Paul Catton

Neither post are similar regarding any dynamic or circumstances. Follow all legislation, as determined by both ones own Home Country (NZ) and the Proposed Host Country . This "applicant"can initially apply from overseas, per instructions from the "NZ Work and Income" website. I am under the age of having to engage this service, and perhaps dubious for veracity and deployment. Will ensure all i's dotted and t's crossed before

Incorrect, All past "injustice proven" should not detract or provide ambiguity within this thread. The person "D" per the "OP" applied within the standard time-frame to access his entitled NZ Superannuation. Please stop comparing any and all "Australian entitlements" to any "NZ entitlements". Person D, had apparently applied, been interviewed, and thus rejected, not from actual dynamic but through the misandry policies being promoted. . Presumably, there will be a paper-chase and <deleted> storm to face, but for about my estimate of THB 300,000+, Like Sir Edmund Hillary, "I would knock the Bastard Off"

The thread title is "New Zealand Old Age Pension" Unless, it is a private scheme and could have completely have different dynamics. I will simplify for this for you, as now being to indulge. Pension is a "generic term", and has different meaning throughout different Countries. "Pension" in Europe, especially in France is a terminology for lodgings. We use the term of "Superannuates" as set in our NZ Legislation? I have previously advised the distinct difference between the two. The subject of the OP appeared would have appeared to have met criteria upon his application. Please do not cherry-pick, as it seems to be he was an ordinary resident by the following statement in the OP. Criteria was apparently met from the "context of the OP" for application, as follows. "He tells me that he was denied at an interview when he "applied", because he was moving abroad. His account of the interview was that it was extremely hostile, verging on the vitriolic, and he was very upset about it". Apparently he would had to have been Resident at the time of this Interview I will continue to use the term of "NZ Superannuation" as opposed to any (private "Pension" being denied) as is plainly evident. Again, perhaps lay off the Heineken, maybe enjoy Carlsberg, or perhaps Stella Artois. "D does not have to re-establish his residency criteria as it would have been established by the initial interview,

"Superannuation", comes with a universal payment along with a "Gold Card " for use against general "Tax Payer" funded services being heavily discounted universally for supposed contribution.

Criteria was apparently met from the "context of the OP" for application, as follows. "He tells me that he was denied at an interview when he "applied", because he was moving abroad. His account of the interview was that it was extremely hostile, verging on the vitriolic, and he was very upset about it". Thus, regardless of any future intention (which may or may not have unfolded) the NZ Superannuation payment should have been "granted at the time". It is then up to the "Recipient of the Payment" to inform "Work and Income" when their circumstances actually change, (i.e. passing through "Border Control" at Auckland Airport for example), which should not have ruled out the denial for any initial and all payments. "New Zealand Superannuation" is "Portable" to Thailand, as evinced by many Kiwi recipients receiving it there. It would appear, this "Friend of the OP", has a case for retrospective payments, erroneously denied by a "Civil Servant" who should have been following "NZ Legislation" not an emotion based upon any personal misandry. Break it down from the current rates. The "Friend of the OP" has lost around about 12 years of "Superannuation Payments" which I believe he was entitled to, and at today's "current" rates which is: Current Payment rate if you're single "How much you get depends on your living situation and what tax code you use. Payments are fortnightly. Your living situation Live alone $1,076.84 Approximately, there are an "estimated past 12 Years", of what should have been perhaps deemed eligible payments at the onset, that were erroneously "denied", Retrospectively, the "Friend of the OP", I believes he has "Subject to Claim" against "Work and Income NZ" following the initial "vitriolic decision" if all records are documented. 12 Years x 26 Fortnightly payments, multiplied by fluency of foreign exchange rates, being applied retrospectively by jurisdictional law , should equate to a retrospective minimum payment of around THB 332,000, present day,

In New Zealand, the term "pension" most commonly refers to New Zealand Superannuation, a universal, non-contributory, flat-rate pension for residents aged 65 and over upon application.. This pension is paid fortnightly and the amount you receive depends on your living situation.

All payments by the NZ Government towards the terminology of "Pension", are payments paid out as " NZ Superannuation", All elderly folk, (me, approaching fast) being post 65 years of age are entitled to the prescribed Superannuation Payment subject to their correct application, It is not means tested, thus available to all "Citizens / Permanent Residents" who meet criteria.

