sumrit

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I've just checked this out and apparently 'Google chrome' is already acknowledged as my default browser. Any ideas where I go from here?

It works for me. Links (in emails for example) open in Chrome if I set it as default, as I described, in options. If I then go to IE and select tools, internet options, then programs, I can set IE as the default. Then those same email links open with IE.

Many thanks for the replies. I don't print that often but my wife has a small business and has these surges every now and then. I am weighing up if it's worthwhile having a printer at all and just nipping to a copy shop, but it's a real pain sometimes. I wonder if the need to print often is perhaps a case of using the 'proper' ink. I haven't looked at the price of proper ink bottles but wonder if it's worth getting some for the tanks. Is it right that the warranties are invalidated if we use the tanks?

The tanks, and their own cartridges, are detachable so keep some old cartridges then if you have to have the printer repaired under warranty put them in first.

Are there any options for making payment from the UK? or is it send money to wife to get bankers draft or can she pay by card

As 7by7 says she must pay the VFS centre by bankers draft or cashiers cheque but she could probably pay the bank by card to get the bank draft.

If you bride to be is Thai then she must change her name ~ no choice. So she has to do it within 60 days if I recall correctly. Then she has to change her ID card etc. It's surprisingly straight forward so it is no big hassle.

She doesn't have to change her name in Thailand if she doesn't want to any more. She just had to change her ID card and tabien baan to show she was now married but my wife tells me the law has recently changed so she doesn't even have to do that now.

It makes no difference whatsoever whether she applies for a visa in her married or maiden name but the name on the application form MUST be the same as the name on her passport and ID card. The TB certificate can still be in her maiden name if she's done that before you get married, even if she decides to change everything else into her married name.

Again, in England it makes no difference which name she chooses to use but if her passport/visa is in her maiden name she will also need a certified translation of her marriage certificate if she chooses to open a bank account etc in her married name.

If she chooses to change her name in Thailand she must first change her ID card at her local Amphur (takes less than an hour) then go to the passport office to change her passport (done the same day within an hour or two, and I think costs 1000 baht). They used to just endorse the passport with the married name but they now issue a new one.

Well it took my sister in law all last week to get her passport changed. She got it back Friday(4/12/09)! If you pay the premium it can be done faster and just for the usual idiots who say tea money the same things apply to most nationalities at most embassies e.g. U.K, OZ German etc etc.

It took my wife two and a half hours (the length of the queue) at Bang Na about a year ago and she paid about 1000 baht. As far as I was aware that's just the cost of the passport but if that also includes a premium to process it quickly I apologise, I didn't know .

We applied on the 26th november for a fiance settlement visa. Just checked emails yesterday and apparently a decision has already been made and the passport has been ready to collect since the 1st Dec (so much for the 75baht text message service). I wish I had checked my emails sooner as we could have gone to collect it earlier. Instead we have had to wait all weekend and I fly home to the UK tonight so he will have to go and pick up the passport himself.

My concern is how did they make the decision in only 2/3 working days, does this look bad? I handed in everything they asked for and more. The only potential problem may have been that we are planning to live with my parents, but they own a large 5 bedroom house and 2 of the rooms will still be unoccupied even when we move in, and we have lived here before when he visited twice before.

Aaarrggghh the stress and the waiting. He will be at the VAC office collecting his passport as I touch down at Gatwick on monday.

THas anyone else received a decision in such a short time, be it a positive or negative one?

Good luck to all in the same position.

Before this years madness most straight forward settlement visa applications were processed within a week and, from memory, it had been that quick for at least two/three years. Two friends I helped when they're wives applied nearly three years ago both had they're visas in three days.

When my wife had her first visit visa around four years ago (when the VFS centre first opened) we put the application in on Monday morning then flew up to Chiang Mai the next day, on Tuesday. As we got off the plane the ECO phoned me to query something, then said 'that's fine then, you can collect the passport tomorrow (Wednesday)'. Now that WAS good service . And for her her last visit visa nineteen months ago (I know it was a family problem and we had to fly quickly) we put the application in at one o'clock on the Monday lunchtime and somebody from the VFS centre actually phoned me at twelve the next day to tell me the visa was ready for collection and that she was phoning to give me enough time to collect it that afternoon. That was EXCELLENT service.

I've probably been one of their biggest, and most frustrated critics over the last few months but let's hope this means they're now getting back to the sort of times we used to see.

Good luck.

