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A recount in Arizona probably won't happen. Presidential candidates would have to be separated by only 200 votes in order to trigger a recount. With the current trend (if it holds), would put Biden ahead by about 6000 to 7000 votes.

The only other recount would be Georgia. Biden currently is ahead by about 14000+ votes (and increasing steadily). It appears that most of the initial ballot counting is done and if the final tally is below the 0.5% threshold then the recount will occur. With over 14,000 votes in Biden's favor it is extremely unlikely a recount would change anything.

If Donald wants a recount in Wisconsin, he will have to pay for it. With a cost of around 2 to 3 Million dollars, will their "now broke/begging for money" organization be able to pay for it? Oh, Wisconsin isn't stupid, they ask for the money up front. I guess we will find out around Nov 18th or so.

When a Venn diagram can tell it all...

10 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

How was Hillary Vs Trump before the election?

You stated (incorrectly) that Donald was favored over Biden, I showed you otherwise statistically. Biden has higher favorability over Donald. This has nothing to do with Hillary. What is with the Hillary obsession?

5 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Trumps bad, but Biden is worse (and his son).

Nobody votes for Trump because they want him for president, they just want his opposition less.

Donald's favorability rating has always been below Biden's for at least the past months (and longer). Biden has consistently held an average of a 15 point favorability over Donald.

Election 2020 favorability ratings

Yet, another way Donald's campaign stiffed their donors by using campaign funds to buy Hannity's book. Hannity wins! Donald wins! His donors get fleeced! It is amazing that anyone would donate to such a corrupt campaign!

RNC spent more than $492K in donor money to buy Sean Hannity’s ‘best-selling’ book

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He books Trump, the Republican National Committee buys his book.

Sean Hannity has RNC donors to thank for help making his latest tome a top-seller, according to Salon. The committee reported $492,308 in “donor mementos” from book retailers spent on Sept. 16 alone to the Federal Elections Commission.

CNN had a panel of  eleven undecided voters in North Carolina. After the debate 7 of them said they would vote for Biden, 0 would vote for Donald and 4 of them are waiting until election day as "things could change".

Undecided voters say who they will vote for after debate

8 hours ago, webfact said:

Republicans are hoping Barrett's confirmation can give a boost to incumbent senators in the party facing tough re-election fights, including Graham in South Carolina and Judiciary Committee members Joni Ernst in Iowa and Thom Tillis in North Carolina.

It is interesting to note that if Barrett gets confirmed to the Supreme Court before the election, this can actually sway some voters to either vote for Biden or not vote at all. I saw a video of one swing voter that stated that if Barrett gets confirmed, he will most likely vote for Biden as the Supreme Court pick has been settled and that is no longer a factor in his vote. I also believe that if Barrett gets the SCOTUS seat, a number of Donald leaning voters might just decide there is no longer a good enough reason to vote for him and just decide to no longer vote at all.

So if Republicans push to get Barrett seated, this can actually work in Biden's favor as the SCOTUS seat is no longer an issue for conservative voters who might decide to either not vote or vote for Biden. Not exactly what McConnell is hoping for but I assume McConnell would rather have the SCOTUS seat filled than either the presidency or Senate control.

From the various polling I saw, Biden either won or the debate was tied.

Here is one from CNN (yeah, I know, CNN, some of you will whine about it).

CNN Poll: Biden wins final presidential debate

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Joe Biden did a better job in the final debate on Thursday according to a CNN Instant Poll of debate watchers. Overall, 53% of voters who watched the debate said that Biden won the matchup, while 39% said that President Donald Trump did.

Viewers once again said that Biden's criticisms of Trump were largely fair (73% said they were fair, 26% unfair), and they split over whether Trump's attacks on Biden were fair (50% said yes, 49% no).

Where is Melania? It makes for a pretty sad statement when your own wife won't campaign for you.

Inside Melania Trump's unprecedented campaign trail absence

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The campaign has sought her presence. But with the election less than two weeks away and no scheduled events, it's unlikely the first lady will engage in any significant way. This stands in stark contrasts to nearly all modern first ladies, many of who served a critical role in humanizing their husbands to women voters.

Donald can't even get prominent members of his own Republican party to endorse/vote for him including a previous RNC chairman. Crazy!

Nearly 600 Prominent Republicans Voting for Joe Biden

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With two weeks until Election Day, former Republican National Committee Chairman Michael Steele has endorsed Democratic nominee Joe Biden for president, joining 593 other prominent Republicans who are voting blue come November 3.

Also, is the "43 Alumni for Biden" organization that includes administration and campaign officials of former US president George W. Bush trying to get fellow Republicans to vote for Biden. 

The Republican nominee that ran against Obama/Biden didn't vote for Donald. Romney, the last Republican presidential candidate before Donald, made it clear that he doesn't support Donald. How sad is that?

