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  1. 20 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

    Agreed.  Let's all be honest with each other, though, and admit that both Dems and Republicans will stoop to purely political manipulations given the shoe is on one or the other's foot.

    No. But we can admit the Dems have had to stoop so low to just keep at the same height as the GOP. 

    I've said it before and will say it again; the GOP are playing 3 dimensional chess when it comes to politics; they cheat, lie and manipulate at a level the Dems can't even fathom.

    It's time the Dems started playing the same game and started playing it just as nastily as the GOP. 

  2. 1 hour ago, Tippaporn said:

    If McConnell unscrupulously created a bogus rule which the Constitution does not support for the sole purpose of benefiting his party then wouldn't the Dems, claiming to be high-principled, honorable, and moralistic, stick to their principle of returning to the Constitution and be in favour of nominating and confirming a Supreme Court justice immediately, just as the Constitution states?  Or is it all about winning by any means, principled or not?

    Really? The GOP has literally done a u-turn and demostrated they have the morals of an alley cat and you are questioning the Dems principles? Trump has forever tainted the GOP and whatever small amount of morals they previously had are well and truly gone now. But you already knew that and like most Trump fans simply didn't care in your fanatical pursuit of 'winning'. 

    With the GOP there's no morals and there's no rules. The only rules they like are the ones they can bend or the ones they make up themselves. And even then they can simply ignore their own rules with no thought to anything other than their own selfish cause. You can't trust the GOP and the Dems should just chalk this one down to another reason to not give them an inch when they eventually gain the WH. They need to keep their eye on the big prize but only a clean sweep of Congress and the Senate will do any real good and that's the battle they should be 100% focused on. 

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  3. 44 minutes ago, MajarTheLion said:

    I can certainly agree politicians are bold-faced liars and hypocrites. The thing is, in the spirit of being honest, it's human nature to not mind the lying and hypocrisy so much when it works out in our own favor.  ????

    It's not human nature. It's your nature.

    Some of us hold our elected leaders to higher standards than you obvioulsy do and DON'T accept the 'lying and hypocrisy' 

    You're aptly demonstarting your average Trump fans philosophy in a nutshell; Scr$w morals, integrity and doing the right thing as long as I'm getting something out of it.

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  4. 26 minutes ago, Chiphigh said:

    Birth control is cheap and readily available for everyone. 

     

    Responsibility is on the individual. 

     

    Get over it 

    Yes because self-control and taking personal responsibility has always worked out for the best hasn't it? (drink driving any one?) 

    The facts are simple; if this debate was about mens ability to control their own bodies then there wouldn't be a debate. But for some reason, old, white men feel they have a divine right to govern what happens to a womans body.

    It's sooooooooo 1920's

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  5. 4 minutes ago, earlinclaifornia said:

    I did watch and I know your opinions deserve valuable consideration. The lawyer,Jacob Blake is eloquent but his bias is most evident. I remain unconvinced Rittenhouse will be found innocent and not be sentenced to jail. The case against the sole policeman shooting Jacob Blake seven times in the back while holding him in grasp, at the least is still excessive.

    Obviously time will tell but the idea that self-defence overides most of the other arguments is a strong one, well made. My original thought on this was perhaps the one killed and one wounded (especially the guy with the gun) after chasing him down could be argued more for self-defence but the first killing would have been impossible. However, it seems the fact that first victim 'went at him' is probably justifiable reason enough. The Blake situation is absolutely excessive but the circumstances leading up to that point are tipped heavily in the police's favor (warned numerous times, tasered, reaching for a weapon) so it seems that the 7 times shot part is (unbelievably) irrelevant to the main argument of a 'good kill'.

    Emotions and confirmation bias get in the way of all this but when you look at the legality of both situations (and that's what the court will be doing) it seems there's cause in both.

     

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  6. 7 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

    He was getting chased around town by rioters 

    With an AR-15 strapped to his back. 

    Two wrongs don't make a right and neither parties are innocent in this. Him for being there in the first place with a deadly weapon strapped on and those that were looting and rioting. Point though is no 17 year old is mature enough to be in this situation in the first place and the road all of this is going down is going to see many, many more instances like this before it comes to an end.

    High emotions and guns don't go well together. 

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  7. 34 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

     

    I'm sure the Trump, right-wing, pro guns, pro militia media and online world is going to be working overtime for months to come in an effort to portray this killer kid as some kind of hero...  Because to them, of course, he is... 

     

    Please don't think I've changed my mind on the legitimacy of all this. I mean, a 17 year old wandering around with an AR-15 in a highly charged environment was just asking for trouble and I'm sure you're correct, he will be seen as the poster child for 'right-wing, pro guns, pro militia media' but purely from a legal stand-point, it looks like Wisconsuin statutes have him pretty much covered. 

    Again, I don't think this is any way correct but the law is the law even if it's particularly odeous. Stand your ground/self-defence laws all stem from the US's obsession with guns and a 2nd ammendment dating back hundreds of years and most certainly are viewed as crazy by any other civilised country. But that's what the US is all about and why this boy (because that's what he is), is likely to get off with shooting 3 people and killing two.  

  8. 32 minutes ago, watthong said:

     

    Your effort of self-educating is laudable but if part of it consisted of watching the video clip you are touting then you're defeating your own purpose. Keep on watching the likes of such video (tons of them out there - hint: they all have moniker clearly stating their stance) and soon you'll be in tune with the MAGA crowd. 

     

    Juvenile minds are malleable - just like that of the teenage shooter/murderer Kyle Rittenhouse.

    One tip: If you can't tell what's right and what's wrong - or in your own words what's "unsunsational and objective" - then look inward, not outward. Good luck,

    Thanks for the condescention. 

    If you had taken the time to investigate this yourself, you will see my change of view was purely based on the legal aspects. I had looked at the legal parts of the matter before and had concluded there was no way Rittenhouse was going to get away with self-defence but actually hearing legal insights into actual Winconsin statutes throws a different light on the matter.

    I am not advocating Rittenhouse or indeed any aspect of a 17 year old wandering around with an Ar-15 to 'protect' a neighbourhood he's not even from or in no way is it to excuse the rest of the unhinged MAGA crowd, but being being informed on the legal aspects should not be seen as the capitulation you are trying to make out and more an opportunity to be educated.

    However, if that doesn't appeal to you and you're not open to be better informed then that's your prerogative but I think we both know who then really needs to look inwards.  

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