I just think that if they have the natural ability then that is 98% of making it as a pro with the other 2% from being coached.

I doubt very much if in Brazil they have the facilities and coaches that we have in the UK and look at the quality they bring through.

A few things to comment on.

I think all county FA's run coaching courses. I know that when my son went (fairly recently) one thing he was told was that boys had developed all their 'natural ability' by the time they were about ten/eleven years old. By the clubs taking boys at a younger age they should be able to improve the development of their natural ability but after that they are only able to coach that ability they already have.

Countries that have more naturally gifted players such as Brazil tend to be the same ones where boys have a ball at their feet continuously, without other distractions, from a very young age. Boys in the UK have so many other distractions such as TV, computers, electronic games, etc that they don't have time to just kick a ball about.

I couldn't agree more that nobody can be certain of a ten year old being good enough to be a professional footballer but the clubs will say that they can make them better players if they take them at a younger age. These academies are still constantly looking at, and taking older boys as well.

Personally, I think one of the problems with the academies is that they are limiting themselves to the number of boys they have at any one time so they are assessing and accepting/rejecting boys in very short time. That's why I think clubs should be allowed to run regional academies all over the country. That way they would be able to take more boys over a longer period of time and watch them react and develop in their own time to the superior coaching they would be getting.

Another problem I think is that the schools FA still have the final say in what the boys can/can't do. School football is no longer the 'best'. When I was at school we only had school football and the professional clubs tended not to even look at boys until they were about 14-15 years old. By the time my son started playing, Junior Sunday League football was established and many league clubs had started running their own 'centre of excellence' starting when boys were about 11 years old. My son went to one when he was 12years old and I think that the football he was playing by the time he was 14 when he signed schoolboy forms was far superior to the football played when I was the same age. As I said in an earlier post my grandson has been training for about three years now and again the football he's playing is much better at 10-11 years old than his father played.

So I've no doubt these academies are improving the standard of football being played they seem to be run as a production line in the same way as they do for more adult players and don't have enough consideration to the feelings of these (sometimes very) young boys.

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I've had two Epson printers (the type that print directly onto discs) fitted with external ink bottles and have been happy with both of them.

I know that people have had issues in the past over colours being slightly different when refilling with different inks but last time I bought inks was over two years ago. I bought large bottles of inks and, yes, I did have to adjust the colour levels slightly to get the same colour prints as the original Epson cartridges gave but after that I just refill when needed and as it's the same ink there's no need for any more adjustments. If it takes one adjustment every 2-3 years when I have to buy new replacement inks I can put up with that (the printer'll probably wear out first ).

I think people who complain about varying print colours are the ones who either have their cartridges refilled (where different inks are used each time) or use cheap replacement cartridges (that again have different inks with each new cartridge).

Personally I've never had a problem with the cartridges getting blocked but I know of one friend who has. Maybe I have just been lucky with the quality of ink I bought, I don't know, maybe my mate was just unlucky.

I'll stand with you Sumrit on what your wife has reported. My wife did changed her last name to mind but kept the Miss on her ID card. I thought it was unusual and odd but she said the new law gives women more power to do what she pleases in cases of marriage and divorce. The District office said she could use Miss or Mrs or Ms.

I do have some information about the changing of the last name on the ID card. There may be guild lines to do so within some time period but nobody is going to go to jail over this.

UNDER THE OLD LAW, my experience is that if a Thai woman didn't change to her husband's last name on her ID card then she couldn't get a divorce until she did so.

It's like saying you couldn't get a divorce unless you showed you are married. (The marriage registration paper should have been enough evidence).

UNDER THE OLD LAW, a Thai woman couldn't get a divorce if she was already pregnant. She would have to wait until after the baby was delivered.

According to my wife all these things have changed in favor of the woman's rights.

Agree with you there My ex wife who's also Thai never changed her ID card (she said it didn't matter because we lived in England) and when we went to get divorced in Thailand she had to change her ID card at her local Amphur into her married name first then change it back again as soon as we were divorced in the same office about an hour later.

A Thai woman getting divorced can't remarry (in Thailand) for about 300 days (not sure of the exact length of time) to make sure she isn't pregnant by her ex husband.

