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You can also add Pastor Robert Jefferies, one of Donald's earliest supporters, to the list of expanding previous MAGA people stating that Biden is now the president-elect.
Pastor Robert Jeffress, staunch Trump evangelical supporter, calls Biden president-elect
Quote“When Joe Biden becomes president, we should commend him for the things he does right,” Jeffress wrote. “We should condemn the things he does wrong. And above all, we must pray fervently for our president. If President Biden succeeds, we all succeed. May God bless Joe Biden, and may God bless the United States of America.”
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Ah, the Drudge Report, which previously shilled for Donald, has done a full reversal and acknowledges that Biden has won the election. It is pretty bad when even previous MAGA news sites have turned on their beloved leader.
Drudge Report, a Former Trump Ally, Looks to Biden
Quote“YOU’RE FIRED!” Drudge Report blared in a headline within minutes of CNN’s calling the election for Joseph R. Biden Jr. on Saturday. For nearly 24 hours afterward, that headline remained at the top of the site. In addition, a screenshot of the Drudge Report main page, with the “YOU’RE FIRED!” headline, has been the only tweet on the @DRUDGE Twitter account since Saturday.
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Conservative lawyer John Yoo, who advised Donald on how to bypass Congress, says the constitution will end Donald's term.
What if Trump won't concede? The Constitution will end his term, conservative lawyer John Yoo says
QuoteThe conservative lawyer John Yoo is among the latest legal voices to throw water on U.S. President Donald Trump's attempts to reverse the result of the 2020 election with claims of voter fraud.
None of these cases really look like they have a very high probability of winning," Yoo said. "On the other hand, I think that Trump has every right to and demand that all the states be sure about the votes, so that we all have confidence in the election. But I'll say, looking at past cases, these are very hard cases to prove and generally they don't result in changes in the votes totals on the order by which President Trump lost to Joe Biden.
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8 minutes ago, Masterton said:My info comes straight from the horses mouth, the Trump legal team filing the cases. Or is that source not "credible" enough ? I have also included a clip of former judge and independent counsel Ken Starr weighing in on the Pennsylvania constitutional issue as some posters on the forum seem to think they know more than he does. The Democrat media is promoting a false narrative that there is "no evidence" but they actively censor anyone who is willing to come on and present it. Strange that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zWufjEbzjY - Penn. & Mich. still in Play for Trump says Rudy Giuliani Part 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1k05pyx75k - Penn. & Mich. still in Play for Trump says Rudy Giuliani Part 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xurB9TiCWE - Giuliani presents evidence for Trump's legal battle
https://video.foxnews.com/v/6208240789001 - Starr: Pennsylvania mail-in ballot deadline extension a 'constitutional travesty'
You actually think anything Giuliani says is credible?! Yeah, straight from the Four Seasons Total Landscaping. ????
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I wouldn't normally post anything about Karl Rove (not a favorite of mine), but even Karl has stated that Biden has won the election and that the final result won't be overturned.
Karl Rove acknowledges presidential election 'won't be overturned'
QuoteKarl Rove, the architect of former President George W. Bush's gubernatorial and presidential campaigns, acknowledged Wednesday that the 2020 presidential election will not be overturned regardless of the flurry of lawsuits from President Donald Trump challenging the results.
Rove -- who sources said advised the White House and Trump campaign leading up to the 2020 election -- wrote in a Wall Street Journal op-ed that while the President is within his right to challenge the results, his efforts "are unlikely to move a single state from Mr. Biden's column, and certainly they're not enough to change the final outcome."
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Just to show you how petty and small the current WH administration truly is, the State Department won't even forward messages from foreign leaders of congratulations on to Biden. That's Donald, always classy...Not.
State Department is preventing Biden from accessing messages from foreign leaders
QuoteA stack of messages from foreign leaders to President-elect Joe Biden are sitting at the State Department but the Trump administration is preventing him from accessing them, according to State Department officials familiar with the messages.