Thanks for the "Precise Wording" you have extracted from the NZ "Work and Income" website. Perhaps a cat thrown among the pigeons! Eligibility wise: Are 65+ or older = Boxed Ticked. Have lived in New Zealand for a certain amount of time = Box ticked. Are ordinarily resident in New Zealand, the Cook Islands, Niue or Tokelau when you apply, and , have lived in New Zealand for a certain amount of time = Box ticked. I believe that the person in question "fulfilled the final criteria" from the following statement. "He tells me that he was denied at an interview when he "applied", because he was moving abroad. His account of the interview was that it was extremely hostile, verging on the vitriolic, and he was very upset about it". Eligibility would have been to be met, but appears to have been thwarted by an adverse "In-house Policy" when he applied with the "MSD Ministry of Social Development" who wrongfully decided an outcome at the time, by the above statement, which needs to be taken to task for retrospective compensation which has been denied. NZ Superannuation is portable upon application per any criteria being met. https://www.workandincome.govt.nz/on-a-benefit/overseas-travel/nz-super-and-veterans-pension/index.html A huge "Thanks" from me for your detailed observation regarding the pitfall.

Hi JAG Start with the following link. https://www.workandincome.govt.nz/eligibility/seniors/superannuation/who-can-get-it/index.html#yearstable I would say he's eligible and am quite happy to assist him with a representation on the ground here in NZ. PM me with relevant details and will start the ground work. Kind regards Paul

Following post may be helplul. Also you should be able apply from Thailand. https://www.workandincome.govt.nz/eligibility/seniors/superannuation/index.html You can apply now if either: your 65th birthday is in the next 12 weeks, or you're already 65. You can apply online through MyMSD, unless you live overseas. Apply for NZ Super Living overseas If you live in the Cook Islands, Niue or Tokelau, you need to complete and sign an application form. How to apply if you live in the Cook Islands, Niue or Tokelau If you live in another country, call us or email our International Services team. We'll check if you qualify and let you know how to apply. Our phone numbers

I believe that is what the "THAI VISA - ASEAN NOW" forum was initially designed for, rather than intentional bickering and showmanship contest.

On of our pilgrimages to Chiang Mai, I had decided to do a slow crawl up from Bangkok after the initial three night immersion in the "Big Mango", rather than hop on an Air Asia flight BKK-CNX. Itinerary was to be as follows: Mini-bus from Bangkok to Damnoen floating market then on to Kanchanburi for a two night stay. Mini-bus from Kanchanaburi to Ayutthaya for a two night stay. Train from Ayutthaya to Phitsanulok for a one night stay. Minibus from Phisanulok to Sukothai for a two night stay. Coach from Sukothai to Chiang Mai for the duration of the stay. Kanchanaburi is well worth a further visit as we only got as far as the terminus at Nam Tok using the "Death Railway". Ayutthaya ended up being a one night stay, there was no appeal, the Pasak river (A tributary to the Chao Phraya that forms the "old city" island, was putrid and stank. The levels of strewn trash was astounding. Phitsanulok was a surprise, as it is considered a junction stop type of place. The Nan riverside is nicely maintained and, coincidentally, had a great food / music festival during the visit. Old Sukhothai (Historical Park) as opposed to Sukothai Meuang (The New City), was a fantastic slow paced relaxing atmosphere, conveyance on bicycles, and watch ones stresses wash away.

Perpetrators, that attack against any individual "ownership" of Tesla vehicles from their perceived hatred of a "Brand", should be met with similar retribution, Have a beef with E. Musk, "Delete X ( ex-Twitter) from your feed, buy an EV from an alternative supplier, Activate all of "your free time" to challenge future Star link launches, or perhaps, lie on the ground underneath Space-X for its next countdown. Bankruptcy and financial harm for Individual persons who may be caught up in this "retrospective angst", is untenable .

Hi Mark, I would advise against trying to garner the system for your access to the current guaranteed NZ Superannuation payment system. The NZ Superannuation doesn't automatically fall into your bank account when you actually reach 65 years of age, regardless if you have a current bank account in NZ. An application by you, will still be required for a WINZ entry, complete with all "factual details", regarding this WINZ Benefit Payment. (it ceased to be a "NZ Pension under guarantee" years ago). The reason, presumably, WINZ requires this extended lead time, is for calculations and eligibility of processing payments to a non-binary "Overseas Country". Further calculations and verification based upon total years (spent in NZ) establishing the amount that you will then receive. @xylophone@Patong2, may well be able to provide further detail. Never get caught on the wild side, A vast number of recipients of NZ Superannuates holidaying overseas and thus unable to return home due to the "Covid-19 Lock down of NZ" had their benefit (NZ pension) cancelled and left them financially distraught. Kind regards Paul

Beggar to disagree,especially against a "Chip Butty" being almost close my staple food. All positive and negative experiences are dependent upon ones actual physical staying in this type of accommodation. Your rental may meet the mandatory 30 day requirement. Define under anonymity the accommodation regimes that you provide. For example: 1.TENURE A. Between 1-30 days. B. 30 + days per the "Holiday Act" 2. ALIEN REGISTRATION A. Do you process mandatory TM30 registration. Etc. I agree with your sentiment that the backstop, lies with the "Condominium Management" and their lack of management / enforcement for both, their legal responsibility and your codified contracts.