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7 minutes ago, riclag said:

 Americans , Look at the optics!

Take a look at both these men in the thread pictures!

 What a stark difference !

 

Judging the picture of the President ,he is happy, energetic ,clapping ,kind ,positive approach in life ,grateful and shows gratitude . He gives and receives love. Authentic!

 

And then there is biden, stressed, angry ,frightening ,full of rage.

Pointing his finger  in a aggressive manner! Face all scrunched up like a dog face! 

 47 years  of being  a Washington ,DC elitist ! A politician ! 

 

29 minutes ago, Isaan sailor said:

Did not answer my question.  Bidens’s financial records do not account for all his multi-million dollar homes.  Perhaps the FBI’s open case on Hunter Biden’s emails will reveal some of the money trail.  IR͏S could also show some interest.

This is the last time I am posting this for you (after having done it twice before). If you can't be bothered to educate yourself then it shouldn't be up to me.

https://www.townandcountrymag.com/society/politics/a31265187/joe-biden-net-worth/

https://www.forbes.com/sites/michelatindera/2019/08/28/joe-bidens-net-worth-how-the-2020-presidential-candidate-built-a-9-million-fortune/

Here's a little quiz for you Trump fans. Can any of you tell me what Trumps official plans/manifesto is for the fiollowing IF he wins re-election:-

Healthcare

Economic Recovery post Covid

Climate Change

Racial Equality

Clean Energy

Womens Rights

Employment Insurance

Central American Relationasships

Unions & Workers Rights

Campaign Finance Reform

Peurto Rico

In Fact I'll keep it REALLY easy for you. Can any of you name any Trump post election plan that is part of an official manifesto?

43 minutes ago, Isaan sailor said:

How did Joe Biden afford all those multi-million dollar homes on a VP salary?  It didn’t come from his wife.  And he didn’t sell many books.  Did anyone buy a Biden book?  Would anyone buy a Biden book?

This has been explained to you on numerous occassions yet here you are again. Stop trying to insinuate corruption when there's absolutely none there (it was his book sales) and YOUR prefered candidate is kneck deep in it.

1 hour ago, Kelsall said:

 

Liberal tears are just starting.

 

Enthusiasm for Trump is off the charts.

 

Trump will win both the electoral vote and the popular vote.

I think it's been apparent for quite some time now that most of the Trump fans on TVF (yourself included) are less concerned about the good of the country and more interested in 'owning the libs', 'liberal tears' and the likes.

This extreme identity politics is everything that is wrong with Trump and his fans and is why there is so little constructive discource and common ground to be found. 

Couple this with your continued insistance on clairvoyancy and there just isn't any point in even attempting meaningful discussion with you.

54 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

Majority doesn't win remember.

Yes you've got an outdated Electral College to hopefully save his a$$ but also, don't forget the gerrymandering and voter suppression. They's almost equally as despicable but good for the GOP. 

5 minutes ago, nauseus said:

 

If China had contained it responsibly, no other countries would have the problem, would they?

They didn't so what's your point?

This isn't about the why's and wherefores of China; it's about Trumps ineptitude in containing and mitigating the pandemic.

3 hours ago, Thomas J said:

ChouDoufu

You are like every liberal I ever met.  Conrfont them to answer and they can't  Again, you are so  smart  tell me exactly how Trump could have prevented the virus.  Again, if Trump is at fault, then so are the leaders of every nation on earth to their response since there are deaths all over the world.  Sweden did absolutely nothing and their death rate is lower than the USA.  So that pretty well refutes you logic that DOING SOMETHING had any effect at all. 

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

The 'Sweden did absolutely nothing' ascertion is not correct.  Sweden did introduce self distancing (mostly voluntarily),  isolated the most vulnerable (not nearly well enough), closed high schools and universities, banned large gatherings and introduced work at home policies. In addition it closed it's borders and although the lowest of all the Nordic countries, still has plenty of testing going on. 

However, despite all of these measures, Sweden still has a much higher  death toll than in its Nordic neighbours, which opted for tougher lockdown measures. Norway, with around half the population, has had only around 260 COVID deaths in total.  https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-sweden-idUSKCN25F1YL. Sweden ranks 17th in deaths per 100,000 population, which although better than the US, is nothing to be bragging about.

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality

2 hours ago, Thomas J said:

ChouDoufu

You are like every liberal I ever met.  Conrfont them to answer and they can't  Again, you are so  smart  tell me exactly how Trump could have prevented the virus.  Again, if Trump is at fault, then so are the leaders of every nation on earth to their response since there are deaths all over the world.  Sweden did absolutely nothing and their death rate is lower than the USA.  So that pretty well refutes you logic that DOING SOMETHING had any effect at all. 

