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Well lets see...........blindness and can't pee as some of the known side effects.  Oh yes, sure I'll take it

These laws don't surprise me.  Thailand is not a Western friendly nation.

On 3/5/2020 at 6:36 PM, Khon Kaen Jeff said:

Yea not good that. If you had helped say your wife's parents then they could be excused if there was no thank you forthcoming, as they have their pride and are senior people etc, but this brat has no excuse. I have helped out my wife's sister financially and she couldn't thank me enough.

 

Just don't give him anymore and wash your hands with him, would be old Jeff's wisdom.

Good advice thanks. 

On 3/5/2020 at 8:57 PM, DannyCarlton said:

And stated that he was furious. If I were the son I would want nothing to do with him. What a self entitled <deleted>.

Looks like this forum sure does have a lot of bitter trolls hanging around.  Guess it's ok in your minds how he treats his mom, his sister and women in general.  I think based on your comments, I can safely say there are some really strange people in the world.

I think the OP just got a reality check.  Most men I know marry for love, but most women and of course not all of them, but "most" Thai women marry a farang for a better life first and foremost for themselves and their family.  It can be a hard pill to swallow in the beginning.  Some eventually work out and some don't.  My advice would be to call her bluff and let her go back to Thailand if that's what she really wants, and it probably may really be what she wants.  You'll be much happier in the long run giving her freedom to chose her life without conditions.  The hard part will always be about your childs best interest  and only  you two can decide how to go about that.

13 minutes ago, 4MyEgo said:

Perhaps it's time he is taught a lesson, no doubt life will be tougher for him.

 

Sounds like he has been spoilt and knows little respect for women, especially his mother, a hug is key for her feel good emotions, while I have to admit, I was never raised to huge neither my father or my mother, but when I do see her I do give her a hug of which she appreciates, e.g. it means I still love you mum.

You are quite right about that.  My observation has been that he has little respect for women in general as I see how he treats his sister, who is really an angel.    I'm not a huger either, but when I haven't seen my mom in a little while, she always gets a big hug from me and I would never run away from her as if she is some type of disease when all she would want is to hug me after not seeing me for a couple of years.

Yes, life is going to get tougher for him and he can blame everyone he wants to about it, but until he learns some common decency, I don't see why he should be constantly rewarded.  Rewarding ungratefulness is foolish too and I am realizing that now.

42 minutes ago, 4MyEgo said:

Not wishing to sound disrespectful, or sound like someone who thinks he know everything, but sounds like he knows it hurts her and is playing on it.

 

If I was going to help him out buying a house, that would off of the table as he has shown me his personality, and I don't like it, so why even bother, help those that are deserving of your help, those that punish others willingly knowing it, deserve exactly what they dish out.

 

I hope he knows you were considering helping him out, so that you can then turn the tables on him, sorry.

He knows but I think I'm at the point where I want to distance myself from him.  I'm not expecting anything in return, but his lack of common decency is starting to get on my nerves and I think I've finally had enough of it.

51 minutes ago, Isaanbiker said:

OP, her son, might not agree with her choosing a foreigner.

  It's got absolutely nothing to do with being married or not.

Thai sons who love their mom would be the first to hug their mom.

No matter how long they haven't seen each other. 

 It's just one way to show that his mom made the wrong decision in his eyes.

 

  

Very possible as he is generally very anti west.  Never heard him complain once though when it comes to all the financial help he is given by us.  Wired him last year a lot of money to buy a little farm and not even a thank you could get out of him. 

1 minute ago, Berkshire said:

Fair enough.  Then it's a really ridiculous comment the son made.  I would challenge him and tell him that he's outright lying.

I didn't really challenge him, but I did say that he was hurting his mom a lot by acting that way.  The more I think of it, I may just have to let it be.  My wife was obviously very hurt over all of this, but she still loves him no matter what and maybe that's the answer. 

1 minute ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Is this normal?

A long time ago I participated in psychological group therapy - which was very interesting.

In that group the question "is this normal" came up all the time. And every time the psychologist said something like: "it's normal for you".

I think that is a very good statement.

It does not matter if from 100 people 99 people do A. That is no reason that the 1 person also has to do A like everybody else. If he wants to do B that's up to him.

Obviously it might be interesting to find out why he reacts in the way he does. But I think don't try to convince him that what he does is not normal and he should change his behavior.

Good point really thanks! 

18 minutes ago, Berkshire said:

You're talking about one isolated case here....not sure why you would ask if this is "normal for a Thai adult."  So your Thai wife and her son have personal issues, that's between the two of them.  Thai men and boys hug their mothers all the time, that's normal.  What a ridiculous question. 

