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On 12/13/2019 at 9:14 PM, rooster59 said:Since the middle of that month until now occupancy rates at Pattaya hotels are down 20% on where they should be. Normally at this time of year hotels would be full, he said.
It's not as bad as I thought from what people are saying. Perhaps they'd better stash away all they can in case it's down 30 to 40% next high season.
The Thai people and gov't have created their own many-headed tourism monster over the years, confident that there was no other place in the world to compete with Thailand and completely losing focus of what made it such a desirable destination, especially for the more-frugal adventurer.
Greed and xenophobia have probably made the biggest long-term contribution to any economic suffering Thais will face, and those tendencies are too deeply rooted to be changed anytime soon. It will be interesting to see how far Thailand sinks in the area of tourism before attitudes truly change, if they actually can.
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So, it was a happy ending for Big Joke as he was safely in a Patpong massage parlor while his car was being shot up.
I wonder if he knows for sure who has sent this warning. I suspect he's made a lot of enemies over the years on both sides of the law.
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9 hours ago, webfact said:
He said that social media calls for the arrest of the man on traffic violations would not wash as this happened off road.
A law preventing people from riding or driving motorized vehicles into any building (where it's accessed by the public) would make some sense, wouldn't it?
It's funny how some people, like that clown, just love to show the world what whiny privileged jerks they are.
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12 hours ago, jak2002003 said:
Yes, calling is a disease was the worst thing someone came up with because it take all self responsibility away from the individual... something that seems common these days... it's always some else's fault.
It's an addiction... to a drug, which IS self inflicted. It is not a bacteria or virus they happened to get innocently transmitted to a non alcoholic one day... its not like the common cold.
True enough. I had a family member who was an alcoholic, and whenever people got angry at him for his addiction, he would lash back at them, half in anger and half in self-pity, saying that he was suffering from a disease and people should have sympathy for him.
To me it seemed just a convenient cop-out to avoid approaching his problem like the addiction it was and instead just resigning himself to an attitude of hopelessness because it's a "disease". And I bet he was happy to hear that term used for his condition -- one that in his mind relieved him of his responsibility to fight it.
I smoked cigarettes for a long time and admit I was addicted. I chose to experiment with them in my teens and was foolish enough to become addicted. It wasn't a disease. It was an addiction, and I had to go through the discomfort of withdraw in order to beat my addiction, just like any addict has to, whether it's opiates, alcohol, sex, or gambling.
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12 hours ago, rooster59 said:
Police said this kind of incident damages Pattaya’s reputation as a world class tourist destination.
And some members of the force have actually trained themselves to say that without bursting out in hysterical laughter.
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1 hour ago, bobfish said:
Fortunate he didn't ask for 650b MTB then.
I guess small frames with big wheels are what sells in Thailand. ??
Other than the OP sourcing himself, 888bike sometimes comes up with some gems: eg https://888bike.net/product/8505/จักรยานเสือภูเขาฟูลซัส-giant-off-road-trail-full-suspension-trance-212sp-slx-27-5-giant-my2020
A bit of a search around might uncover others.
I should probably apologize to the OP. My type of post comes from a terrible combination of a corny sense of humor and pedantic appreciation for accurate use of language. So, sorry for any insincerity and best wishes for finding something that fits your needs.
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14 hours ago, falang07 said:Proper tough boys, 20 on 1, yeah, cowards as ususal ????
Now, let's be fair here. The jetski operator had 3 others on his side, so it was a proper 5 to 1 ratio as is custom in Thailand -- a fair fight.......by Thai standards. ????
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I remember seeing something about using a powerful enough magnet to destroy any data, but you'll likely have to remove the HD's to do it....and find a big ol' magnet.
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6 hours ago, xylophone said:
It might sound good in theory, however the Thais and for that matter, the Burmese, who work in small to medium sized businesses are paid a pittance and are barely able to survive.
Go up one level and the Thais who rent the shops and businesses that employ these people and sell whatever they sell, are also not much better off, because they are being screwed from both sides, the fact that the landlords put the rents up when they feel like it, and the fact that the tourists are not spending anywhere near what they used to.
It's the landlords and property owners who perhaps have the money stashed away, not the people you see facing the everyday public and tourists. And those are the people for whom I feel sorry, because they are "between a rock and a hard place" to quote an old Antipodean saying.
Oh, I was being sarcastic about having money stashed away. Saving for the future is hardly a Thai trait from what I've seen and known. And as for reading anything into my post asserting that the peons would have cash stashed away from fleecing the public is mysterious to me as they'd very obviously not be in position to do so.