Mitt Romney says he did not vote for Trump in the 2020 election

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Sen. Mitt Romney said Wednesday he did not vote for President Donald Trump's reelection, the latest break between the GOP's 2012 presidential nominee and the leader of his party.

The first-term Republican senator, who already voted in Utah, declined to say if he voted for Democratic nominee Joe Biden or wrote in another candidate. But he made clear that Trump did not get his vote.

"I did not vote for President Trump," Romney told CNN on Capitol Hill.

Donald's own campaign re-election lawyers support Biden over Donald with massive contributions. So Donald supporters send money to Donald's campaign. The campaign then uses this money to pay the lawyers which in turn gets donated to Biden's campaign. So Donald supporters are indirectly donating to Biden! Woohoo!

Lawyers spurn Trump campaign in individual donations, including from Jones Day

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Lawyers at Jones Day, which has earned millions as outside counsel to U.S. President Donald Trump’s re-election campaign, have donated nearly $90,000 to the campaign committee of Trump’s Democratic rival Joe Biden. Contributions to the Trump campaign by Jones Day lawyers totaled just $50, records show.

Lawyers at several other law firms representing Trump or his campaign also heavily favored Biden.

6 hours ago, Baerboxer said:

If the Russians think of funding Trump, will they be able to match the millions, or maybe billions, China has to fund the Bidens?

Um, China is funding who again?

$15M Turned Trump Into China's Chump: How Xi bought off America's President for a few million dollars and some trademark approvals

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According to the Times, not only is Trump a loyal Chinese taxpayer—paying $188,000 in Chinese taxes in the years 2013-2015—he also keeps a hidden bank account there, one that received a suspiciously sudden windfall in 2017, the year Trump became President:

In 2017, the company reported an unusually large spike in revenue—some $17.5 million, more than the previous five years’ combined. It was accompanied by a $15.1 million withdrawal by Mr. Trump from the company’s capital account.

Great article about where Donald's campaign money went.

Where did the Trump campaign's $1 billion go? A GOP strategist said, "You could literally have 10 monkeys with flamethrowers go after the money, and they wouldn't have burned through it as stupidly."

One of my favorite parts. Spending on TV ads in the DC area to stroke Donald's massive ego.

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Arguably the best example of poor spending decisions is the fact that the president's re-election campaign spent $1.6 million on television ads in the Washington, D.C., media market -- not because Team Trump seriously expected to compete in the Democratic stronghold, but because the campaign team knows the president watches a ridiculous amount of television from the White House.

Well, the one area where Donald was supposed to sway the voters no longer holds true. It looks like he is no longer trusted with the US economy.

US voters turn against Donald Trump’s economic policies

1 hour ago, Nadia6 said:

Have you not seen the crowds at his last appearances ??? tens of thousands and thousands more waiting in the rain to get in.

Donald's "Farewell Tour" is attracting the folks that just want to see him one last time before he departs to the dustbin of history. Turnout at rallies doesn't equate to votes at the voting booth. These attendees aren't there to support Donald, they are there to witness the one last car crash before the roads are closed. It is a gawkers' paradise to watch someone spout nonsense about flushing toilets 15 times, talk about "hydrosonic" missiles (whatever that is) and toss out "lock em all up" red meat lines.

At this point, Donald's rallies are all about showmanship and pandering to the base. The attendees enjoy the show, go home and get on with their lives without really caring to actually go and vote. But hey, Donald enjoys the rallies and that is all that matters to him. Something to stroke Donald's fragile ego and make him feel adored. It is a win-win.

The rest of us will go and vote for the only choice. The one candidate that actually has plans and policies. The candidate that can hold town halls and speak directly to the American public. Yep, Biden has shown twice now that he can beat Donald at the debate stage (once directly and once indirectly). Biden will do it again but of course Donald is already pre-playing the victim card with the next debate so expect his supports to claim likewise.

Donald needs a debate to break the terrible trend of the election forecast weighing heavily in Biden's favor.

Biden is favored to win the election

41 minutes ago, webfact said:

The Presidential Commission on Debates said each candidate's microphone would be silenced to allow the other to make two minutes of opening remarks at the beginning of each 15-minute segment of the debate. Both microphones will be turned on to allow a back-and-forth after that time.

I typically mute Donald any time he speaks. There isn't any reason to listen to the blabbering word farts that come out of his mouth hole. 

Fact-checking Trump's dishonest weekend: The President made at least 66 false or misleading claims in three days

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Trump has been reliably deceptive for his entire presidency, filling his speeches and tweets with lies and other false statements.
The frequency and magnitude of his deception tends to accelerate, however, during campaign season -- when he complements his usual ad-libbed inaccuracy with a barrage of inaccurate statements that are written into his speech scripts.

For fact checkers, the period from Friday through Sunday was one of the most challenging of Trump's entire presidency: he made at least 66 separate false or misleading claims over that three-day span.