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Any thoughts on transport from Bangkok Suvarnabhumi AP to registered hotel?  Could it be possible to go to the ASQ hotel in own car parked at the AP?  Following the RT-PCR test, that is.  That would be a safer and a much easier process.  Thanks

5 hours ago, BritTim said:

You probably had a long term extension of stay (not a visa which is unaffected by leaving Thailand). It is, indeed, usually worthwhile to get a re-entry permit to protect the permission to stay. The OP just has a short term permission to stay on a tourist entry. Even a visa exempt entry would make more sense than trying to protect the existing permission to stay.

Yes, it was a retirement visa that I had and it was cancelled.  Bummer.  It turned out to be a very costly mistake.

 

Just got the below, further to above... from: https://www.thaiembassy.com/travel-to-thailand/how-to-travel-to-thailand-in-2021

Step 5 – Obtain COVID-19 test and prepare the documents for your flight

Once you have received your COE, you have to prepare the following documents for your trip to Thailand. You should present these documents to your airline before departure:

• Certificate of Entry (COE)
• Valid visa in your passport
• Declaration Form
• Medical Certificate with a laboratory result indicating that COVID -19 is not detected. The COVID test must be by the RT-PCR method, taken and conducted within 72 hours before departure. Some airlines do not accept home kit tests so please check specific requirements with the airlines you are traveling with.                                  So which is it?  (sorry for the bold typeface, just copied and pasted)

15 10 2021,  Below it the note from Thai air travel requirements.  I am going to France next week and back again on the 24th, this month.  I have read that one must arrive at the AP with the results of a covid test in hand.  I will be going to a quarantine hotel on my return and will be tested at the AP (?) before the shuttle takes me to the hotel.  I know it says London embassy, below, but it states no test is req'd for entry generally.

 

'Please note that although a Covid-19 test is currently not required, the Royal Thai Embassy in London recommends that passengers test for COVID-19 before traveling to reduce the risk of exposure or transmission during travel, as well as serving as a preventive measure against the introduction of COVID-19 from foreign countries into Thailand.'  (https://www.thaiairways.com/en_GB/plan/travel_information/travel_requirements.page)

 

Anybody have any 'real' information?  If it is req'd, what kind of test is acceptable please?  I am going to find it very difficult to get a quick test result for a Sunday morning flight out of Lyon.

 

HAPPY DAYS!  Thailand is welcoming visitors with open arms!  If any of those idiots in charge think a tourist would willingly go through what I have done getting a COE, insurance, hotel and all the other <deleted> that is req'd to get in to this country they need their heads examined.

 

Comments most welcome, please&thankyou

 

 

 

2 hours ago, Kwasaki said:

Sounds like a bad dealer buying a completely flooded out car cheap and passing problems on to an owner. 

Is he sure the warranty does cover bodywork problems.

 

Honda own batteries are guaranteed for 1 year and had experience of them failing 1 year and 1 week. ????

Outdoor replacement.

 

As for tyres main dealers are hoping they are always talking to mugs who will listen to them.

The car is definitely new and there is not evidence of a refurbished car that had just been damaged and cleaned up. As Transam noted the car body is dipped and there may be other rust issues covered up by other body parts, trim etc..

25 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

There no requirement for a permit to leave.

You only need a re-entry permit to keep the remainder of the permit to stay it is issued for valid when your use it to enter the country

Yes but, if you leave w/o a re entry document they stamp your visa 'used' as in cancelled.  Then have to apply for new one.  Learned the hard way.

For a start go to your immigration office and get a permit to leave and come back, otherwise your existing visa will be cancelled, if it is anything like a retirement visa.  The whole issue of COE and quarantine, insurance etc. changes hourly and nobody seems to know what is happening and/or will be happening.  look on 'coethailand.mfa.go.th' for current instructions.  These will change 01 11 2021.  The Thai produced Astra Zeneca is accepted in France and perhaps all of the EU.  Good Luck, 

15 10 2021

 

My friend bought a new honda from the main dealer in Buriram.  After the first month he noticed a tiny orange spot under the rear window rubber seal.  He washed it and forgot it.  It became a typical rust spot, under the rubber-no scratches etc.- weeping an orange drip line down the back door.  He showed it to the dealer who said it was not part of warrantee and he must claim on his insurance.  The car is only a few months old.

