grollies

7 hours ago, CLW said:

Thanks for the details.
I wished all chickens in Thailand would be raised in this way...

A lot are. Wifey is on a Line group with 300 other farms, they all share tips and experience. The only downside to most other farms is biosecurity, mostly non-existent. All the meat and blood testing though is standard. I'm happy eating Thai chicken.

33 minutes ago, IsaanAussie said:

Give you a clue. F'ck me its hot! Appetite versus RH and temp. Your birds look like they might be panting?

They are starting to but only the last couple of days, they're getting towards 3.3kg 

Max temp is 28degC with the pads on 80%RH and at the same time feed consumption has levelled out together with water consumption.

Funny, they drink exactly twice as much as they eat litre/kg.

I am thinking of adding ceiling vents towards the pad end. Only small openings but to let in warmer air. Theory is as it cools and drops the RH should decrease. What do you think?

What did you do about the flies? They drive me nuts.

2 minutes ago, kannot said:

ok

Cool, I love pineapple. Chap next door grows it. How's the price doing round your way?

4 minutes ago, IsaanAussie said:

Well at 1:1400 and B200/litre the cost per bird is not high. A 3.5 Kg chicken will take a while to drink a litre. If it works, and its his vet's reputation at stake. I'd be inclined to make sure he knows you are watching the results. 

You are on a zero cost base if it is in fact working. You wont save any money using EMRO's stuff until you can show FCR  and medication/vet cost improvements.

Spot on. I'll let you know our next FCR, last one 1.70

Currently trying to figure out how the Kiwis get 1.38

2 hours ago, IsaanAussie said:

Beware there are many things "labelled by locals" as EM. The real EM is made here by EMRO and is the original Japanese Dr Haga formulation. Last time I purchased that it was 80 baht per litre and the labelling was printed in green on the 1 litre white plastic packaging. Take a look at www.emro-asia.com for the logo.

There are local clones which are sold for around 50 baht per litre (not a lot of difference in effect). 

I used a couple of different brands for composting etc and for the pigs to start.

Later I got a special probiotic starter brew which I then reproduced on farm (2 200Litre drums). It supposedly had a different set of microbes (big secret???). All I know is it produced marginally better FCR and immune system results. BUT it was 30K initially to set it up, after that zero per litre. 

I don't know if birds require anything special but I chose the pig special since the Health Department Head "suggested" it would fix a repeated complaint he was getting and dismissing. I really didn't get a choice and didn't think too much about the shares in the proceeds.

**** What did your vet do to get the EM going?

All probiotics are supplied inert or "asleep". The first step is to activate them. 

 

You are dosing at 1:1400. That is about the same as I was told to use with the pig EM.

 

I have 4 1000 litre tanks which I put 1 litre/tank of either EMA or the EM-Pig into before I filled them. 

 

So it was using one litre of EMA (made by fermenting 1 litre of EM, 1 litre of molasses and 18 litres of water in a 20 litre jerry can for about a week) or drawing a litre of EM-Pig from the brew tanks.

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks, I'll look it up. Apparently what he supplies is activated and I've no doubt it's home made. Plus he's charging B200/litre.

I add to drinking water same as vitamin, vaccine, etc using the dosing pump.

32 minutes ago, IsaanAussie said:

How are you introducing the EM and at what dosage/dilution? I used activated EM (EMA = 1:1:20) at 1/1000 in the water used for drinkers and pen washing for our pigs. Brilliant results. 

First time we've used it. Supplied from our vet. He removed the labels from the containers to preserve his source and profit......so I don't know what concentration it is supplied. We dose in the wayer at 1:1400.

If you could tell me what EM product you used I'd be grateful.

26 minutes ago, Nyezhov said:

What's there. 

Me, next week 555. Good beaches, nice little hotels, good restaurants, Thai and European. Good fresh seafood. No go-go bars.

Just keep away from Mae Phim, near Rayong.

I read somewhere on here about the mothball trick, actually think it was Crossy. Use them in all our electrical control panels to stop gin joks shorting stuff out.

I even put them inside an outdoor TV after gin joks cost me B2,000 to repair the Samsung TV. I also put them in the switch box for the borehole pump after the breaker kept tripping, again, fried gin jok. Good tip.

These work quite well

To be fair the topic could be reversed and posted by a Thai female: Australian men in Thailand - multiple girlfriends.

14 minutes ago, TheWarrior said:

Yes I'm aware of that rick. As Long as I stay long term on the land is ok. I guess the best way is to ask a lawyer. I was just wondering if people have some knowledge about it.

Do you have a Thai wife and dependants?

19 minutes ago, TheWarrior said:

Ok I dont completely understand all this. But let me just put imaginary scenario. I find a person who has 20 rai of Land. Then I give him fair money for his land as a LOAN against the title

And what do you as a farang do after he has pocketed the cash 'loan', refuses to pay it back and when you go to the court to take title possession they tell you to get lost? You are farang, you cannot own chanote land deeds.

Your post is a fantasy mate.

3 hours ago, possum1931 said:

What about drawing funds from a bank, or booking a train ticket? I always have to hand my passport

over so they can record the details.

Sorry, I meant hand over to someone to keep hold of as these motocy companies seem to do.

Lunch BBQ pulled pork rib sandwich. First try was ok.

Full hit next time with coleslaw, salad, fries and better bread (and a cold beer).

The only way to avoid paying it is not to have a sign. My missus won't have one which caused a few delivery problems to start with but we're not hard to find 

8 hours ago, neeray said:

After you have successfully established many Thaivisa denizens in the floor scrubbing business, here's another one for you. But make sure with these opportunities that you have it fronted by a Thai. They really despise us westerners coming in and telling them how to run a business, or their country.

 

Opportunity: Figure out how to dispose of the after-harvest crop refuse without burning it off. Maybe the denizen farmers on Thaivisa can comment on an idea that I have thought about; mulch it into the ground. Buy industrial mulchers and sell the service. Could become a franchise opportunity.

 

 

Already happening.

14 minutes ago, Crossy said:

This is the closest I've got to a locally availalble arrangement that accepts two BS1363 plugs, with a bonus 2-pin socket too.

 

 

Unfortunately you can't replace the 2-pin with a switch as the UK plug just fouls.

 

 

Whilst it doesn't fit IN a Thai back box it does cover a Thai box and the 5 unit carrier has holes that line up with the standard fixings. That said I think I'd add a couple of extra screws into the wall if damage to the wall wasn't an issue.

 

Thanks, appreciate it. I was thinking the other day the switch would still foul. But the pic is just what I needed, now wifey can go out armed with the right info. Very kind of you to post it up.

20 minutes ago, djayz said:

Thanks Grollies!

Would you mind giving me the BKK tel. no.? I know you said they don't stock it any more, but if enough people enquire about it, maybe they'll realise that there's a demand for it. 

02-563-1050 or 02-563-1043

@djayz. Hello mate. I think this is what you are after. Now the bad news, just phoned the Bangkok number and they don't stock it anymore due to lack of demand. Dr Treelove's online link is going to be your best bet. I'll be checking out the link too, mine's just about run out.

I don't understand why this stuff is not widely used here but farmers seem to like their chemicals more. Even Gen Pryut mentioned using neem on his friday show the other week. Education I suppose?