But a post reminding us it will truly be the peon migrant workers who will likely suffer the most isn't a bad thing, so even if the sarcasm was missed and and some parts misinterpreted, your inadvertent reminder to perhaps drop the sarcasm and feel some compassion for the real victims of any economic strife Phuket may suffer isn't a bad thing at all.
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Gee, I saw the topic heading and wondered two things: 1) why does anyone need that many mountain bikes, and 2)How does one specifically buy 1/2 a mountain bike? ????
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So, is it ONLY hoteliers that are suffering? Do the restaurants and entertainment venues have good cash flow? Do the low hotel occupancy rates mean tourist numbers are low as well, or are non-traditional accommodation like AirB&B creating too much competition for hotels?
If there are just as many tourists spending just as much money but not staying in hotels, will the gov't be concerned? I guess the only thing they could do in that case to satisfy the hotel industry would be to disallow AirB&B, but couldn't that blow up in their faces with people deciding they'd rather go to places where rules effecting their holiday spending and choices aren't being dictated and limited?
Thailand may be putting itself between a serious rock and hard place.
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Phuket business people should be just fine. They've been fleecing the public for decades and must surely have oodles of cash stashed away for these inevitable rainy days when they've finally priced themselves beyond what's competitive. They can just enjoy the down time and treat it as that nice long vacation they deserve for all their hard work over many years, digging as deep into tourist's pockets as they can. That's got to be hard work, so let them slack off for a few years to catch up on sleep and soap operas. It will be very sanook for them!!! ????
But of course, that could all be foiled next week when TAT announces that tourism numbers are way up over previous years.
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Israel seems to be always putting itself in a position where it gets harder and harder to defend its actions in a fair-minded court of public opinion. The actions of its gov't are causing me to feel more and more compassion and sympathy for the strife of the Palestinians.
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It will be interesting to see how it all plays out in Sudan over the next few years. With al-Bashir in jail on a 2-year sentence and possibly facing extradition to answer to charges being leveled by the Hague for war crimes and genocide, it seems the temporary military-civilian gov't means business and these 27 members of the police force, where the victim was beaten to death, are paying the ultimate price, and not just for their own crimes.
I think that action is more statement or warning to corrupt officials that there is no longer any place for brutally administering lethal "justice" when it serves their purposes, and punishment will not only be swift but also severe.
Most people just want normal opportunities for a happy, productive life, so hopefully true changes will come to Sudan.
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22 minutes ago, Dexlowe said:
With that kind of logic, you belong in Thailand.
I knew any that any defense of posting signs that address the reality of people drink driving and a reminder to take some extra caution would quickly get criticized by people who maintain a traditional approach to the situation of doing nothing more than what has accomplished nothing.
You have shot down my post while offering nothing of value to the thread, and as that's probably the laziest and most useless thing to do, I will graciously offer yo this opportunity to redeem yourself by showing your intelligence and stating what is so wrong with my opinion.
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12 hours ago, uncleeagle said:
Having been given morphine in hospital I cant imagine what 13 times more powerful would do because I was already in heaven when they had me on that stuff...I somehow doubt it can be true. After all, if it was true, then why would a controlled kratom not be used in hospitals instead of an equally controlled morphine?
When I broke my ankle it didn't really hurt very much in the ambulance, but I was eventually given morphine at the hospital after a young doctor botched a temporary hot-splint setting that put me in extreme pain. It had absolutely no effect on me, so they gave me some more, and the same was true. The next day, they gave me two percocet tablets as I was about to leave the hospital, and within 20 minutes I was vomiting violently. That continued for about an hour, and I was so sick for the next 3 days, I couldn't eat any solid food.
It seems that not only do opiates not help my pain but can also make me violently ill, so I'm thrilled to hear of other sources being used and researched for pain management. Interestingly, Ibuprofen had the best results for relieving my pain while healing, and of course I didn't even bother to fill the percocet prescription.
Management of nausea has been a challenge for doctors and pharma, but cannabis is helping with that aspect of well-being, so let's hope the business players of medicine embrace the anecdotal truths people know about these natural substances and make their medicines available with best effect.
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Shameful behavior by greedy old men who are terrified of any progress in Thai politics -- terrified that their financial rape of Thailand may encounter any sort of uncomfortable hiccup or extra scrutiny. They don't care what impression the world has of their nation because any informal sanctions like a severe drop in tourism or cuts in aid won't effect them -- only their poorer compatriots, who they view with spite anyway.
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I'd probably approach the situation by having him try his luck at the border but be prepared to be apprehended, even if it's unlikely. I'd think that if they really were scrutinizing his follow-up testing, they wouldn't have let it slide like they did.