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

The WHO announced C19 to be a Public Health Emergency of International Concern (it’s highest warning) on the 30th January 2020. Apart from banning flights from China on the same day, Trump did very little other than tell Fox News host Sean Hannity, “We pretty much shut it down coming in from China’ followed by on the 14th February “We have a very small number of people in the country, right now, with it. It’s like around 12. Many of them are getting better. Some are fully recovered already. So we’re in very good shape.” Trump like the vast majority of countries procrastinated, ignored, minimised and generally flew in the face of WHO advice and did very little to get ahead of the threat (see also UK, Italy, Spain, France etc.etc) so when it inevitably hit them, it hit them hard. In fact it wasn’t until mid-March (a full 6 weeks after the WHO announcement) with numbers going through the roof that Trump declared a national emergency and recommended people work from home. By then of course it was far, far too late.

What Trump and other countries should have done is emulate successful countries like South Korea and Taiwan, who have managed to mitigate the deadlier effects of the virus whilst still keeping much of their economy open. Behind their success has been the most expansive and well-organized testing program in the world, combined with extensive efforts to isolate infected people and trace and quarantine their contacts.     https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/03/coronavirus-cases-have-dropped-sharply-south-korea-whats-secret-its-success

In America (the worlds richest country), testing could have been ramped up, with those testing positive forced to self-isolate (or admitted to hospital if particularly bad). To this end, large amounts of government funds should have been deployed to testing, either from existing 'emergency funds' or separate funds. For example if the US put $100 billion of the $2 ++ trillion stimulus to testing, it would be able to test enough people to get on top of the outbreak. Testing machines (from the likes of Cepheid and Roche), can handle 4,200 tests a day; build five thousand of those machines, and you can test 20 million people a day. With those numbers you could have tested the whole of the US in a month.

https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/04/08/998785/stop-covid-or-save-the-economy-we-can-do-both.

He could have also have coordinated buying PPE for individual states which would have prevented the massive price gouging you saw, and of course done simple things like wear a mask, social distance and do what the scientists recommended. This could have all been done at a federal level, so stop blaming the individual states for trying to do what Trump refused to do and for which he is wholly and individually responsible.

7 minutes ago, WuhanVagabond said:

Yeah, so... just so you know, your handlers are both proud of you and of themselves.

Watch something other than MSNBC and CNN (and NBC< ABC, CBS and NPR). If you think the Burismo scandal is a conspiracy theory, then you are willfully ignorant or mentally challenged.10 years from now, when the country is a disaster, you'll be like the adult looking back at what you did at 16 and shaking your head at your stupidity...

I know what stupidity I'm shaking my head at right now.

And I don't watch any of the news broadcasters you've mentioned prefering The Economist, The BBC, Al Jazeera, Bangkok Post,  Forbes, Thai Visa and Time Magazine. Perhaps it's you who should broaden your information list from what looks like Fox, Breitbart, OANN and every conspracy site on the internet.

12 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

 

Who did he keep it a secret  from ?

 

One last time for the hard of hearing.............CONGRESS!!!

I'll amend this after reading Chompers post to https://www.citizen.org/article/personal-financial-disclosure-requirements-for-public-officials/

6 minutes ago, WuhanVagabond said:

The polls dramatically undercount Trump support bc many people are afraid to tell anyone they support Trump. NOBODY is afraid to declare support for the dems socialist agenda (irony, huh?). Biden has 300 at his rallies, Trump 20,000. In fact, more Trump supporters are showing up at Biden rallies than Biden supporters!

 

The big issue is the intentional overreaction to the Wuhan virus gave cover for the greatest voter fraud scheme in history. mail in ballots where the liberal judges have ruled the signature doesn't have to match the registration signature is all to steal the election with full Tass News Agency level support from ALL the MSM.

 

If the Founding Fathers of the US were alive, they'd already have stopped this via open, armed revolt. The dems will steal this election and move the US towards civil war. The problem is, unlike the dems antifa fascist thugs, conservatives actually have jobs and families-- it takes a brave patriot to stand up. At a certain point though, one has no choice if one wants to preserve the republic.

 

If you disagree, I suggest you step outside of your echo chamber and use your brain. Compare Biden corruption treatment to Trump conjured corruption. Imagine the coverage of the laptop, business associates, actual Biden video related to firing the Burismo prosecutor if it were Trump instead of Biden. Even if you hate Trump (I think he's a child), the threat to our republic should be of paramount concern. A 100% biased MSM is not conducive with a free society...

I didn't think it was possible to get this many conspiracy theories into 1 posts but I take my hat off to you sir ! You'vee excelled yourself here.

Now take a well earned break from your survival bunker and go and get yourself a nice treat. Careful you don't take too long. There is a civil war coming after all.