Hi sumrit,yes the law did change last july 2008,but i think you have got it the wrong way around,now if a thai lady marries she has to change

from miss to mrs but not take the mans new surname if she wishes,now if this couple divorced one week later under the old law the thai lady

could not change back from mrs to miss,so in theory if that said thai lady wished to stay singlefor the rest of her life it would have stuck with her regardless ,now thats were the new law has come into force,it allows the divorced lady to change back from mrs

to miss,so then if a thai lady marries she would then have to by law change at least her ID card and her tabien baan to mrs,but not change her surname if she wishes.

now i only no this because the sister in law took full advantage of this law change,and was banging on the aumpers door the very next day it was allowed to do so .

My wife agrees with what you say about being able to return to to nang sow (miss) after a divorce but still insists that part of that law was also being able to stay miss and not having to use mrs after getting married if she wanted to.

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A laptop is surely a good choice since it will ease the hardware setup considerably. You will need a power source (inverter or DC-DC converter) and a place to mount the laptop. Many people try to fabric a small TFT touchscreens into their dashboard, but this requires time, dedication and some talent (and money).

There are several CarPC software products available (free and non-free) that usually rely on a touchscreen for input - since you don't really have time to use mouse and keyboard while driving.

A remote control would maybe work, too, or you just rely on your co-driver to control the PC.

If you get a Pentium M at 1.6Ghz or similar this would be up to the task. I've seen those at Panthip (used) for around 7000 THB (starting price). Not that I would recommend to buy there, and this is Bangkok anyway.

Or consider a netbook which is a lot easier to fit (new from 12.000 THB) which are comparable in performance. There are also touchscreen kits available on ebay for those.

One more thing about screens: DVD players usually have TV displays that are not really comparable to high resolution TFT screens used for PCs, but since their main purpose is to watch movies this doesn't matter. (Just in case you think about connecting one of those screens to the laptop.) Reflection and daylight readability is also a big topic with carPCs.

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You can also have video stored on the laptop to watch, or use a USB memory stick or even a USB driven external hard drive with video stored on them, instead of carrying discs to watch. When we go to the village I always take my laptop and a hard drive full of video to watch while we're there. I've also sat in the car and watched it for an hour or so while the wifes shopping.

She may keep her current name id card or change it to your surname, its not compulsory to do this.

She is required to get a new ID card reflecting her change of marital status. No name change is necessary.

My wife insists not any more. She says the law was changed last year (she thinks around Feb/March 2008) and you can now choose whether to keep nang sow (miss) or change to nang (mrs).

When we got married last year my wife wanted to change and use her married name and I know she was given the choice on both using her married name AND changing her marital status because I was with her at the time.

If you bride to be is Thai then she must change her name ~ no choice. So she has to do it within 60 days if I recall correctly. Then she has to change her ID card etc. It's surprisingly straight forward so it is no big hassle.

She doesn't have to change her name in Thailand if she doesn't want to any more. She just had to change her ID card and tabien baan to show she was now married but my wife tells me the law has recently changed so she doesn't even have to do that now.

It makes no difference whatsoever whether she applies for a visa in her married or maiden name but the name on the application form MUST be the same as the name on her passport and ID card. The TB certificate can still be in her maiden name if she's done that before you get married, even if she decides to change everything else into her married name.

Again, in England it makes no difference which name she chooses to use but if her passport/visa is in her maiden name she will also need a certified translation of her marriage certificate if she chooses to open a bank account etc in her married name.

If she chooses to change her name in Thailand she must first change her ID card at her local Amphur (takes less than an hour) then go to the passport office to change her passport (done the same day within an hour or two, and I think costs 1000 baht). They used to just endorse the passport with the married name but they now issue a new one.

Because they are taking boys from a much younger age those lucky enough to get to an academy are benefiting from professional coaching from as young as six/seven years old and that is certainly making them much better players at a much younger age, but I've also seen some of these very young boys devastated when they've been rejected by a club after just a few weeks trial. Sometimes by more than just one club. The clubs are ruthless and will start by telling the parents their son could be a world beater with the promise of contracts after a trial period but for most it's just rejection a few short weeks later, although the parents seem to find it hard to accept and when the next scout comes looking push them onto the next set of trials without understanding how much the pressure to succeed affects the boys. It's heartbreaking sometimes to see these boys in tears. I know of one ten year old boy who, after trials, has been rejected by three premier league clubs this year. At ten years old he ended up thinking he was useless at football.

If the clubs can produce an average of one to two players per year from these academies they will have done exceptionally well, some years they don't have any that make the grade. If you count the twenty/twenty-five boys they have at each age group plus all the ones that have been rejected over the years from seven to sixteen year olds that's a very large failure rate even if one/two 'make it'.

