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Suggest you open a seperate topic and include your IO and TM47 Question in the header, but I can try to provide some guidance. I assume you mean 9 Aug (not 9 July), which would be a couple days past 90 days from your last report. If they told you 9 July, either the IO possibly got the month wrong in translation or you may have an issue, best to call IO again and double check. I wouldn't think they would make something up just to close your inquiry, but who knows. I have also had friends over the years that have showed the EMS receipts on renewal and not been fined. For 90-day report and since you have filed before, you should be able avoid the mail (or a trip to IO) altogether using the new on-line tool. I have used this system for my last 3 reports and it works great compared to the old system. Register at the link below and wait for the e-mail with your user ID and link to log-in (if you don't get this in 1-2 days. check your junk mail). https://tm47.immigration.go.th/tm47/#/register/add You can use this system to report 14 days before your due date (no earlier) up to the due date. You will also have to create seperate accounts for you and your wife. If you do use this system to file, you first get a confirmation e-mail on submission and 2-4 working days later (depending on volume since a person still manually works behind the scenes to enter in system) will get an e-mail with an e-version of your new receipt. The system should either reply with a updated receipt or reject it if something is not correct. You will have to wait until 14 days before your next report date to try it. As I have read on other threads and confirmed, when you enter your info, only manually type: PP Number Nationality DO NOT enter the other fields, rather click the magnifying glass below those two fields and to have the system autofill. If the autofill works, then complete remaining blank fields (if any), then check the box at the bottom and submit. If no autofill data appears, you can still enter your details, but they have to match pretty close to what is on file or it may get rejected. Suggest to try exactly 14 days before your report date for your first time. Worst case, if you don't get a reply, you can mail again as a back-up. Regards,
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Make sure to do a small transaction into or out of that account the same day as your planned extension before going to bank to update the bank book with that dated entry. IO will need to see a line entry with the same date as your extension with balance in your BB along with all other detail going back 60 days or longer depending on the date you moved the 800K. The small transaction day of can be done using the app or online banking, it doesn't have to be at the counter, but since you have to go to bank to use the print machine, some people I know make a small deposit or withdrawl at the bank, then let the bank teller update the BB. Bank statement makes sense for 12 month (but not required at many offices) becuase if you have interest / tax entries or are using it as a primary account for spending every month and you don't regularily update the BB, you will eventually get a consolidated entry that doesn't include all actual detail in the BB. In that case, a 12-month statement is the only way immigration can verify all details and that the balances remained above the guidelines. With only 60/90 days you don't have the risk of a consolidated entry. Good Luck!
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Best to call the Immigration office directly and ask for your situation (first 1 year extension). Like I mentioned in my original post, when my wife called before my appointment the woman told her both certificate, 12 month statement and copies of the bank book since last 12 month extension. You are doing your first extension so you will need to show 60-90 days of activity prior to the date you apply for your extension. The immigration office will tell you BB / statement / both. It's not clear from your post if you are doing the money in the bank or monthly transfers. If I remember correctly for money in the bank, for your first 12 month extension you have to show 800K+ in a Thai bank (international transfer(s)), account in your name only for at least 60 days prior to the date you go to immigration and apply for the extension (balance can't go below this). Hope this helps
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Completed on a 31 May (Wednesday) - 30 days in advance of expiry (I have heard you can do 45 days early at this office) Money in the bank method Online appointment booked on Monday (print out and take with you) Time from documents check downstairs to receive PP with stamps upstairs - less than 20 minutes Monday went to bank and got certification letter and 12 months of statements THB 300 took 45 minutes (my wife rang HH Immigration local help desk said getting these on Monday was fine for Wednesday appointment and that I needed both). The statement also prevents an IO request for additional information (2nd trip to bank and Immigration) if you have consolidated / missing enries in your bank book. Documents provided with two 4x6 photos Packet 1 - TM7 (Extension) 1) Completed TM7 front and back completed in blue ink - you must use their thin paper form and you can pick the form (and TM8) at Blueport (on the table in the front) or at the Immigration office along with the current list of required documents 2) PP copy data page, all previous extension pages, last entry stamp page 3) Bank Certification Letter + 12 month statement from bank 4) Copy of bank book pages since last extension updated at bank on day of Immigration visit (Wednesday) after a small transfer / transaction 5) Copy of last TM-30 (Address) and most recent TM47 (90-Day) receipts 6) Copy wife's Tambien Bahn (main and her page) 7) Copy wife's ID as house owner ???? Copy of my yellow book pages (if you don't have one 6&7 should be fine with a "lease"), I just included this with my documents and they weren't returned. 