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Only five per cent of Palestinians support a two-state solution; three-quarters want Israel wiped off the map and 75 percent of Jewish Israelis think the country should ignore mounting pressure from the United States to wind down the war in Gaza. And another poll by Gallup recently showed that 65 percent oppose the establishment of an independent Palestinian state.

Firstly identify the attack? Once you've done that I'll then provide you with your contradictions and screenshots to prove them

United Nations Secretary-General Antonio Guterres "the grievances of the Palestinian people cannot justify the appalling attacks by Hamas." Must be one of those extremists you mention

Why is it relevant today. Shall we also post links to why they were doing that? What Hamas did?

It in no way proves your claim. As usual

That does not address Hamas demands what is it about providing links to claims that you find so difficult? Everybody wants negations for the release of hostages and long term solutions. Hamas is making demands not negotiations. https://twitter.com/DavidSaranga/status/1748775380587061739

I am familiar with Hamas demands and I would like you to back up your claim which was: "More than a few Israelis want just that." Hamas want an immediate ceasefire, the withdrawal of all IDF from Gaza and the release of captured Hamas from Oct 7th.

go ahead, provide a link to that claim that more than a few Israelis want to see the same demands as Hamas

Rubbish. Nobody will cave into Hamas demands for a permanent ceasefire first.

You missed this was about ending the immediate war, deaths and destruction. The solutions for long term peace are yet to be finalized by all parties. That does not mean the war cannot stop first.

I like this................. Problem # 1: There are too many deaths in Gaza. Solution: Hamas surrenders, returns the hostages, and just like that, no more deaths. Problem # 2: There’s a humanitarian crisis in Gaza. Solution: Hamas surrenders, returns the hostages, and just like that, no more crisis. Problem # 3: Gaza is being destroyed. Solution: Hamas surrenders, returns the hostages, and just like that, no more destruction. Problem # 4: We need a ceasefire now! Solution: Hamas surrenders, returns the hostages, and just like that, a ceasefire. Picking up on a pattern? That’s right. Every single death is on Hamas and as soon as they surrender and return the hostages, that day, magically, that will be the end of the war. So instead of coming to Israel with complaints and problems, go to Hamas with the solution. The EU Parliament resolution gets it.

Who is this person? Not so difficult now was it? Wanna know a little more? Colonel (Ret.) Miri Eisin https://ict.org.il/ourteam/eisin-miri-col-ret/ I agree with her, but then she has stated fact. She does not believe Hamas. They did indeed break a previous hostage deal. Of course that does not mean Israel will not still try for another as it is right now.

There was a touch of sarcasm you missed there. However he was not far wrong..............the concrete and resources needed for below ground was massive. "This is where Hamas held hostages. IDF soldiers operated in a tunnel located at the heart of a civilian area in Khan Yunis that was used to hold about 20 hostages at different times. The tunnel was about 830 meters long and about 20 meters deep. We cannot and will not rest knowing innocent civilians are being held in compounds like this one. We will not stop operating until we bring the hostages home."

Video below show the full horrors that the hostages faced in the tunnels. Imagine a child being locked in this hell hole. The IDF has located tunnels and cells where some of the hostages were kept in Khan Yunis. They also found drawings made by 5-year-old Emilia Aloni from when she was a hostage. Soldiers of the 98th Division operated in an underground tunnel in Khan Yunis where hostages were being held. The length of the tunnel was about 830 meters and it was about 20 meters deep.

Interesting to see what the bizarre demands are from Hamas terrorists for the release of hostages. The prime minister said that in exchange for releasing the hostages, “Hamas is demanding the end of the war, the exit of our forces from Gaza, releasing all the murderers and rapists of the Nukhba [forces] and leaving Hamas intact.” Netanyahu added that “if we agree to this, our soldiers will have fallen in vain. If we agree to this, we cannot guarantee security for our citizens. We cannot bring the evacuees home safely, and the next October 7 will be just a matter of time. I am not able to agree to such a fatal blow to Israeli security, and therefore I cannot agree to that.” https://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-no-full-palestinian-state-no-surrender-in-exchange-for-gaza-hostages

This is not categorizing where my opinions are, it is false personal insults I guess sharing the Amen Israel corner with right wing denialists has jaundiced your view of the NY Times. that just puts you deeper in the amen corner.

🥱 Perhaps not.

Personally I hope that this option comes through Egypt, Qatar and the United States have been serving as mediators between Israel and Hamas in weeks of intermittent talks to secure the release of more Israeli hostages. https://www.timesofisrael.com/eisenkot-gantz-said-to-urge-hostage-deal-for-long-halt-to-war-pm-gallant-opposed/

Back on topic. Interesting vid on the hostage and IDF subject. Disclaimer if you disagree with it, its ok.

that just puts you deeper in the amen corner. More personal attacks and it will be reported, enough of this off topic nonsense

Got it, so when you believe the report its ok, when I point out a differing contextual and factual account with another credible link its....................... I guess sharing the Amen Israel corner with right wing denialists has jaundiced your view of the NY Times.

Do you believe everything in the NYT is always factual and correct? Pointing out factually that they did not name the commanders, pointing out factually from the Time in Israel that the IDF dispute this makes puts me in the Amen Israel corner with right wing denialists has jaundiced your view of the NY Times Did you miss that I post articles from the NYT often on here myself? Again before you take this further off topic I have no wish to debate this further with a poster who resorts to personal insults to deflect from credible news that disagrees with an article he posted from whatever media outlet.

No comment after that pathetic off topic: I guess sharing the Amen Israel corner with right wing denialists has jaundiced your view of the NY Times.

The Guardian failed to mention that whether Netanyahu is PM or not the polls in Israel show consistently high support for its military offensive in Gaza. It also failed to mention the new EU resolution demanding an immediate and unconditional release of the hostages and dismantling of Hamas before any ceasefire. "Thanks to all reasonable and moderate politicians from left to right who voted for my amendment on the Gaza resolution. All of us want the conflict to end but the release of the Israeli hostages and the desmantling of Hamas are necessary conditions for peace."