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I used to have this colloidal silver device a long time ago. Almost forgot about it, but I do not have one anymore.

Maybe one thing I could add to your list is that I do nasal wash - now daily, since the pollution started in December. But since it is salt water, it should also keep you generally healthy. Takes 1min in the morning if you have done it for some time and are used to it.

WaveHunter,

as much as I appreciate your information, what are you going to do?

You said decisive action is required. You write here all day which is nice for people who want to know but what difference does it make?

I do not mean that insulting or mean in any way. But you tell us all to take it serious, and then? Locking myself up in my room 24/7? I rather die early.

All you wrote about the ICU care and not enough beds etc. - yes you are right. What are you going to do? What can we do? Nothing. So that is why I am asking. I am not ignoring the coronavirus, I know it is a serious threat but I also know that for me personally in my position there is nothing I could do.

I think I need a new motorbike now. I want to save 50 Baht per year 555

The give a free mask? A real one for pollution? Maybe I should go there every day and stock up this way 555

You should be happy about the fake numbers.

I think I am not the only one who travels and wants to come back here after the smog without airlines cancelling flights as they do to China.

Dont worry, soon there will be an order to resolve it within 7 days 555

I am curious what happens if I get the virus, recover. Is the body immune after that or can you get it a second time?

Monitoring and checking 555

But if the stations go above 200 AQI many times they are offline. Wonder if that is coincidence hahaha

I also think the numbers are not correct.

But you have to consider, all the numbers are likely fake which come from China. Not only the infections but also the death rate. We simply do not have a clue.

Thats why I neither like the panic attitude nor the "it is nothing" attitude. Lets wait and see.

I have been thinking about this a lot and been here since 2016. Was actually not here mostly during smoky season but observed from far away.

I cannot remember it being a big deal 2017, maybe 2-3 months of orange/red pollution. It is undoubtedly bad, but wasnt a big deal for me because I just travelled away. Same 2018, was 3 months but consistent - in one period and then over - easy to avoid and travel. 2019 very similar - yes much higher readings but one stretch of 3 months from about mid February to May 20th.

The issue I and many have now is that they do not stop. They have been burning since I came here in December. That makes it 6 months of burning if it lasts until mid/end May again.

If you cannot or do not want to move, there is nothing you can do apart from air purifiers, masks etc. It is understandable that you cannot just sell your house and go. I really hope that one day they solve it, because I do love this city so much, but all things have to come to and end. I have accepted that in the medium-term things will not change. Nothing will be done about the air pollution. Not saying this in a negative or bitter way, just the facts.

I am curious what changed and why they have so much to burn since 2019. 6 months consistent burning instead of 3 months before. So why so much more? I would be curious if anyone knows.

The reason why nothing will change is, because the majority of locals just does not care. Not talking about those who burn. Just normal people. Pollution is just no concern to them, again talking about the majority. Now they wear a mask because of the virus. Never seen anyone wear a mask before since December.

Perhaps the PM could give an ultimatum of 7 days once again. This would surely help to resolve it. Now he should have free time because he already solved the pm2.5 crisis and was praised for it.

22 hours ago, TigerandDog said:

So much for all the district offices in Chiang Mai Province advising EVERY village that burning off of any kind was banned from the 1st January this year indefinitley. Offenders are supposed to be liable to 50000 baht fines and/or 6 months imprisonment.

This is the difference between Thais and foreigners.

Foreigners like us discuss this topic over and over again. Thais already know it wont get enforced and continue with their fun. Who is stupid now? We are the stupid ones - they are clever and know its just talk 555

Let him recover outside on the balcony. Because pm2.5 has been solved already, so he should like it. Maybe the reason why he is sick in the first place. สมนำหน้า

Would not be worried too much about the flights.

If they cancel it, you get a refund.

I have also around 6 flights up to until Europe in the next two months. All non-refundable 555

What bothers me more is how to do it on a long-haul flight, these masks are not really comfortable for so many hours. Also as I said before, stockpile (masks) does not last forever so I have to be stingy, since it is so difficult to buy more.

It is really sad, a city I love so much, inhabitable now.

But time to accept now; nothing is forever in life, right?

4 hours ago, CNXexpat said:

Beside the fact that forest fires are forbidden, sure, they can do what they want. Following laws or not, poisoning their own citizens... Up to them. 

I guess you are not living in Thailand. Lol

"Forbidden" every year if you mean this funny "burning ban" 555

Yes I am here. But I am realistic that there is nothing I can do other than air purifiers, masks and leaving next week for 3 months.

It is "up to them" and we have nothing to say. Just plain truth.

I am more worried about air pollution when my mask supply runs out.

For the virus a simple surgical mask preventing you touching your face would be the same effect as a N95.

Seems I can get some in Europe in about 14 days to stock up and bring them here. But really expensive - I saw some for around 2 EUR per piece and last time in the 3M shop I bought the N95 for 20 THB per piece.

It is not practical using the mask only once.

I use my N95 (use it for pollution) until it does not fit anymore (usually loosens around the nose first) - usually happens after 2-5 days depending on how much I use it / go out.

I did not count my mask stockpile I bought a few months ago but maybe it is around 50-80, so I have already reasons to worry because if corona continues, there will be no masks available to buy.

Curious about how you guys do it but for me I am very careful that the masks last as long as possible now.

And now?

Its their country. Can burn 3 months per year or 6 months per year, up to them.5555

Democratically elected PM said situation is 100% under control.

So why all the fuss? 5555

Hahaha I do not even bother to check.

But I will soon wear my mask to get some fresh air into the rooms and then purify it again.

I stopped checking the pm2.5 outside - why? Already know the result. Can save the time by just putting on the mask right away. 55555

Thank you for your insight about China WaveHunter. It is a good way to learn about the country.

You have to see the good things. Also about coronavirus. We can finally wear a mask without looking weird. Without people thinking we are strange people. Thailands non-stop burning season leaves me no option. But finally, Thai people accept us wearing a mask and think it is because of the virus.

The main reason I wear a mask outside is the air pollution. Luckily I have around 70 masks here from my last shopping trip. I am reading it is difficult to get them now, though I am not sure if that is true or hysteria.

Oh thats great, thats why AQI was "only" 170 today and not above 200.

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