 

I wrote earlier about his battery experience.  He was told his battery was faulty and had to be replaced.  He was unhappy but paid.  Sorry, I forget your name, but you replied to a problem I had with my Toyota CH-R wiring and at the same time said batteries were not covered by the car warrantee.  (My problem was mice)

 

Same friend just took his car for a service last week (5or6000 km only) and sat back to back with a Thai lady customer in reception.  The service guy came out and spoke to her and my friend heard 'battery' whereupon the lady jumped up and said NO, NO! I do not have any problems with my battery.  My friends GF translated the exchange and it was about the need to change the battery and how the garage would not help her if she was broken down by the side of the road.  The lady basically told this guy to FO (politely) and that was that.

 

Later, same day, his car was ready, oil change etc. and the service mngr said he had changed the tires front to back for 'winter'.  (He had already said the rust problem was a matter for his car insurance)  He then started on about how the tires were looking worn and he should consider replacing them as they may be dangerous.  That was too much and my friend left (containing his anger).  

 

This does not sound like an honest garage.  First question is about paint warrantee and second is how to report them to Honda if they are a dishonest service centre?    (There was also some other 'funny stuff' about paying 1/2 for the next service and it would be free , or something but I don't remember all the details)  Any comments/solutions please?  Thank you.

21 hours ago, Taxi said:

Leaving your car at the airport multi story is very convenient and not expensive by world standards. 

 

Did you consider contacting the hotel and see if you can leave it there?  That way as soon as your out of Q you can just jump in your car.  

Great idea.  Have done this b4 but the pressure of coordinating air tickets, insurance, hotel, reentry visa, vaccinations, int'l proof of same not to mention the legal issues that are my reason for going to France and the covid compliant entry to that country have left me a quivering mass of exposed nerve endings.  Thanks for the great reminder.  Take care.  

9 minutes ago, Doctor Tom said:

Put it in the covered multi story, easy and cheap. Last time for me, 200 Baht per day 

Thanks, will do that, 

8 minutes ago, Doctor Tom said:

 

8 minutes ago, Doctor Tom said:

 

 

Thanks.  Yes, tried that.  Bob told me b4.  They would not issue the orange vaccination visa thing because my first 2 shots were in Ban Mai Chaiyapot and the 3rd in the Buriram Govt hospital.  I had to go to the Regional Health Authority in town because they have records of all vaccinations in the province.  It was they who said they were blocked from accessing the edit function.  Sometimes the local people are switched on and sometimes not, just like everywhere.  

Thanks,  I was coming around to that way of thinking myself.  I spent hours searching for my car there last time and thought it had been stolen.  I had taken a photo of it beside the column with an orange circle painted on it with 'B1' (or something) written in the middle.  I finally figured out that its sister building next door has exactly the same location numbers and colours.  A friend suggested marking the location on google map but have never tried it.  Thanks again.

13 10 2021

 

First, thank you very much for comments and useful information helping me to get to France and back home here in Thailand.

 

I have now had 1 Sinovac and 2 Astra Zenica vaccinations and have the little orange certificate of vaccination 'passport'.  I also have the Mor Chana app on my phone.  Here is the rub.  My Thai pink card number is on it but not my UK passport number.  My first 2 vaccinations were in our small village and the 3rd (AZ) was in Buriram Govt hospital.  They have tried to add my passport number at the Buriram hospital and at the Regional Health Authority, who issued the orange book.  They said they are blocked and cannot add it.  

 

On the COE, thanks for helping about how long to get it and also for pointing out that each document had to be 'uploaded' following drag and drop.  That took some hours of attempting to register and having it refused and it was re reading comments that a kind person had noted that each item had to be 'uploaded'.  I know it was written on the application but it didn't ring a bell until it was pointed out.  Thanks.

 

Shortly after I booked my quarantine hotel in BKK (25-10 to 01-11) there was the wide spread announcement that all quarantine was ending on the 1st Nov..  I have a flexible return ticket so I could just stay on in France for the week but the 21,000+THB hotel is non refundable.  

 

So, the question is, how to add my passport number to Mor Channa app please?  I will try at my local village hospital but they have, so far, said that most everything to do with vaccination management had to be done at the big govt hospital in Buriram (who have said they cannot).

