenders example:
Traditional style blender examples:
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=blenders&go=Submit&qs=n&form=QBIR&pq=blenders&sc=0-0&sp=-1&sk=
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It is interesting how some posters approach the issue of my size. I freely admit i am overweight (fat). I do not find either of those terms offensive as they are factual and can be used in a rational and non insulting manner for discussion on this topic.
However, why do some posters like to use the terms as an insult? Or why do they choose to substitute what they consider more insulting words for 'overweight' or resort to derogatory colloquial terms, often adding an exclamated! swear! word to the end of the sentence? example: "You useless fattie faced pri#k!!"
I am not personally offended by the childish attacks but rather I am fascinated by the type of people who make such infantile banter. It reminds me of early school years in the play ground when boys would tease the girls or make grand comments such as 'Tommy has poo on his shoe. Tommy likes Poo!!' or 'Jenny wears glasses. Jenny is a four eyes!'. It was funny at age 7 but by age 12 just seemed stupid.
Obviously most rational and mature people would feel such comments reflect poorly on those making the comment, but I also wonder at why these people have so much venom and hate towards trivial life matters? It really is just some extra weight someone else is carrying and I cannot see how it affects your life at all. No need to go into meltdown and raise your blood pressure over it.
If you feel my weight is responsible for breaking the chair then why not say so in a calm and adult manner using polite language?
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I hope you rent a jetski in Pattaya or Phuket some day and they charge you because it's "broken". Because I want to see you whining here about it so that I can say:When fatties aren't fed on time they can make quite a scene.
The bottom line of this lame thread is:
Accept responsibility for your actions. Don't whine like a spoilt child or insist that other people clean up your mess. You're responsible for what you break. Man up and pay up.
Sent from my GT-I9500 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app
"You are responsible for what you break. Man up and pay up!"
Now, that gave me my best laugh for the day!
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It was merely a factual correction of the previous comment re: "Mrs".
It is completely unnecessary as the first comment was facetious.
please withdraw these comments as they are clearly making comments on the OP's sexuality which has no relevence to the thread..
Can you give me the appropriate email to report this?
My partner is male, and he was the one with me and who filmed and showed his FB selfie to guide us through.
Early on in the thread, a few posters assumed my partner was female, and this was corrected by several helpful chaps, who did so in a pleasant enough manner.
While my sexuality is of no relevance to the thread, it is the reasons stated above why several people did mention it.
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What a fascinating anecdote.
Why, thankyou for your support and admiration my Dear Tubby!
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Personally Dude, I suggest you don't feel embarrassed about what other's might think of you.
I am certain that not having your validation is validation enough I am in the right
Now, which of the following is it that you don't like about me?
a. That i was complaining?
b. That I am fat?
c. That I am gay?
d) That I am overweight?
e. That I am complaining about Thais pulling a BS scam on me because I am a/b/c and d?
Gentlemen, I do not wish to cast aspersions on your comprehension and reading skills, but you do realise that 'b' & 'd' are the same thing? When I was told I was 'fat' I don't think the poster meant that I was a lump of congealed cooking waste.
Now, I never said it was a scam, but I did say it was outrageous and I maintain it is outrageous.
Had I been jumping up and down on the chair, dancing on the chair, standing on the chair, coupling on the chair, and the chair had broken during any one of these tasks, I would have put my hand up as being at fault and paid for the damage.
No, all I was doing was sitting down in the chair. A simple task performed billions of times across the world daily.
Let me pose you this question:
According to yourselves and others, I was too heavy for the chair. What then is the weight cut off for someone to become 'too heavy' for any given chair? Please tell me your expert opinion.
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I'm surprised that anyone takes the OP seriously. It's far too contrived.
A gay Muslim [so what], four cinema torch bearers, a crazed banshee, a stroke of genius by the OP's partner filming the manager's minions then his selfie with the media mogul shoved in their faces and they all cower in reverence, Tom Cruise this and that.
Absolute BS. I wasn't born yesterday.this story is an obvious troll but everyone fell for it.
I have often wondered if cynicism is brought on by age. It seems only natural that the older we get, the more negative experiences we have under our belts, the more it is that human nature will distrust. Is cynicism a choice, much like positivity is a choice? I believe it is.
Because my story is unusual should it this be disbelieved? Of course not.
Here is an unusual story, yet also true: When i was ten years olds I played Soccer. I was a big boy in height and girth back then and I played the position of goal keeper. Despite being big I was also athletic and it was a rare occasion that any balls would pass my goal posts untouched by myself.