12 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

 

  Declare it to who ?

Not that you really care but it would be Congress.

It would fall under the Foreign Emoluments Clause -  Article I, Section 9, Clause 8 of the United States Constitution., but since we can't get Trumps tax returns after 4 years of promising to show them, it's highly unlikely he was ever going to mention having a bank account in China.

1 minute ago, CorpusChristie said:

 

  Trump did a lot of business in China before be became POTUS , it would be quite normal for him to have a bank account in China 

It isn't however 'normal' to not declare it. 

4 minutes ago, Uroller said:

Biden had 47 years in  Congress, Senate and White House and he always seemed to be on the wrong side of votes and somebody please list two accomplishments, getting foreign donations does not account. This election is about Harris, that’s who you are voting for????

It would help in the future if you could read the thread. I posted this on page 9 -

- Biden sponsored one of the first climate change bills in the Senate in 1986 and went on to propose curbing greenhouse gas emissions in 2007.

- Biden co-sponsored the original Violence Against Women Act in 1994. 

-  He largely wrote the 1994 Crime Bill.  

- In 1986 he was the ranking member of the Senate Judiciary Committee. Biden became chair of the Judiciary Committee in 1987 and served until 1995.

- Biden has played a role in foreign policy, serving as chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee three times. He spoke passionately about the need to place sanctions on Apartheid-era South Africa in 1986 and advocated for intervention in Yugoslavia in the 1990s. 

- In 2008, he successfully passed the PROTECT Our Children Act, which was aimed at addressing the online exploitation of children.

- As VP he helped the Obama administration pass several key pieces of legislation, including the 2010 Tax Relief Act, the Budget Control Act of 2011, which dealt with a debt ceiling crisis, and the American Taxpayer Relief Act of 2012. The 2012 act resolved the so-called "fiscal cliff."

https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-achieved-40-years-politics-1541278

3 hours ago, fred110 said:

He's done nothing in 47 years ????

Instead of just regurgitating Fox opinion pieces, perhaps you could do some research for yourself. Here, let me get you started with 6 (there's plenty more):

- Biden sponsored one of the first climate change bills in the Senate in 1986 and went on to propose curbing greenhouse gas emissions in 2007.

- Biden co-sponsored the original Violence Against Women Act in 1994. 

-  He largely wrote the 1994 Crime Bill.  

- In 1986 he was the ranking member of the Senate Judiciary Committee. Biden became chair of the Judiciary Committee in 1987 and served until 1995.

- Biden has played a role in foreign policy, serving as chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee three times. He spoke passionately about the need to place sanctions on Apartheid-era South Africa in 1986 and advocated for intervention in Yugoslavia in the 1990s. 

- In 2008, he successfully passed the PROTECT Our Children Act, which was aimed at addressing the online exploitation of children.

- As VP he helped the Obama administration pass several key pieces of legislation, including the 2010 Tax Relief Act, the Budget Control Act of 2011, which dealt with a debt ceiling crisis, and the American Taxpayer Relief Act of 2012. The 2012 act resolved the so-called "fiscal cliff."

https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-achieved-40-years-politics-1541278

5 hours ago, Orton Rd said:

He just forgets what they are ???? Biden would be a non president.

Trump - “I was down there and I watched our police and our firemen down there on 7/11,” Trump told his at the rally in Buffalo, New York. (It's 9/11. 7/11 is a convenience store)

Trump Tweeted  - “Great to have our incredible First Lady back home in the White House,” he wrote. “Melanie is feeling and doing really well. Thank you for all of your prayers and best wishes!” (Her name is Melania)

Trump - “And I met with the president of the Virgin Islands,” (Since the Virgin Islands is an American territory, he's the president of the Virgin Islands). 

Trump - "May God bless the memory of those who perished in Toledo; may God protect them. May God protect all of those, from Texas to Ohio. May God bless the victims and their families. May God bless America." (the city in question was Dayton NOT Toledo).

Trump - "I hope they now go and take a look at the oranges, the oranges of the investigation, the beginnings of that investigation. (The complicated word the so eluded him was 'origin').

Trump - "When young Americans experience the breathtaking beauty of the Grand Canyon, when their eyes widen in amazement as Old Faithful bursts into the sky, when they gaze upon Yo se Might — Yo Se Mights towering sequoias, their love of country grows stronger and they know that every American has truly a duty to preserve this wondrous inheritance," (The word is Yosemite).

And there's so many, many more but please, tell me more about Bidens dementia.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-embarrasing-gaffes-speeches-twitter-a9659916.html

https://www.salon.com/2020/06/26/10-of-trumps-most-embarrassing-gaffes_partner/