The one thing I noticed in your post was no concern expressed for a possible situation of substance abuse or addiction, and not doing follow up testing could easily be more than his objection to it being "once every week". It's terribly addictive stuff for many people, so you and his mother would be doing the kid a big injustice by not getting him tested anyway. Addicts can very cunning in manipulating people, especially doting, loving mothers to assure them they don't have a problem.
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On 12/24/2019 at 3:34 PM, webfact said:
The government has expected the economy to improve in the first quarter next year after its launch of short-term, medium-term and long-term stimulus packages.
Prayut added that the government has prepared a host of measures to cope with employee layoffs at some companies and shutdowns at others.
The economy will improve, so the gov't has prepared a host of measures to cope with people losing their jobs and companies closing? What am I missing? There is no logic to connect the two situations.
I see a vast contrast between those two paragraphs, and it seems to indicate that either the person writing that stuff didn't have a clue or the person providing the info didn't have a clue, or perhaps they were both happily clueless together with no regard for making any sense.
It seems that not making sense when talking about ways to weaken the baht is the only consistency the gov't has had with the situation. They really do not seem to have any real ideas or perhaps as many have indicated, any desire.
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The kid knew he didn't have a chance of winning against the powers that be, but he did the right thing in pursuing some justice to expose some truth about Thai politics. The rejection of the old guard by so many at the ballot boxes in favor of the FF party seems to have REALLY rattled them, and the witch hunt for reasons to chase Thanathorn (and any future upstarts like him) away from politics will be relentless. There's no room for progressive thinking in Thai politics.
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1 minute ago, Jingthing said:
Yes some of the places let you choose your level of sugar including no sugar. I only go to those places and do 25 percent. The bubbles aren't really sweet. It's more about texture.
Oh I see. I guess the vendors have responded to consumer wants. I only remember this stuff as being super sugary. And yes, tapioca (cassava) is just a ball of carbs so no sweetness to it. At 25% of the usual sweetness, it may be alright.
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I tend to leave both the "tea" and the "bubbles" in the cup. I don't like tapioca or sugary drinks, so this stuff completely misses the mark for me.
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1 hour ago, Ron jeremy said:The cost of smokers to employers is huge, 1 hour a day minimum, lost time as these people think it's their God given right to sit in the smoke pit while others continue to work.
every job is the same. Smoke before coffee break, then after, then before and after lunch break. Then after the simplest task is completed. Smoke time!
No pity from me when they are on their last breath.
That does appear to be the cost, but just because people have left the immediate situation to have a cigarette doesn't mean they've stopped working. Where I taught for years, a regular group of us would be attracted the old picnic table at about the same time every morning, which was the designated smoking spot, and discussions about the students, methods, situations and other pedagogical subjects were normal. It was a nice regular exchange of supportive info and probably more worthwhile in that way than the formal workshops and staff meetings we would have.
And if I was going out at a time when there was likely nobody else out there, I'd take some of the ever-nagging paperwork to do. And further to that, even if the computer programmer or a person in some other thought-oriented employment is away from the computer or desk, that doesn't mean he or she has turned their mind off their job. The reason that nesting didn't working their code or some other such problem is probably being contemplated and possibly even solved during the relaxing moment of enjoying their smoke.
When I finally quit smoking tobacco, I still took my breaks with my cigarette-smoking colleagues because I missed the quality of the informal meeting we'd have. So, assuming that all production has stopped when people leave the desk to have a cigarette, isn't really fair.
As for showing no sympathy to the people who got lulled into their addiction by the tobacco companies I see them as victims -- not thieves.
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I loved being in Thailand during Xmas and avoiding all the hype and commercialization going on back home. I'd send a few cards out then make some phone calls, and that was it. There was no sense in trying to exchange gifts with family or friends back home as the odds they would reach their destination was very poor. (The first 2 times I tried getting parcels sent to Thailand they disappeared and never made it.)
I don't agree with eating sushi as a proper Xmas meal in Thailand, though. ???? When a colleague wasn't hosting a proper Xmas dinner, which was fairly common, I always made a point of having Isaan bar-b-que, which is B-B_Q'd chicken with somtam and sticky rice. The chicken was the obvious replacement for turkey, the sticky rice served as my stuffing, and the green papaya salad as the veggies. Worked for me. ????
RTP: Trust us, we will find inhuman gold shop robber - and don't copy him
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I have to wonder how they are going to confirm with complete certainty that they've got the right guy, especially in a case where they follow the "shoot to kill" order. They will not concede defeat in solving this crime, and I only hope that they don't decide that some "likely" suspect has to answer for it to appease the masses.