 

For insurance I bought 1 year covid cover for 15,000 baht from 'Tune Protect'.  It starts immediately but I had put my arrival date to Thailand as the 25th so it kicks in then.  On their site it says there is a 2 week delay.  Apparently there is not.

 

I cannot understand how those 'in charge' think that the COE will not deter tourists coming to Thailand.  I would have thought that it is more likely to catch covid here than to bring it in as a fully vaccinated traveler.  If they put some effort into controlling the spread of infection in the south and feeding people who are suffering there it would be time well spent. 

 

Thank you again for your help.

 

 

I need to go to France for 1 week and quarantine for 1.  I go on the 18th oct.  I have googled the title and get little actual information.  The parking location map on one site is simply a map with temples and other things marked on it.  Not a 'P' anywhere.  Any comments including just leaving it at the AP multi story carpark please?  Thanks.  I think the hotel picks me up and drops me off from and to the AP. 

On 10/8/2021 at 12:28 PM, internationalism said:

this one from 1500b.

not age related.

covers up to 99 yo for the same rate

https://www.tipinsure.com/CovidRegional/step_1

 

the one for 15k per year is a flat rate for all countries and age

 

cannot find 15K THB / year from that link.  Comes to 42,000 THB for ret visa persons

14 minutes ago, sandyf said:

I was in the UK when I applied for COE. 

I think your assumption is right, my COE was initially rejected by the London Embassy.

I am in Thailand.  Making a short trip to France and back again.  I live here.

PS, The delay is all of this was because I was told no more AZ and only just managed to recently get 2nd AZ shot.

I have been hoping for a relaxation of CoE rules but they don't seem to be coming.  Bite the bullet and am applying for a COE.  I may have made a big mistake.  On a page that I just found it states that I must apply 15 working days before I need a CoE.  Is that fixed?  Can I get one in 10 days applying from Thailand? 

 

For insurance I know Unbonjoe provided some names but cannot find them.  I have been led to 2 insurance sites sites during my flight booking and Thai CoE info. I need about 90 days. 

 

TUNE Ins (https://www.tuneprotect.co.th/en/product/coronavirus-covid-19-insurance) offers 1 yr for 15,000 THB and AXA offers 90 days for 7630 THB.  AXA is 28,500 THB for a year.  For 15k I am inclined to be insured for a year, why not? Any comments re the TUNE company?  Any other  comments please? 

 

(BTW.  Booking flights on skyscanner I can get a flexible economy return ticket BKK to Lyon, France for about 550 Euros with Lufthansa.)  

 

I see that because I have a re entry visa (valid retirement visa) I apply to   https://coethailand.mfa.go.th

Is this correct?

 

It also states that reservations from bookings.com are not accepted.  Is that true?  Any suggestions for alternate, acceptable sites?  I will quarantine in BKK for 7 days b4 coming back home.

 

This is all a bit rushed as I have just learned that I cannot change my appointment date in France and so am making travel plans etc. in a bit of a  panic.

 

Thanks for any comments.

 

 

 

Thai immigration authorities know everything about me and 10's of thousands of other legally registered long term visa holders.  Others who hold such visas know exactly what I am referring to.  When the TM30(?) was in effect a friend went to BKK to a conference on behalf of the company he worked for.  He stayed in a hotel for 2 nights.  He came home went to bed and got up and went to work the following morning.  He got a panic call from his wife that afternoon from his wife.  The police were at his door in his small village (several cars) demanding his whereabouts and threatening his arrest if he did not go to the closest immigration office and report immediately.  This is the most extreme example I know of but, believe me, when we went out of province for a short trip last year we took a hotel in Buriram (90km from home) to be able to report the first thing the following morning.  This friend 'Bob' is a long time Thai resident, work permit, married (Thai), kids, house etc..  If they can create and enforce the nonsense that was the TM30 and then quickly cancel it, I find it hard to believe that they are short on imagination. 

 

There could easily be a simple form to fill in with name, address, passport# and visa details for residents returning home (there already is the TM6).  With all the supporting vaccination & test results too, of course.  Promising to visit the local hospital for tests and submitting results via the mor chana app is something that the police are equipped to enforce its compliance. Or, as with the TM30, we could make that trip and submit the results to the immigration office. 

