oldlakey

13 hours ago, OnTheRun said:

Would a Filipino get 90 day visa exempt in Malaysia? I traveled there with Thai work colleagues who only received a 30 day entry while I received the 90 day exempt as you mentioned.

I never gave that a thought as I have always been a self centered individual

I have just had a look 

Please except my humble apologies for spouting BS where citizens of the Philippines are concerned

2 hours ago, grkt said:

 

And since when Filipinos are allowed to leave their country ? I have read here before that it was not that easy for them to travel abroad ?

 

 

 

 

That would depend on how many pairs of shoes they own

2 hours ago, keisee said:

I've been to Malaysia twice but only visited KL and Langkawi. Had a great experience! I look forward to going back to the country and visiting other parts of Malaysia ? 

90 days no hassle visa exempt / social visit pass into the bargain

8 hours ago, InMyShadow said:

He already has a hobby and his next mission should he choose to accept it is to measure the size of the frothy head on tap beer 

 

I can steer him to a few places the head on a small draught is 3 fingers, your only getting 70 % ?

More fool you my man

1 minute ago, 55Jay said:

I mentioned 3.  Which one?

 

Suppose I was about to point out Blaze's selective outrage was totally irrelevant in a thread attempting to ascertain how breakfast is the former Empire's national identity; in danger of being usurped by Indian Curry.  ?

Not for breakfast mate

As far as which one, go on hazard a guess I dare you

7 hours ago, 55Jay said:

Yeah!  The list is long and distinguished.  And how about those Germans!  Pol Pot!  Even the haughty English.... seems like just yesterday, geologically speaking, they were hell bent on controlling natural resources and territory, covered with a lie that all the brown skinned people needed civilising.  Speak English, you bloody savages, if you know what's good for you!  ?

It worked rather well for a while dont you think

9 hours ago, cracker1 said:

I don't believe the writer was "whinging"

Seemed a very sensible question that resulted in a very sensible answer !

Now thats what I call a result

I propose that this thread is now closed before we go and spoil it

Can I have a seconder

9 hours ago, MaeJoMTB said:

When MiL walks around the house topless, and she's younger than you.

Lets not get excited as it would depend on how old you are, and how many bin lids she had produced

49 minutes ago, nellyp said:

I agree...the pot is empty. Is it not equally true that i may have been paying in Lieu of my wife if I didn't have children thoug?. A pretty circular argument I suppose. If I have to pay more for my wife ( who has already paid 6 years worth) then so be it. I have no problem paying the contribution necessary as I believe we all should. Though it does make finance more difficult

Well its difficult and thats for sure with the large movement of people over the last few years more pressure

When I look around the world I think the UK welfare state in all its forms is the way to go, for several reasons

Its the finance, and execution of it thats not easy, I am more than pleased that its not in my hands, as will be others

All British citizens are entitled to the benefits of the welfare state from birth, then when they commence employment they start to pay

As for your wife I am not going to chance my arm with a comment, because I am not sure if you mean my ten year waiting period or something else

49 minutes ago, nellyp said:

Does this mean that British citizens who have just started work should also have private medical insurance for 10 years as they have not contributed. Their parents may have paid, but they will have paid for themselves. I agree there must be some payment, but I think your reasoning is slightly off

Not if their parents had done the business, or received the credits 555555 because parents MUST OBVIOUSLY pay in lieu of their children attaining such age and employment status

Simple really

Unless you are advocating child labour, only joking honest

Yes I am on the hard side no doubt with ten years but the pot is empty

1 minute ago, simoh1490 said:

There is no future for you and me, "my man", I have zero interest in your views on any subject nor on anything you have to say on any topic, nor do I have any interest in your billious emoticon clicking efforts, my ignore list is where you rightfully belong, byee!

Thats like striking the jackpot, not very good at stalking are you my man

So long

9 hours ago, simoh1490 said:

Thank you for confirming my suspicion, it wasn't worth the benefit of the doubt after all.

Put your foot in it didn't you, never mind perhaps this lesson will improve your powers of recall in the future my man, where I am concerned anyway 

9 minutes ago, simoh1490 said:

I am pleased to hear this, standing on ones own feet is a rare attribute these days, there are so few of us left.

I only got you up to speed to help you recall the FACTS in the future

I thought it might save you from pulling nonsense out of thin air

Always ready to help the confused in any way I can, apart from the financial angle, I must add 5555555

So remember the FACTS concerning my personal situation are contained in POST 36 

If you find yourself needing to recall them

Have a nice day

2 minutes ago, simoh1490 said:

Are you living in Thailand but still registered in the UK for NHS and UK State Pension purposes, I seem to recall that is the case, which kinda destroys your argument.