Traditionally, the State Department supports all communications for the President-elect, which is why many countries began sending messages to State over the weekend. But with Biden prohibited from accessing State Department resources by the Trump administration, because President Donald Trump refuses to accept Biden's victory, dozens of incoming messages have not been received.
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11 minutes ago, Jingthing said:
Are you sure that's real? It would mean Mr Trump has no control of that particular business.
The White House Gift Shop is privately owned and has no connection with the WH.
White House Gift Shop - Wiki Page
And for those of you that want to go off in the weeds.
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3 hours ago, webfact said:He also has experience battling a public health crisis, as he worked as Obama's "Ebola Czar" in 2014 during an outbreak of that virus in Africa. A fierce critic of Trump's handling of the coronavirus pandemic, Klain is expected to be a key figure in Biden's response to the health crisis.
Wow, someone with actual experience in handling a pandemic in the WH responding to the current COVID-19 crisis. It is hard to imagine. Looks like Biden is well on his way to forming an actual functioning government.
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Just now, BaronVonBangkok said:
Obviously in the close states where there was a massive last minute swing. What are you scared of?The media don’t get to decide the winner.
Again, you spout generalities without any specific details of where and why. What are you afraid of by giving out exact states and for what reasons? Have you even done any research on recounts and the elections other than coming on here with generic rants?
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2 minutes ago, RJRS1301 said:Just wondering who ays for these recounts if they are proven the original one with a reasonable margin of error, but did make difference to the outcome?
Does the state concerned foot the bill, or the person/party which requested the recount that made no difference to the outcome?
The cost depends on the state and who is asking for the recount. In Georgia, the state will pay for the recount. In Wisconsin, Donald will have to pay (up front).
This information can be found on the Internet.
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28 minutes ago, BaronVonBangkok said:A recount is a good idea. The Dems shouldn’t mind if it’s all above board.
Wow, what a generic non-detailed statement. A recount where, which state, what election and for what reason?
I think Donald conceding is a "good idea". Republicans shouldn't mind since Biden has been declared the winner.
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Looks like the Arizona election result will be universally called for Biden. The Decision Desk just called it for Biden.
Biden is on the cusp of securing Arizona’s 11 electoral votes
QuoteTrump narrowed Biden’s lead to about 11,600, but he’ll need to secure 74% of nearly 25,000 votes left uncounted to secure the state’s 11 electoral votes.
Several news outlets already proclaimed Biden the winner in Arizona, including Decision Desk who called the race tonight in favor of the Democrat.
Arizona’s recount law is specific. It gets automatically triggered if Trump pulls within 200 votes. There is no other path to a recount in the state.
Even Arizona's Republican AG stated the race is basically over in Biden's favor. The article below is from about a day earlier so that is why the vote count is different than from the above quote. As you can see, the percentages just keep getting worse and worse for Donald.
Arizona Republican AG: ‘Biden will win Arizona,’ claims of fraud not ‘reality’
QuoteArizona’s Republican attorney general on Wednesday said it’s highly unlikely that President Trump will win the state over Joe Biden, as he dismissed unfounded claims of widespread voter fraud in the 2020 election.
Mark Brnovich noted that Trump would need to be named on at least 65 percent of the 50,000 ballots left to count in Arizona in order to catch up and exceed the president-elect’s final vote count, deeming that this was statistically “very, highly unlikely to happen.”
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On Dec 14th, the electoral college will meet and determine which candidates get which electoral votes. That is when Biden will receive over the required 270 electoral votes (most likely 306).
To overcome your ignorance, I will post the process here.
FAQ: What happens next in the presidential election process?
QuoteThe electoral college meets (December 14)
Of course, the votes for president are actually votes for a slate of electors who cast ballots in the electoral college, a gathering held in the 50 states and the District of Columbia on an appointed day in December after the election.
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I wonder why the rest of the news outlets won't call Arizona for Biden. They all called Alaska for Donald even though in Arizona Donald has a higher bar to reach.