On this day the opposing teams striker shot high and wide across my goal and I dived for the ball at full stretch, my arms stretched to their fullest. My timing was perfect but my line was off, the result was I dived headfirst into the side goal post, the force of which moved the side pole outwards and had the effect of loosening the cross bar above, which fell, landing on top of me and breaking my arm. Back in those days the structures were timber, assembled and dismantled at start and end of season, so perhaps the wood was rotten, or just not bolted in as it should have been.
The point of relating this anecdote from my youth is that such a story seems like fantasy, but that is what happens in life: unusual events. The re-telling of the unusual happenings does not make a person a troll.
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If you step on a ferry and it capsizes, causing people to drown, then don't go blaming them or the ferry owner. Be a man and just own up to your faults.
Are you suggesting that the addition of 120 kilograms to a ferry carrying vehicles and passengers already weighing in excess of maybe 50,000 kilograms, that 120 kilograms is the tipping point? And that even though the ferry is not moving when I step on, that it will somehow capsize? When will i know when to step on the ferry and put these horrific events into action? Do you think this would make a good disaster film? 'Capsized!'
When my partner despairs at the Thai educational system I like to show him posts by Westerners such as yourself Tubby. It really does give him hope for the future
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Maybe we should be ashamed!!!Gluttonous fatties should feel ashamed of all the waste and destruction they create, all the space they take up, their morbid overconsumption.
Pay up for the damage you caused, and no further whining. You owe that to the cinema.
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But then there are others that should be ashamed too like those driving a car, riding a motorcycle, using taxi and bus instead of walking or riding their bicycle. All this overconsumption of oil!!!
And also people buying these functional clothes made from synthetic materials to use while exercising instead of using natural fibers. It's a big waste of resources.
And everyone that are eating fish or shrimp or anything from the sea as we are overfishing the sea and uses 1,5 kg of fish for feed for every kg of fish from the farms.
And everyone buying clothes that are not taylor made as its a waste of fabric, exploration of poor people and so on.
All the tourists and free loaders living here or anywhere and don't do do anything for the country/world.
Not to talk about these absurd athletic activities like world cups and Olympics when people traveling the around world to play or watch a sport that they could do at the local arena in their home city, that is absurd over consumption!!!
Finally everyone using internet, watching TV, turn on their fans or airconditioning should also be ashamed as they are using unnecessary electricity.
So let me say: I'm sorry that I'm fat and destroy your world by eating, my obesity it's genetic. Atleast I don't drive. I use my bicycle, walk or public transportation. I don't own a TV and I use fan instead of air-con most of the year. And I don't pay income tax here in Thailand... I donated enough to charities so I don't have to pay tax.
If you "tubby" do any of the activities listed above then I want you to apologize to the rest of us for destroying our world!
I feel breathless after reading this!
These are well made points sir though I am sure they will not be understood by Tubby Bubby
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The same thing happened to me at Siam Paragon. I sat in the seat and adjusted the seat to lean back a little and then I heard a snap. The next thing I know I was in the row behind me looking up at some started Thai's who were like looking at me. Luckily there were some younger Thai people, looked like they were still in high school, helped me to get back up and one Thai couple who sat next to me kindly moved one seat over.
After the movie was over with, I went and reported it to the movie staff. They looked at it and said not to worry. One of the staff members asked if I was alright, though with my back being a little sore I said I was ok but had lost my glasses in the fall.
A few days later the manager at the movie place called me and informed me they had found my glasses.
I did not imagine I was the only person this had happened to. While a little different in that the back of the chair broke for you, it shows that it can and does happen.
I am joyed to hear that your experience was the opposite of mine and that the staff showed their concern and followed up.
Siam paragon cinemas are at the pinnacle of bangkok cinema establishments and many Westerners attend here so maybe they are experienced and trained to handle with appropriate care.
Being Muslim and Gay in Thailand
in Gay People in Thailand
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Sir, you need to concern yourself more with your own views and interpretations of life and worry less about what 'others' think.
"South African Muhsin Hendricks is an Islamic cleric and a gay man.
He runs a foundation called The Inner Circle, which helps Muslims, who are struggling to accept their sexuality. He has come to the Netherlands to spread a simple message: “It’s okay to be Muslim and gay!”
Muhsin Hendricks looks a little tired. He is in the Netherlands at the invitation of the Amsterdam branch of gay rights organisation COC and he’s on a punishing schedule. There is enormous public interest in the “pink imam”, as he’s been dubbed.
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But every trace of fatigue vanishes as Mushin Hendricks talks about his faith and his sexuality."
http://www.rnw.nl/english/article/gay-imam-spreads-message-homosexuality-not-sinful