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angiolo

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  1. A 2nd vote could come along. Don't be so quick to diss the peaceful protestors. It was peaceful protesters against the US war in VN which influenced that war. Initially, powers-that-be were chiding the protesters as a bunch of bedraggled hippies who didn't know how to brush their hair.

    I think a 2nd vote would reverse Brexit.

    Well there will be no second vote .,and there should not be one .Lets not make a mockery of our GREAT country. ANGIOLO with love

  2. The EU's big mistake was letting Bulgaria and Romania

    join,with free movement of people,it was obvious what

    was going to happen,plus too many stupid regulations,

    over ruling the laws of the land,what started as a trading

    bloc,grew into a monster wanting to control everything,

    as more countries see sense they will want to be free as

    well,

    regards Worgeordie

  3. Well the baht has already dropped substantialy , so that's the only thing that concerns me. So if you need to withdraw funds to transfer here to live on, your standard of living is going to fall especially in the short term.

    I can see many ex-pats having to return to the UK as they won't be able to afford to live here any longer.

    Have patience , the pound will rise . Now we have a PANIC situation. wich will sort itself out shortly. Angiolo

  4. Links are corrupted to both SEP 23 & 24 2014 PBS articles. There is an excerpt from the 23 SEP article above. This is excerpt from the 24 Sep article:

    Police interrogated Woraphan Toovichien, 49, a village headman and owner of AC Bar which is located near the murder scene, and his brother, Montriwat Toovichien, owner of In Touch resort and caretaker of AC Bar.

    Both gave good cooperation to the police and they denied they had any connection. DNA samples of the two brothers were collecting for testing and were later proved to not match with DNA collected from the scene and the victims body.

    Both were later freed.

    Eighth Region Police Command commissioner Pol-Lt Panya Mamen said both men gave good cooperation and answer all questions. Both gave very useful information to the police, he said but the police could not elaborate.

    They were not arrested but just in police custody, he said.

    Here is a live link to the Sept 24th article and Panya was still very much in charge http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/new-twist-murder-two-brits-koh-tao/

    Ill add in the shocking and new revelation about Withridges vaginal tear does not prove or disprove anything- to claim a rape did not take place because allegedly this laceration happened in the Thai autopsy is misinformation, inference and outright fabrication.

    It is very possible Witheridge was not conscious when she was sexually violated. Not resisting. The initial confessions made the claim she was unconscious.

    Here' my rebuttal to the 10 point meme that has been posted repeatedly throughout the thread....

    1). The handling and lack of chain of custody of the DNA samples was widely criticized, the missing wine bottle and cigarette butts as well as the female victims clothes, all said to have carried vital DNA evidence, were missing entirely from the trial.

    Rebuttal: All said to have carried vital DNA . Thats a misleading inference- who said this? And where can I find a reputable source that mentions a wine bottle was included in original evidence? The cigarette butt had DNA extracted from it and that was evidence and a DNA match as presented in those reports. That evidence was offered to defense for retesting, but defense declined. It was never used up.. wasnt that more of ill-advised police comments made to press being touted as testimony and evidence. So many times police make these sort of comments, unprofessional, sure, to those of us from the west especially, but evidence of a vast cover-up? Hardy If Thai police would make it a mandatory policy to not allow personnels unauthorized, offthe-cuff opinions to be uttered to press, it would go a long way in restoring a semblance of professional ability.

    2). The lack of CCTV footage of the crimes linking the two men to anywhere other than the crowded beach has caused grave concern and of course without a single piece of CCTV footage, or a single witness to the actual crime, it is hard to believe that any court could find the two men guilty without reasonable doubt and sentence them to death.

    Rebuttal; Hard to believe is a highly subjective opinion and is not admissible as evidence. There is no CCTV on the beach and it is well established the convicted were in the vicinity of the crime.

    3). Their DNA was never found on the murder weapon. The actual DNA on the murder weapon matched neither of the accused.

    Rebuttal; Cloth can be used to hold a weapon, indeed it is standard criminal behavior to cover up a crime in this manner.

    4). Fingerprints from the accused on the mobile phone that belonged to one of the victims were never produced. This raises the question of who they actually belonged to. There was absolutely no forensic evidence presented by the prosecution connecting the mobile phone to the accused.

    Rebuttal; Question of who they belonged to meaning what? Fingerprints or the phone? Again standard procedure for criminals to wipe off surfaces that might later yield incriminating evidence. Also the phone may have been handled by several people smearing prints.

    5). The prosecution speculated that the motive for the attack was the accused being aroused by both victims having sexual intercourse on the beach. There is no evidence to suggest this ever took place.

    Rebuttal; Mr. Miller was nude- this is certainly suggestive he was embarking upon a sexual encounter.

    6). The Thai autopsy was no more than a four page summary by the doctor. The legally required autopsy file documenting the procedure with step-by-step photos and point to point analysis was never presented.

    Rebuttal; Was it asked for by defense? Why not? And what standard is this requirement- Thai or UK?

    7). The DNA tests presented by the prosecution were not provided with the necessary supportive documents showing multiple procedures required to meet ISO 17025 standards required in DNA testing, including the chain of custody, method of testing, graph generation and analysis report.

    Rebuttal; Judges are not forensic scientists, the reports are highly complicated and were condensed into a simpler form judges could understand. It was up to the defense to present experts to refute a prosecutions case. They did not which might lead one to believe defense really does not want the DNA evidence looked at too carefully

    8). The police claimed a 100% DNA match with the accused from samples taken from the victims body this is scientifically impossible in any forensic lab anywhere in the world.