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1 hour ago, EVENKEEL said:Don't understand the dems resistance to making sure the count is right. What are they afraid of?
Funny how only the Presidential votes are under such scrutiny. What about the House and Senate races? Basically, the MAGA team is stating that there was voter fraud/manipulation for just the Presidential ticket but these fraudsters were not smart enough to fake/manipulate votes for down ballot democrats. Yeah, right that make sense. Not.
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It looks like even the official White House Gift Shop recognizes that Biden will be the next US President. They have Biden listed as the 46th President of the United States and have a page already set up.
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When you can't win an election fair and square, you toss up enough dirt to delay certification so electors vote in your favor. Donald appears to be on the verge of attempting to steal the election and toss American democracy out the window in the process.
Republicans discuss extreme Electoral College play for Trump to cling to power
QuoteIn this long-shot scenario, Trump and his team could try to block secretaries of state in contested states from certifying results. That could allow legislatures in those states to try to appoint new electors who favor Trump over Biden.
"It's basically hijacking the democracy," one lawyer familiar with the process tells Axios. "They've got nothing else; you'd be trying to deny Joe Biden 270."
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While Biden gets ready to be President, Donald hides away and sulks. It appears that Donald has all but given up on any Presidential duties (although this may be a good thing).
Donald Trump refusing to work with Joe Biden’s team
QuoteTrump’s public schedule hasn’t included an intelligence briefing since October 1. The White House hasn’t provided a “readout” of any call between the president and a foreign leader in weeks. He has not met with members of the White House coronavirus task force in months.
If Donald doesn't want to do any work then he should be grateful that someone else is actually willing do it.
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A recount in Arizona probably won't happen. Presidential candidates would have to be separated by only 200 votes in order to trigger a recount. With the current trend (if it holds), would put Biden ahead by about 6000 to 7000 votes.
The only other recount would be Georgia. Biden currently is ahead by about 14000+ votes (and increasing steadily). It appears that most of the initial ballot counting is done and if the final tally is below the 0.5% threshold then the recount will occur. With over 14,000 votes in Biden's favor it is extremely unlikely a recount would change anything.
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If Donald wants a recount in Wisconsin, he will have to pay for it. With a cost of around 2 to 3 Million dollars, will their "now broke/begging for money" organization be able to pay for it? Oh, Wisconsin isn't stupid, they ask for the money up front. I guess we will find out around Nov 18th or so.
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When a Venn diagram can tell it all...
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3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:
American presidency isn't won on popularity, but I'm sure you know that.
Not typically, but it can sway some voters. I posted those favorability rating to show TVF user BritManToo that his assumption that Donald was more favorable than Biden is incorrect. Not that I believe Biden will win solely based on favorability rating but these ratings do give Biden a boost with some undecideds that will "hold their nose" and vote for the least undesirable candidate. There is some speculation that is what hurt Hillary in 2016 so Biden has a wider favorability advantage in 2020.
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10 minutes ago, BritManToo said:How was Hillary Vs Trump before the election?
You stated (incorrectly) that Donald was favored over Biden, I showed you otherwise statistically. Biden has higher favorability over Donald. This has nothing to do with Hillary. What is with the Hillary obsession?
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5 hours ago, BritManToo said:Trumps bad, but Biden is worse (and his son).
Nobody votes for Trump because they want him for president, they just want his opposition less.
Donald's favorability rating has always been below Biden's for at least the past months (and longer). Biden has consistently held an average of a 15 point favorability over Donald.
Election 2020 favorability ratings
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'Nothing's going to stop' transition of power in U.S., Biden says
in World News
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Attention MAGA folks! This is how it is done. Even though their elections have yet to be certified, new members of Congress get to attend orientation and start to setup their offices/staff. Do you get it? Do you understand? There is absolutely no reason to withhold the same courtesies to the Biden team.
Incoming lawmakers will attend orientation for new House members