Having said that, for the ones that are talented enough, I think coaching has got to start as early as possible and the club academies, with their professional coaches and all their experience is the best place for that to happen. Schools football just doesn’t have the facilities or the coaching experience to help these boys progress to be able to compete at the very top.

I don't see a problem with the 60/90 minute travelling time limit. They’re sometimes training two/three times a week and their school work and home life has still got to be a priority. If the big clubs want to attract people from all over the country they should be looking to set up academies in other parts of the country as well as the town/city they’re from. My ten year old grandson for example, who lives over one hour from Birmingham, has been going to a local training center set up by Aston Villa for over three years now. If clubs were able to set centers like this up as regional academies in various parts of the country, possibly attached to a local semi professional club who play in a local regional league, they would be able to get boys from all over the country. They would be helping the local club with facilities at the same time and, as most of the rejected boys end up playing for these semi pro clubs, there would be a ready made outlet for them.

I’m sure the clubs would have more chance of a rule change to allow something like this to be set up than they would getting the traveling restrictions lifted.

Oh, and just to show how ruthless the selection process is, even at the regional training center, my grandson is the only boy left from the ones who were there when he started three years ago as a seven year old, and many more have come and gone within that time as well. They’re continually being assessed and replaced.

Your wife will need to hand the TB certificate in to the VFS centre along with her visa application and other supporting documentation so she needs to get it first.

TB tests can only be carried out at the

International Organisation for Migration (IOM)

Kasemkij Building

8th Floor, 120 Silom Road

Bangrak, Bangkok 10500

See http://www.ukvac-th.com/tb.aspx for more information.

If your wife needs to do a sputum test as well as having the xray she will be required to stay in Bangkok for about five days while this is carried out.

The certificates are valid for six months.

Where are you travelling from within Thailand?

My previous post missed most of my reply out somehow so I've repeated it here.

Where are you travelling from within Thailand?

I always find it easier to use a visa run company when going from Pattaya. They usually charge 2000 baht for everything. For that they pick me up, take me to the Cambodian border and supply me with dinner at the border hotel while they pay for the Cambodian visa and do all the paperwork for me, then take me back home.

It would cost you 1000 baht for a Cambodian visa at the border whichever crossing you choose to use anyway plus possible tea money to the Cambodian border guards so they don't put you at the back of the queue and keep you there for hours. When you add the cost of travel to and back from the border and all the hassle of doing it yourself you're probably only saving 2-300 baht anyway and for me it's worth that for the peace of mind.

Where are you travelling from within Thailand?

Your wife will get a two year three month visa in her passport. She will be able to apply for ILR after two years from the date of her arrival in the UK and during that two year period she must also pass either the life in the UK test or an Esol course at college to qualify. If, after the two year period she can't pass either of these tests she must apply for FLR which will give her more time and enable her to stay in the UK. She can apply for British Citizenship after being in the UK for three years, assuming she has ILR and you're still together of course.

She can work in the UK from the day she arrives if she wants to and her employer should give her a temporary NI number until she gets her own. It took about three months for my wife's NI number to come through.

As for health care she will be entitled to the same 'free' NHS care as any British Citizen is, also from the day she arrives in the UK. On the subject of health care if a British Citizen is returning to the UK after living abroad (and the UK Government know where he's been living) he's not entitled to free NHS care for six months (whether he's paid UK taxes while abroad or not) but his wife who's possibly never even set foot in the UK before is entitled from the moment she arrives.

I know the Embassy never used to ask for a Kor Por 14, it appears to be something they've added fairly recently.

With respect, we had to provide a custody document with my step-daughter's application, and this was in 2000.

Not sure if it was a Kor Por 14, as it was issued by a court not an ampur due to my wife's ex's intransigence.

As I understand it people have always had to show sole custody when applying for visas to take their children to the UK. If they were legally married to the childs father/mother then they would have to show the custody arrangement at the time of the divorce or subsequent court documents if they apply. That isn't a Kor Por 14. In this instant the same court papers are required for the child's passport.

If the parents weren't legally married then the mother has sole custody but no documentary proof so in order to get a passport for the child she has to get a Kor Por 14 from her local Amphur and present it to the Thai passport department with the application form.

As the Kor Por 14 is effectively a history of the child's life, where and with whom they lived etc, it appears that the British Embassy are now asking for it as part of the proof of 'day to day' responsibility, although I've not heard of them actually requesting it before this year.