The only ridiculous thing is your comment.  Her son made it sound like fact that sons never hug their moms in Thailand after they marry and I wasn't buying it, that's why I started this thread.

1 minute ago, scorecard said:

Sorry I don't see why that means you should label the son as a 'coward'.

 

Only you and your wife and son know the full details, and that your business of course.

 

However IMHO many readers might well think that the boy felt abandoned and forgotten, not wanted, not loved for many years and therefore the reaction of not wanting to hug his mother. 

If you were there and saw the visuals, it was very distasteful, there is just no other way to put it.  Even his wife was disgusted but said nothing except showing mass disapproval with her body language. 

1 minute ago, orchis said:

his choice.

Yes it is his choice.  My choice at the moment is to not help him with his house as to me he showed huge disrespect to his mother.  Otherwise he's a nice guy, but the way he acted is hard to swallow.

1 minute ago, scorecard said:

And I wonder why the OP labelled the son as a 'coward'.

because I couldn't comprehend a grown man acting in such a cowardly fashion.  My wife is very loving and a very good mother always supporting her children unconditionally.

Something has been bothering me for a couple of  years now.  5 years ago when we visited Thailand, my Thai wife's son who lives in Bangkok would not allow her to hug him, not even once.  It was so humiliating for her and I was fuming.  She tried several times throughout the 2 weeks we were there and he would run away like a coward and never let her touch him.   She really missed him and I felt really sad and upset about the whole thing.

Her Son told me that when a Thai man gets married, he cannot allow his mother to hug him, even if they have not seen each other for years.  He wouldn't even allow a soft, how are you hug, nothing at all.  Is he bs'ing me big time?  I'm really interested to hear from anyone who has experience with this as I was going to help him out in buying a house, but I am really reluctant because of the way he treated his mother.

"One can learn all the secrets of the Universe and effectively control it,  yet still not know ME" 

My feeble attempt to interpret that quote would be, that on the highest level of being, above all dimensions of reality and beyond, nothing exists except pure, unconditional love.  This love always existed, it was never born, therefore could never die, it just is, was and will forever will be.  That's probably why the sages insist that God is everywhere, always, and can not be understood with the intellect,  but through the actual being of the essence itself and is the ultimate gift for us to discover.

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Is there such a thing as an unlimited talk and text plan to call Canada from anywhere in Thailand?  Need something for about 30 days or so when I come over.

Two reasons my family and I have not traveled to Thailand for 5 years now is that the baht is just too high.  It has risen so much against the Canadian dollar that we have zero interest in traveling there.  Second reason is that it really seems Thailand is doing anything and everything to discourage Westerners from visiting and it's really working.

2 hours ago, sunnyboy2018 said:

'Far Right' .What does that even mean? Anybody who opposes the current marxist based liberal orthodoxy is called extrme right but Merkel,  the BBC, the new Democrats et al are the extreme left wing, extreme liberals, the latter who are recognisable by their antipathy to free speech. 

Far Right, Extreme left, both opposite sides of the same coin and both ugly in my opinion. To elaborate further, what annoys most reasonable people is when they question anything the extreme left does and right away be branded far right.  In my mind, far right means using any excuse to promote hatred and violence and extreme left means censoring just about every reasonable thought known to man.  We live in crazy times.

On 7/29/2019 at 5:02 PM, helpisgood said:

 

Clearly, the adult perpetrator should be held fully accountable for this horrific crime.  Perhaps, depending on the specifics, he should never be let out on the streets again due to the nature of the crime.   

 

My other concern is how the publicity may fuel far right-wing parties, who will very likely point out that this is yet another example of what must be done.  As a result, the innocent people who are good citizens but belonging to a group targeted by such far right-wing groups may be unfairly punished for the heinous act of this individual.

That's the problem, the far right always need any excuse to hate more.  Trouble is that when a country has a far right gov, next election they usually go too far left and the imbalance just keeps on going.  I live in a small town in Canada with my Thai wife and was a little stunned to see someone drive by us whilst we were walking angrily yelling "keep on walking"! He had a MAGA bumper sticker on his truck. 

55 minutes ago, rexall said:

If you stay in a hotel, the staff does that for you without you having to think about it. If you stay at a residence, the owner, manager or "house master" must file a TM30 within 24 hours of your arrival. Technically, you as the guest/renter are NOT responsible for filing the TM30, and it is the owner who will be fined for failing to report. Still, Imm may hold you responsible during your extension of there is no record of reporting.  If you stay at a hotel and then return to your residence in Thailand, another TM30 is required, assuming you have been away for more than 24 hours.

I know, dude, it is pretty unbelievable until you manage to wrap your head around the reality. Don't take my word for it.

Seems a little ridiculous doesn't it!  It motivates me not to visit the country any time soon.