I have been receiving one of my pensions for 18+ years, the other not quite as long

You seem to recall do you

I hope you are not suggesting I have been less than honest with the UK authorities my good man

The UK gov and the other agencies that need to be informed where at the appropriate time

To put your mind at rest I have just filled in another life certificate its on its way no rush its got four months to get there

As I used to tell the chaps in blue its in the post 55555555

My argument is based purely on economic realities

I have been standing on my own two feet for what seems a period of time known as, Time Immemorial

The NHS is creaking under the weight of expectation, but thats life I am afraid

6 hours ago, Fish Head Soup said:

With working tax credits etc there is a huge number of working age Brits who have barely paid a penny to the NHS in their lives.

Another reason the UK is such an attractive destination for economic immigrants

Its called THE WELFARE STATE  my good man 55555555

4 hours ago, rockingrobin said:

This fairness argument fails to evaluate that although the British citizen would have paid into the NHS longer than the immigrant, they have also benefitted longer.

The actual ratio of payment to benefited ratio  will be larger for the British citizen because they will have received the benefit of NHS throughout childhood and student life 

Yes thats a real surprise bearing in mind the Brit or their PARENTS could have paid in all their working lives

5 minutes ago, joeyg said:

So I've got a choice?  The Silent but deadly's are traditionally the worst... LOL

Clearing a space or people watching, horses for courses 

1 minute ago, rockingrobin said:

Nobody suggested that NI or tax is hypothecated for the NHS.

To claim that they will not be paying twice is obviously false.

By providing barriers and disincentives to migrants receiving medical treatment is to put the population at risk. A migrant will pursue a course of self-treatment as opposed to seeking medical treatment, due to the financial and other restraints. Thus the dangers of any contagious disease will be detected late and proliferate its spread.

The answer is obvious then is it not

I dont care either way as I am not there

But one way or another somebody has to pay so why not the recipients, now I know that is a bit difficult for some to countenance  

Make them finance their own treatment with insurance, might even be cheaper than what the UK gov intents charging 55555555

As far as paying twice is concerned its nonsense, those who just arrive get one hell of a deal, why do you think there is a queue

Ten years of contributions no less 

15 minutes ago, bobrussell said:

This just confirms that immigration is an easy target for extra charges.

Not sure if anyone has actually worked out the average cost to the NHS of each person in the UK prior to gaining ILR.

Overall I suspect it remains value for money but I for one would make sure my wife/family took full advantage of every facility offered by the NHS.

However much we dislike these increases there is little chance much will change. Too easy a target for revenue generation.

Even after doubling it its the bargain of the century

3 minutes ago, theoldgit said:

@oldlakey, I was actually asking for a justification or even your reasoning, not just what you would adding to what you would do, but never mind.


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My reasons are my justification, everything needs to be paid for

They are not  paying TWICE for anything where do you get the idea that the NI payment or tax is for the NHS only

The NHS is under a fair amount of pressure

Build up a reservoir of money then draw out of the pot, until such time insurance is the way to go as far as the NHS is concerned

Tax you get the use of the same benefits immediately as all other tax payers, security etc etc 

NI contributions will get you a pension if you make enough of them the minimum amount per year is not a tremendous amount of money even now

Everything has to be paid for even the local council services, which you will either pay via rent or direct to the local council

Move to a first world Nanny State and you can reap the benefits but at a price

1 hour ago, theoldgit said:

An interesting slant, how do you actually justify people paying for the NHS service twice?
Are suggesting that people, like a previous posters wife who's been living in the UK for a number of years and seems to be paying UK tax and making NI contributions should also pay for NHS treatment for the rest of her life because she's a foreigner?

I would make them pay Tax and NI for ten years minimum then entitlement for all to full NHS and benefits NOT BEFORE

Compulsory insurance for the interim period, then they will find out what real life and pre existing conditions are all about

The previous Posters problem is in her own hands

5 hours ago, Mansell said:

I can only guess that the qualifications working for the Home Office does not include larger brain use, or even common sense.....which should be renamed un-common sense because very few possess it in this world.

I can only guess by reading the relevant info, that the Home Office staff did what exactly they are paid for

They rejected a flawed visa application

You have made your point about common most adequately

On 12/17/2017 at 7:10 AM, Kwasaki said:

I would think with right approach the situation could settled. 

Yes, if it was me I would just follow the immigration rules to the letter, and of course provide all documents requested

At two grand a throw I would not take it as lightly as these two

I know two couples who have gone through the process, both sets moaned about the cost, but the journey to get the UK passports went smoothly

6 hours ago, Seanbhoy said:

cheers Tanoshi, I'm just putting the final components together for my time machine together as soon as its done il whizz back to 6 months ago and do that.

 

anyone want any lotto results whilst I'm there? 

No thanks, but I will have some for December though

Good luck with the problem