I'm certainly no expert and I only add comments in these threads from my own experiences, but over the last fifteen years I've been married in Thailand twice, divorced once and, apart from my own family, I've probably helped 20-30 people apply for various visas to the UK (all successful I might add ) and I've seen the criteria gradually change and become more strict. But apart from my friends children this year the last time I helped anybody bring and child to the UK was five years ago and the British Embassy certainly didn't ask for a Kor Por 14 then.

7by7 and Scouse thanks for your comments.

UPDATE

I have managed to get some more info from the lawyer. Basically when you divorce you not only get a divorce certificate but there is also an additional paper that decides custody. My wife wasn't given this when she divorced but it was agreed that her and her ex-husband would have joint custody. This explains why she couldn't change her son's name last year as the Amphur has her and her ex-husband down as joint custody, therefore would require consent of both.

I have been told that if the divorce gave sole custody then the amphur can provide the paper the UK Visa people require thus negating the need to go to court, which appears to have been the case with some posters on Thai Visa (who haven't had to go to court). However, as had been said on here and some other threads, to change a custody as per the divorce does require a trip to the court. Therefore, we will proceed with this, together with the full consent of her ex-husband.

Sumrit - I believe from what you have mentioned you will have to go down this route too if your situation is the same as ours.

Anyhow I hope this clarifies for all. We have been told by the solicitor what papers we require and it shouldn't cost more than 10k Baht as straight-forward case with both parties consenting.

I will provide update of how long this process takes so it can help others in the future.

ALL - keep up the good work ;-)

Thanks

Stam

Stam, I probably haven't made my position clear in my posts but I don't have any problem, my wife and stepdaughter are already in the UK now. The comments I have made are based purely on my experiences.

I divorced my first Thai wife at an Amphur about three years ago so my comments about having to go to court to change things agreed at an Amphur divorce were based on what an official at the Amphur told me at that divorce. My comments on the Kor Por 14 were made from experiences gained from my present wife and stepdaughter's visa applications (I had been living in Thailand with them for several years).

While I agree with scouse that the Kor Por 14 document is a Thai document not officially recognized by the UK (it's similar to us going to a solicitor in the UK to make a sworn declaration but Thais also have to have two credible witnesses making a similar declaration) it's needed by a Thai lady who has sole custody of a child (because they were not officially married to the childs father) to enable them to obtain a passport for that child. But also when we presented my stepdaughters visa application in March this year we were specifically asked to add the Kor Por 14 as part of proof of our day to day responsibility of her. It appears that it is something the Visa section are currently asking for because at the same time that we applied we had three friends also applying for visas for their wives and children. One was married and divorced previously and she had to go to court to get sole custody documents to show the Embassy while the other two were in a similar position to my wife and both were asked to supply a Kor Por 14 document.

I know the Embassy never used to ask for a Kor Por 14, it appears to be something they've added fairly recently.

I'm going be in the same position as regards confirming sole custody for my wife's two children in Thailand aged 15 and 9 year old.The ex husband has agreed after a long struggle to let them go,even though he was never around for them at any point in there upbringing.His family have looked after the children since my wife left Thailand to live in the UK three years ago.

I hope a court appearance isn't necessary and as mentioned above a form from the amphur should suffice should it not?

Was your wife legally married to the children's father (registered at the Amphur)?

If she was what agreement was made regarding the children when they got divorced? If they weren't legally married at the Amphur your wife will have sole custody but she will still have to prove sole responsibility for the day to day upbringing/decision making of the children. As well as having any of the usual documents your wife can go to the Amphur, along with two credible witnesses, and make a 'Kor Bor14' statement. In simple terms this is sworn statement covering the history of the children's lives, where and with whom they have lived and who has been responsible for their day to day care. For both ourselves and other people I know who've recently taken their children to live in the UK the British Embassy have actually asked for this document (and it must be an original, they won't accept a copy).

Chopperbopper,

You are entitled to your view and to express same here (as long as you stay within the forum rules), but please get your facts right first.

Thai law, I believe, says that if both parents are in agreement then custody can all be sorted out at the ampur, without the need to go to court. For some reason Stament is having difficulty with this.

If you read the whole topic you will see that the child's father is in full agreement with the arrangement and with the child travelling with his mother to the UK.

If you read the whole topic you will see that Stament never made the comment you attribute to him. Another apology due, I think.

Everyone's circumstances are different. For some families the best option is to live in Thailand, for others it is to live in the UK and some even find dividing their time between both countries to be best.

