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If they haven't realised by now they never will.

What does it really matter who started it? It was the way that it was continued and ended that is the concern.

And then they beat and kick them to death or close to it and that's fair enough is it? ! In this case you are making assumptions that the incident occurred because the farangs disrespected the culture. Not that you have any idea that this is true, but it supports your irrational belief that Thais can do no wrong. It's a bit laughable anyway suggesting that culture and genuine local ways can be found within a girlie bar in Pattaya.

They are no doubt tourists. Do you expect foreigners coming for a holiday to be aware of the subtle nuances of Thai society and behaviour? Bouncers in tourist areas need to act with restraint and professionalism and defuse rather than inflame situations that they are called on to sort out. These guys are out of control thugs and to suggest that tourists bring a severe beating on themselves by yelling is an absolute nonsense, the sort of crap that a certain unfortunate sector of expats and others tend to spout each time an incident like this occurs.

I think the bad guys in this instance are the security guards. Nothing worse than a security guard who can't contain his aggression, who goes overboard with violence instead of keeping a level head as the job requires.

$160,000 for that package is outrageous.

An awful article from a junk media source that produces no proof of type or severity of impairment. Just another cheap shot at legalised weed.

The plants will be treated like flowers were in the Adams Family home, with the buds cut off and thrown away and the stalks retained for God knows what purpose. Stalks, seeds, leaves and oils with no THC are not going to support a medical marijuana market.

It might have many uses, but one of them is not getting you stoned. You ever hear of anyone using seed, stems and roots to get high?

Yes it would. Only the buds have THC which is what is tested for. The rest of the plant is utterly useless even for medical purposes. Medical marijuana in Australia is largely about bud and potent ones too. No one is going to buy any medical product that is devoid of THC. No one in the business or who uses would have been relieved by this decision as claimed in the poorly conceived article. It 's a disaster for all concerned. I coming in July for a month and this will no doubt be my last opportunity to buy buds. Pretty sure this will be my last visit as the illegal stuff is much easier to get hold of in neighbouring countries.

What a fun person you would be! Obviously not a veteran of the early days of travelling Thailand.

What has that got to do with being stabbed by five men? Surely the tourist is entitled to be wherever he likes whenever he likes on vacation. I can think of plenty of reasons why a foreigner might do an all nighter. Get sick of reading comments suggesting the English guy is at fault.

She is probably an influencer or some such nonsense. Or at least some job that can be done from afar.

Exactly my thoughts and most of the posts have avoided any blame of Thais. When I lived there 6 months in 1996, the Thai workers in the bars loved the opportunity to crack a bottle over the head of some foreigner playing up. Seems like in this instance its a gang setting on one person, so you'd think posters would be a bit more circumspect than simply blaming the Brit. It's not really a nice area of Thailand. Tourists do stuff that gets them hated and eyes light up when a chance for revenge is presented.

What a weird offence - 'committing theft at night'! Why differentiate the time of day? Theft is theft.

I have to disagree. I was a cigarette/joint smoker and gave up smoking cigarettes 10 years ago and have vaped weed ever since. I have no problem with my lungs which feel perfectly healthy unlike when I was a smoker. I don't believe weed vaping is harmful to the lungs. It's not like tobacco vaping where people are consuming nicotine and harmful chemicals.

You are just another person who all too obviously knows nothing from experience or in theory that adds anything to the discussion.

I'm 71 and used it everyday since I was about 20 without any health problems. Same applies to my friends.

What a fool you are making of yourself! I'm 71 and been around weed all my life and one side effect I have never ever seen or heard of is brain haemorrhaging, particularly people dying from it.

You must have only recently discovered SEA and the pleasures it offers. You obviously weren't a regular in the 60s and 70s. You've seen the effects have you in your very limited experience of the drug?

Easy to see you only caught up with Thailand once it became a destination for the straight and boring folk.

I bet you didn't get to Thailand till at least the late 90s when the country started to believe it needed to become squeaky clean for the sake of its citizens and visitors.

There's grass and a hedge behind. More appropriate spots to pee seem to be in abundance.

They look Chinese to me and stands to reason they would be. The girl might not be at fault but the parents certainly are.

You obviously were not among the original tourists to come here from the 60's on because Thailand offered something a bit more risque and wild west like than boring old western countries. Console yourself with the fact that you are not alone. There are many super straight westerners who seem to have discovered Thailand once it became even more conservative in its thinking than the western countries supplying the tourists. I seriously do not understand the attraction of Thailand over the home countries of these people. Fortunately I will again be able to spend a slab of time in Thailand before Thaksin and his reactionary comrades turn the place into a boring yawn-fest again.