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This is an interesting article. It would seem many, many more people in Jakarta have already had Covid than was originally thought. I suspect that Covid never disappeared from Thailand but obviously the testing got ramped up. If the true number of infections were known, the infection fatality rate could come down VERY significantly. As it stands, for me it seems I would have above a 99.7 % chance of not dying from Covid. That, I think it could be fair to say is an overestimate, possibly a significant one at that. No? https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-07-12/covid-19-antibodies-jakarta-almost-half-of-population/100285384

I find statements like that unbelievable.

So, I ignore ALL news that is not fully in support of the vaccine. I dont even read it....its 'fake news' Such as these articles: https://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-uk-data-offer-mixed-signals-on-vaccines-potency-against-delta-strain/ https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/23/delta-variant-pfizer-covid-vaccine-39percent-effective-in-israel-prevents-severe-illness.html

So is it reasonable to NOT be an anti vaxxer BUT be an 'experimental' vaccine sceptic? To ask questions about its safety? To ask questions about is efficacy? Or, like Youtube is doing , do we shut down discussion of anything that questions the vaccine narrative? I am curious.

Good points. T

The elephant in the room is natural immunity. Listen to CNN and everyone needs a vaccine regardless of whether they have had Covid and recovered. There are other credible sources that dont agree with this. I think you are right. If they are reporting 20,000 cases in a day you can probably triple that number. Given that Thailand only really started seriously testing again a few months back, who knows how long Covid has been circling around Thailand undetected? Mass antibody testing would be interesting though it will never happen. I would like an antibody test myself....

Can they really base vaccine mandates with 100% certainty on these vaccines being 100% effective against hospitalisation....and spreading? I like to be able to question things. I should be allowed to. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/8/6/nearly-35-percent-of-uk-delta-hospitalisations-fully-vaccinated?fbclid=IwAR2sbw-ldY8vHBliqR9w-nyKglTlJsFmWbnhVkCy8qbpBKDze0r8w_beBGQ

Hang on...you had the virus already and your body fought it off. You have since had TWO vaccinations and are preparing for a third. You have already said regardless of getting vaccinated you can still get Covid 19........but you already had it....and survived. Its not the worlds greatest endorsement for the vaccine.

I would suggest that those people that are recovering are probably, in the main unvaccinated? At least a high proportion of them must be........Thats good news right???? Or is it not for some of you? Peoples own immune systems being able to fight off this virus.....good thing... right???? Or do they now have to get vaccinated as well?