The UK immigration rules and procedures have safeguards in place to try and ensure that children are not taken from one parent by the other and transported halfway across the world against their will or best interests; hence the need to show not only sole custody but sole responsibility as well.

7by7 I agree with what you say regarding Choppperbopper's comments but just one point about things being sorted out at the Amphur.

When I got divorced at an Amphur about three years ago we basically had to agree on three points, those being the future and custody of any children, finance within Thailand (aquired during the marriage) and property within Thailand, again aquired during the marriage. I was told that, once signed by both of us, the divorce statement was legally binding on both parties and could only be changed by going to court. Regrettably from this I believe that stament's wife and ex husband will have to go to court to change the joint custody they now have (I assume that joint custody was agreed at the time of their divorce). On the plus side I believe they can arrange a court hearing quickly and, as the ex husband is in full agreement, it shouldn't delay their plans too much.

The Kor Bor 14 document you asked about in another thread is something the British Embassy seem keen on seeing at the moment for child visa applications but, I believe, it's actually used for confirming responsibility not sole custody. We needed it to get a passport for my stepdaughter, and the Embassy also asked for it as part of the proof of 'day to day responsibility' for her. My wife hadn't legally married her daughter's father so she already automatically had sole custody of her daughter and this was included in the Kor Bor 14 statements. The British Embassy didn't ask us for any further proof of custody.

Having been through a divorce at an Amphur in Thailand previously (didn't have any children) I know that custody of children is part of the process, along with finance and property, and I was told that whatever was agreed and signed at the Amphur could only be changed in a court, whether it be about children, finance or property.

Do the UK immigration rules insist on sole custody? I know it's a different country but my wife's cousin married an Australian and I think she just needed to get permission from her daughters father to take her to Australia. She didn't have to change any custody agreements made when they got divorced.

Firstly your wife won't be able to travel on a tourist visa then change it to a settlement visa in the UK. All settlement visas must be applied for outside the UK, so your wife would have to return to Thailand again to apply for one. Also one of the criteria for issuing a tourist visa is a 'reason to return to Thailand' and if you and your children are returning to the UK to live your wife would be unlikely to be able to convince the ECO that she would be returning to Thailand on her own, so her application would probably fail on this point anyway. He would probably say that she is unlikely to want to return to Thailand for a settlement visa, and as you intend living in the UK that's what she should have applied for.

Like you I spent several years in Thailand before returning to the UK with my wife and daughter in July this year.

For your wife to get a settlement visa, to simplify things, you would basically have to show that;

You have a genuine relationship, and as your wife has already had two tourist visas they have already accepted this, although you should resubmit the documentary proof as well. So that shouldn't be a problem.

That you have sufficient funds to support your wife without her having recourse to public funds. If you already have a SECURE job offer, with a start date (and with a large enough salary of course ) and you can provide documentary proof from your prospective employer that should be acceptable to the ECO.

That you have adequate accommodation for yourself and your family on your arrival in the UK. This is the point that, for those of us that have been living abroad, might seem harder to satisfy the ECO, but it DOESN'T mean you must already own or even be renting a home of your own. It means exactly what is says, adequate accommodation. For myself my son lives in a three bedroomed house on his own so we moved in with him for to short term until we were settled and found our own house. We had to provide a letter from him inviting us to stay with him for as long as we needed to and documentary evidence that it was his house and that it was large enough to accommodate us (basically that we had separate bedrooms for ourselves and our daughter). So if you have somewhere similar to this to stay (you'd have to supply accommodation details even for a tourist visa anyway) it should be enough to satisfy the ECO on this point as well.

Your wife's previous refusal shouldn't have any bearing on a settlement application, The ECO will only be interested in whether she meets the criteria for the visa she is currently applying for, and as I've already said it would probably be more difficult for her to get a tourist visa than it would a settlement visa.

And the good news is that the current waiting time for settlement visas appears to be down to as little as two weeks now so you still have enough of time for your wife to apply so you can all travel together in January.

Good Luck.

the property i a ground floor flat consiting of bath room kitchen large liveing room and 1 large bed room and backyard i intend my wife and child 3 years old to live there dose any one know if this porperty is sutable we have lived in it allready for 5 months

It seems from what you've said that the ECO is not sure that your landlord will allow children to live at the flat. You would need to supply written confirmation from the landlord and send it to the ECO.

I can't be certain but I think you'll find that to satisfy the accommodation requirements you'll need a separate bedroom for your child anyway.