    Rebuttal: This statement does specify which police stated this or when. Police often make ill advised, off the cuff remarks to anyone wholl listen- they are not forensic scientists either. It may well have been a personal opinion I know its true 100% completely taken out of context and used as evidence of a conspiracy.

    9). During the interrogation a hostile interpreter was appointed by the police who cannot read written Thai. The defendants were never properly advised of the murder charges nor their rights under Thai law.

    Rebuttal:This too is not specific. Which interrogation- when they were first interviewed? Or when police were connecting them to the crime? Why does an interpreter in an verbal interview need to know how to read Thai?

    10). The suspects were arrested on unrelated charges before being questioned about the murders without an attorney present and their statements were entered as part of the prosecutions evidence. This is a violation of Thai law and grounds for dismissal of the case.

    Rebuttal; Once arrested, anything they said was admissible on any inquiry. But true, lack of an attorney present is the one detail, a technicality, that might see them released. It has worked time and again for other criminals. However seeing the high profile of this case and the connection with perceived tourist safety, I would not expect the judges to fall for this trick.

    your rebuttal reads like drivel to me...sorry.
    Well I think that you have put in a lot of good thinking.A good effort. Angiolo
  5. Yeah, ok. So a patient that was undergoing chemo took extracts as well and has miraculously recovered from her cancer,, so must be the sesame seed extract.

    I would not trust a single thing that comes out of a Thai lab. They cannot even effectively manage DNA evidence from criminal trials so how on earth are they going to suddenly become global leaders in cancer treatment when thousands of highly funded labs all over the world have been fighting this for years.

    Come on folks , we all know this is the HUB of medical research.

  6. hey guys ,lots of rain in MAE Sai for three days now. More on the way,good continuous storms. Humidity 90% Temperature 30 C. WET...WET . What is this about a drought ?

  7. store more water before the rainy season

    Um, shouldn't more water be stored before the dry season?

    Considering the NOAA has revised the probability of La Nina conditions developing to 75%, and we all remember what occurred during the last La Nina, wouldn't it be wise to have as much storage capacity available as possible?

    Stop. Using. Logic. The laws of reason have been suspended in favor of Article 44.

    Logic ....obvious , if you don't take any water out then it may fill up again.LOL

  8. Public bus type transportation/walking is safe (much safer than getting into a taxi) and what most people use if young woman.

    My Burmese girl friend was raped in a THA taxi . Oh , Thai men don not do this .????????

  9. See. They will fight on the technicalies of the case.

    The new mantra.

    Maybe they are innocent.

    Maybe they are guilty.

    It doesn't matter ☺☺

    Protocol was not followed.

    Bullshit.

    Guilty as sin. even their own lawyers don't shout their innocence anymore.

    Would like to see the death sentence overturned. Other than that, right where they should be.

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    Whats the matter with you ? Are you a Burmese Basher ? Of course they did not do this murder. Pretty obvious >>RIGHT.

  10. When Songkran arrives every year I have a simple strategy, If I am not leaving the country, I'm not leaving the house. There are a number of reasons for this but chiefly it is for safety reasons and certainly road safety. I think the incredible thing is not that the road death toll is so high. The incredible thing is that it is not so much higher. Drink driving, speeding, tailgating, driver fatigue, failure to wear seat belts, failure to wear helmets, passengers in the rear of pick-up trucks, and on and on. Of course there is little law enforcement as well. As with many issues in this country it is not about lack of laws but simply the lack of enforcement.There also probably needs to be more driver education. A little more carrot and a lot more stick.

    Yes sir , a lot more stick and fines

    and prison for starters. Not sure about carrots unless you equate the brain of a Thai person with that of a donkey. You can lead a donkey with a carrot

  11. The latter I assume

    Others with more knowledge than me will offer advise but if you really are just relying on a direct connection to the town water supply I am not surprised you have a problem.

    If you hang on the "experts" will arrive !

    I had a similar problem. After several call to the water HQ a couple of men turned up on a m/c with a big spanner. They removed the water meter and blew out a load of sheet . water ok now. I was told that the general water pressure has been reduced because of the poor condition of the main water pipes. Worth a try Angiolo

  12. This is a serious issue with no simple easy solutions but you wouldn’t know that by the one-liners regurgitated on to this page. It involves the livelihood of some of the poorest members of society, intertwined with the greed of some of the largest corporations.

    Without affordable alternatives to burning, what good does it do to threaten a farmer who is already in debt up to his eyeballs, with little else to lose? His only real alternative is to be more devious in an attempt to avoid getting caught.
    What makes more sense, to go after millions of poor farmers with small backyard burns or a couple of major corporations contracting out millions of rai of corn production and subsequent burning. This won’t be solved overnight or without a comprehensive plan to deal with both ends of the supply and demand chain.

    Affordable is to leave the vegitation on or in the ground where it will eventually provide soil nutrition Regards Angiolo

  13. It would have been much better if the Government had of been proactive,

    if they could have done a lot more to stop the burning from starting,every

    year they know its going to occur,it needs tougher penalties for those caught

    burning,instead they are going to spend vasts amount of money,on an outcome

    that most likely wont work.

    regards Worgeordie

    Fore sure this will not work..No way . No chance. Put water on the fire,that will work.Regards Angiolo

  14. They have an army general , some police, and civilians

    Being vunerable if associated with this whole sorry affair

    has been brought on by their greed,

    No sympathy if proven ,

    a date with the machine gun would be too good and quick, more than they deserve,

    "Rights groups fears of drawn-out case"

    It has to be proven ! you can not put a time limit on some ones life and freedom

    no doubt there are just boat operators or pick up drivers in the collection,

    They have to have the right to fair hearings under the law, how ever long it takes,

    other wise society breaks down , and the LAW becomes a farce,

    Exguse me ,but i thought the law is a farce

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