9) Hand drawn map to house (this is on the required document list for retirement extension, not sure if it was needed). IO did remove and tear up a page at the back of my paperwork, maybe not impressed with my artwork? All copies signed / certified in blue ink by either me or my wife (depending on the document) Packet 2 - TM8 (Reentry Permit) 1) Completed TM-8 form (again, their thin paper form, double sided completed in blue ink. I left the top section of page 2 blank since it needs to be updated with reference to the new extension being issued same day). IO updated this for me. 2) PP bio page, current extension, existing re-entry permit and last entry stamp Arrived around 13:40 there was no queue and I was directed to one of two information desks downstairs to check documents. I was asked for both TM7 and TM8 paperwork at the same time, TM-8 was surprising compared to BKK since I didn't have my new extension, yet. My documents were quickly checked, got the OK, and the nice IO "glue-sticked" the photos on both forms for me. I had the photos in a small bag because I didn't want to have to repurpose / re-glue them if the forms were incorrect. This entire process took less than 3 minutes and was directed upstairs to the main office. Upstairs, only two people waiting for a service, no other's in queue and no queue number needed and went directly to desk 3 for online appointments to process the paperwork, showed the friendly IO the appointment / paperwork and sat down to begin review process. The IO reviewing paperwork was impressively efficient. He only asked me to write my mobile on the TM7, made a copy of my bank book account # page (I forgot this) and included it in the stack. Less than 10 minutes later in front of me, stamps were in place, I was asked for the THB 5700 (1900 for extension +3800 for multi-reentry permit) and paperwork went to the back room for management approval. Paperwork was approved almost immediately. PP, bank book and change returned and I was good to go. I gave the IO returning the items a thumbs up, a smile and a big thank you because I was very impressed how quickly this entire process took. Verified that extension granted to same day of the expiry of the previous one and wife and I were on our way! Incidentally, they put a new / updated formal TM30 print out in my PP stapled to the back cover, the form was blank other than my address on file typed in the blank part at the bottom of the receipt. My last TM-30 was in July 2022 and I live at the same address. However, since that TM-30 I did exit and re-enter Thailand and also stayed in a few domestic hotels. My wife and I weren't asked to do a new TM-30; the team did it without asking when processing my extension and never mentioned it. TM-47 (90-day reporting) - The team also did a 90-day report for me, even though mine isn't due until early July. This would work out well for those who don't leave Thailand and can keep a 4x year cycle in sync with extension renewals. I hadn't read that this happens before at PKK (Hua Hin) Immigration. Only CM and few others. Overall a great experience, I hope this report helps some others.
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Non-B Visa to retirement - Leave Thailand?
Expat4life66 replied to Korat88's topic in Thai Visas, Residency, and Work Permits
Hi, I usually just read this for entertainment ???? , but I believe I can provide some helpful information for OP including my own timeline based on my experience. And yes, I was able to remain in Thailand throuought the process. I went through this exact process at the end of June (BOI with One-Stop and CW) to change my extension based on working to be based on retirement. I worked for a multi-national and had been on Non-B extensions for nearly 10 years. It's not clear but I assume you are over 50? Understand what you are saying about your law firm, but after some discussion with my HR team, I realized it made the most sense for me to use the same law firm. This firm sub-contracts to a 3rd party to do all the legwork so maybe this is a possibility for you. This is the same firm my company uses to process our Non-B extensions at One-Stop, 90 day reporting and stamp transfers. The activities related to changing my extention to be based on retirement (I call it a conversion) was at my own expense. Using the same firm worked best for me because when I went to CW to do this conversion, In addition to the standard retirement extension documents, that team required all of my Non-B paperwork used the previous week at One Stop to cancel my extension. I did not have this paperwork, the law firm did. CW spent almost three hours including multiple phone calls to One-Stop validating that my previous 4-year BOI extension / cancellation was done correctly. I did notify my HR department a couple months in advance and they were well aware that I could change the reason for my extension from working to retirement (or marriage) as long as I met the requirements. Our HR Lead notified our law firm and provided non-B related documents for the cancelation. At the same time, I started working with a different lawyer at the firm during the last few weeks leading up to retirement to provide the standard copies for changing the reason to retirement. Law firm also asked for TM-30 for my current address, and evidence of 800K in the bank for at least two months prior to the date of the planned extension. They further asked for a copy of my updated bank book a couple of times over the two months to show I hadn't gone below 800K (overkill a bit but I get why). Here's about how my timeline went with my formal retirement date of June 30 (this is also the date we did the conversion at CW) 1- Notified HR of planned retirement in April 2- April - HR worked with law firm to create timeline 3- Mid-June - HR provided all updated documents for the cancellation including post dated letter (no idea what documents but the stack was at least 1 inch / 2.5cm thick 4- 22 June - law firm 3rd party picked up my passport (as they always do for 90 day and extensions) for the cancellation 5- 23 June - 3rd party took paperwork inc. post-dated retirement letter of 30 June to One Stop and processed cancellation. I did NOT have to attend. My cancelation stamp opposite my old and now void working extension / re-entry permit is dated 23 June. Because my company letter was post-dated to 30 June I was given until 6 July to leave Thailand (7 days). This is the part I never clearly upderstood reading here until I actually went through the process. 6- 28 June went to bank to get letter, took about 30 minutes and they deducted 100THB prior to issuing - no statement required because my bank book didn't have consolidated entries for those two months 7- 29 June gave all standard docs / photos / PP / bank book to the law firm's 3rd party (agent) 8- 30 June - 6am transfer 100THB to same account to show "day of activity", LINED my contact / agent. He updated the bank book at CW and made copy at 730 or so right before I met him 9 - 30 June next got cue number and started process, CW was quite busy but only 3-4 in the retirement queue. Started the lengthly process mentioned above had new stamps right before lunch, went back after lunch and did the multi-reentry permit, took 10 minutes. Final thought, even though I was technically still employed on 30 June, this didn't matter at CW for changing the extension to retirement becuase the cancellation had already been processed by One-Stop on 23 June,. I initially thought I would have to go between 1 July and 6 July and was assured by law firm this was not the case. Hope this helps some folks including OP,