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From a UN findings of the 7th of October attack: 5. Information received by the mission team indicates that on the morning of 7 October 2023, at about 6:30 AM and under the cover of an unprecedented barrage of rockets, a coordinated attack by Hamas joined by other armed groups, which reportedly included the Palestinian Islamic Jihad, Popular Resistance Committees, other armed elements and armed and unarmed civilians, breached the Gaza perimeter fence at multiple points, entered the Gaza periphery and attacked military and civilian targets, including surrounding villages and towns, music festivals 1 and adjacent roads. The complexity and modus operandi of the attacks, which seem to have occurred over three cumulative waves, appear to demonstrate a significant level of planning, coordination and detailed prior knowledge of the targets selected. 6. The attacks resulted in approximately 1,200 fatalities 2 and thousands of injuries, predominantly among civilians. Based on information reviewed by the team, people were shot, often at close range; burnt alive in their homes as they tried to hide in their safe rooms; gunned down or killed by grenades in bomb shelters where they sought refuge; and hunted down on the Nova music festival site as well as in the fields and roads adjacent to the festival ground. Other violations included sexual violence, abduction of hostages and corpses, the public display of captives, both dead and alive, the mutilation of corpses, including decapitation, and the looting and destruction of civilian property. A total of 253 individuals, including some deceased, were taken as hostages. 13. At the Nova music festival and its surroundings, there are reasonable grounds to believe that multiple incidents of sexual violence took place with victims being subjected to rape and/or gang rape and then killed or killed while being raped. Credible sources described finding 5 murdered individuals, mostly women, whose bodies were naked from their waist down – and some totally naked – tied with their hands behind their backs, many of whom were shot in the head. On Road 232, credible information based on witness accounts describe an incident of the rape of two women by armed elements. Other reported instances of rape could not be verified in the time allotted. The mission team also found a pattern of bound naked or partially naked bodies from the waist down, in some cases tied to structures including trees and poles, along Road 232. In kibbutz Re’im, the mission team further verified an incident of the rape of a woman outside of a bomb shelter and heard of other allegations of rape that could not yet be verified... The full UN report here: https://ynet-pic1.yit.co.il/picserver5/wcm_upload_files/2024/03/04/r1PKanXpp/20240304_Israel_oWB_CRSV_report.pdf

This man, being smug and full of himself, forgot where he is and that he's a guest in this country that doesn't tolerate such, 'I'm better than you' type of behaviour towards the locals, Maybe that will teach him a lesson where ever he will thing to go and retire next...

Where do you get this rubbish from? what hostages and what white flags? mind you, anyone there is a suspected Hamas member and as such, shoot first, and ask questions later...

Are you referring to the 'journalist' who turned out to be a Hamas member from Al Jazera?...

What Zionism has to do with anything? like i said, not all Israelis are as such, not that it matters much defending a tiny country from millions of enemies looking to destroy it...

Just so you know the Israeli government is starting an inquest as what took place back there and the cause of the 100 + Palestinians...

My reply was a referral to the incident where a 100+ Palestinians died in food trucks a stampede.. stay awake will you?...

You'll want to know that not all Jews and Israelis are Zionists, so i call you post an inflammatory BS...

Are you asking me as an Israeli or a Palestinian? I'm sure that some have died needlessly, but let's not forget that there's a war raging on, not a garden party, and in such times, as a soldier, you're out there protecting yourself in order to come out alive...

And there's where the problem lies, on the point of one word... and on that word ten of thousand have died and will thousands will continue to die...

As I read, there are many, many Palestinians who would like nothing to do with Hamas and the mess they put them in but afraid to speak up as they know what will happen to them and their families if they do, so much for the lawless existence the Palestinians lives in on top of everything else...

The Palestinians are out 2 groups, the majority that really poor and destitute that only cares about living quietly and providing for their families and those, the Hamas and alike, that supposedly fight for the Palestinians cause, which, without Iran, Qatar and others help by funding and arming them would have amounted to nothing, Now any nation who want to fight for it's rights do not let terrorist and terrorism speak for them as it is futile and pointless not to mention deadly and costly, this is why, like it or not, this world has places like the ICJ to deal with such grievances, yes, it might take years and the results will not as expected, but it's much better than what the Palestinian are going through now isn't it? The bottom line is that Israel will not going to give any land away, and for the Palestinian, right or wrong, will never ever get what they want, and if you can't get what you want, get what you can, and the sooner they will learn it the better will be for themselves and their future, otherwise, calamities, destruction and misery will befall them forever...

Yeah? and who's gonna take over? Egypt? the only logical country sharing a border with Gaza, but what to do when even Egypt, a large Muslim/Arab country, absolutely don't want anything to do with terrorists infested, bunch of 'forever refugees' losers?... (why losers? because only losers will allow terrorist run their lives and allow such a calamity befalls on an already disadvantaged people)

So it would have been ok to shoot had it was the right car?...

This insatiable appetite of Thailand for more and more tourists is bordering with madness, nothing wrong with it if the infrastructure is there to accommodate them all but with the main tourism destinations becoming clogged with huge number of tourists busses and vans, traffic jam, even Bkk-Pattaya motorway is backed up at times not to speak of traffic jams there and in similar places...

Here's what is really the situation is, despite what we all wrote and read in countless threads in this forum concerning Israel-Palestinians issue, no truce, no peace, no reconciliation, no 2 states solutions will do anything to change how those both entities feels toward each other, Even in the event of 2 states solution, Gaza is not a self sufficient place, Palestinians will be wholly depended on Israel for essential everyday life's supply such as currency, food stuff, utilities, employment, water electricity and communications as well as entry and exit points, The haters will continue to hate and there will still be Hamas wanting to do what Hamas is being paid for, Palestinians who will want to extract revenge for this or that by one the occasional shooting and stabbing of Israelis, So you see, not so simple and easy, and even if and when Israel will leave the Palestinian and for their own devices there will be still condemnations of Israel not 'helping' the poor Palestinians...

Do you think for one moment that there was a fair solution Israel wouldn't have tried it already? Israel want peace and quite more than anyone else, is just like i said before, the Palestinians want a lot more than what Israel can give without sacrificing their security, secondly, those external powers that armed and supported the Palestinians so far will also want their pound of flesh otherwise why have they wasted all their efforts for nothing, So unless EVERYBODY IS HAPPY, no lasting peace will be possible, no matter who's right or who's wrong...

You and many others are deluding themselves that a long lasting and fair solution can be found where everyone is satisfied, not while a dozen other countries will agree to owing to their own agendas, We all know that the Palestinians are nothing but a pawns in the hands of those other countries and powers and that Hamas and other terrorist groups will not stop for one moment to re-arm themselves for the next round...

Never minds the ultra processed food where its up to us to buy or not, but the air we breadth is full of dust and harmful particles, at my home in a lofty condo with everything shut i find layers of dust everyday and everywhere, the dust we can see, but what else is in there that we can't see?...

This Israel-Palestinian war has gone way beyond those 2 entities and reaching and agreement to solve the issue will have to be with the nod of approval from other players in this conflict, the countries who were actively involved and inserted themselves in this conflict as well, countries such as Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Qatar, Iran, Iraq,Turkey, Lebanon and Yemen all all involved up to their neck with Russia, N. Korea and Iran supplying weapons and armaments to Hamas, One thing for sure, agreement or not, other than the Israelis vacating and leaving the whole of Israel for the Palestinians to 'go back to their land,' the hostilities will never end no matter what paper will be signed, The Palestinians (inflammatory phrase removed by Moderator) will not stop hate Israel and will continue to take any opportunity to take revenge Arab style, meaning shooting and stabbing at Israelis and Jews...

The Romans invaded the land of Palestine in 63BC. The Roman army marched into Jerusalem and took over the city. Very soon they took control of the entire country. Then the Romans put their own governors in charge to rule the people. Each governor had to make sure that the Jewish people of Palestine obeyed Roman laws and paid Roman taxes. In return the Jews were allowed to follow their own customs, and practice their own religion. However the Jews did not accept the Romans, They believed Palestine was their land, given to them by God

Wow, didn't see you coming out with such statements when 1,200 men, women and babies were raped, burned, mutilated and kidnapped 5 months ago, and you never called for the terrorists an animals to be brought to justice did you now? or Jews lives don't matter much to you?...

You can ask the same question regarding many countries around the world where immigrants have populated them like the US, Australia, Canada etc.etc. and where the so called Palestinians came from giving the fact that Jews inhabited the holy land for thousands of years, well before Islam and 'Palestinians'...

Well, the issue here is that the Palestinians want all of 'their lands back' (which is virtually the whole of Israel) and 'from the river to the sea' attitude, there're enough external forces, who to suite their agendas, makes sure that the Palestinians will continue to die while demanding such absurd conditions, and don't care if 10's of thousands of them will die in wars...

Just wondering what is the average Palestinian is thinking now that 5 months later from that 7th October date and with 30,000 dead? Gaza is in ruins, millions displaced in hunger and despair, having to loot food trucks to feed their families, was it worth it all to do what they did back 5 moths ago? and in a hindsight wisdom would would they still go out and do the same? better yes, have they learned anything from all of this? What do you think?...