 

All this 'sandbox' effort is to get tourists back into expensive resorts owned by influential individuals and companies.  We read the the Govt is being pressured by this 'Hotel Association' or that 'Tourism group' or 'The Confederation of Airline Companies' etc. and officials being told to loosen up the rules regarding visitors to 'sandbox' facilities.  The towns and villages in these areas are (it seems) still shut down and the many people are relying on food handouts to eat.

 

Covid is being allowed to spread in Thailand by ineffective Govt policies.  It is not the vaccinated tourists and Thai residents arriving from countries safer than Thailand who are bringing the pandemic here in greater numbers.  

 

Hard to get a fix on numbers but I googled the number of expats in Thailand and a 2018 study puts the number at well over 300,000 foreign nationals. Take that number, why not? If we all spend 1M THB annually (give or take) it comes to 300 billion THB total spent each and every year.  Much of this is spent in small towns and villages benefitting the local economy, not the billionaire hotel owners in the south.  That may be the real problem in creating a simplified entry system for registered residents, we don't further enrich the rich.

raptoria:  Sorry, I don't know anything about the directions that I posted.  It is a set of directions kindly sent to me by a person who has gone through the process several times.  I am hoping the whole thing will be binned by the time I need to come back in November.  

Thanks, so far....  There are new tweaks announced daily on the Thaiger YT news program.  Latest is 'apply for and get visa on arrival'.  With a COE and a few thousand baht.  I don't see the COE document as being the only way to responsibly manage who is arriving in the country.  Esp. legal residents.  Assuming that passports and visas are genuine that goes a long way to determining who the traveler is.  So immigration already know everything there is to know about us.  And that we are going home to our registered address.  Demanding a recent negative covid test result, along with proof of vaccination goes a long way to establishing the health of that resident traveler.  How many of the thousands who arrived in Phuket tested positive during their quarantine period?  Requiring residents to be tested at our local hospital within a week and report the results is not an unreasonable solution.   As opposed to effectively imprisoning us for a week or 2 while testing us at an extortionate price.  Lab rats in a cage.  The spread of covid does not often come from fully vaccinated foreign residents living quietly at their Thai homes.

06 10 2021  I know it is early to expect a definite answer but I wonder about whether the COE will remain in place.  When will residents be able to arrive at Suvarnabhumi Airport (w/o COE) with negative tests and just go home?  I have had 3 shots and will be getting a covid passport as well as having the mor Chana app up to date on my phone.  I have a retirement 'O' visa, pink card and yellow book and an agreeable bank balance.  Here are the instructions sent to me by 'R' (thank you) explaining how to apply for a COE.  (He has given me permission to post this).   How on earth can the authorities think that this will not be a bar to tourism.  In their whole 'Sandbox' scheme where are residents considered?  I spend over 1M THB annually in my local village buying things for our family and employing local people for various projects.  I don't want 'special treatment' but... 'Giz a brake Guv'.  There already is the TM6 issued on arrival and the immigration personnel already check identity and destination and money issues.  I can understand how they want to be careful about backpackers wandering around but why create so many problems for those who live here legally and have a home to go to?  Thanks for any comments.

 

 

Documents required for Certificate of Entry: 

 

1)    Colour Scan of Passport ID Page

2)    Copy of Marriage Certificate

3)    Colour Scan of Insurance Document which states you are insured to US$100,000 in the event of complications due to Covid-19

4)    Copy of SHABA Plus Booking Certificate (it has to be Plus, not just SHA)

5)    Copy of RETURN Flight Booking / Confirmation (return if visa exempt arrival) – Flights need to be ‘direct to Phuket’ (i.e. Qatar Airways / Emirates etc) – I’m not certain about transit options through Bangkok with Thai Airways (but I think they are the only airline which is permitting Sandbox transit passengers in Bangkok).

6)    Copy of PSAS PCR test booking

 

Securing Documents: 

1)    Hotel Bookings – Book the hotel (can be booked via Agoda etc) – the hotel may require the Agoda booking receipt (if they do, e-mail agoda for their specific receipt of payment < [email protected] >.

2)    The Hotel will E-mail the SHABA Hotel Booking Certificate which is required for the PCR Booking.

3)    Next Step: PCR Booking Web page: https://www.thailandpsas.com .

4)    Register and log in, submit the SHABA number (from the hotel SHABA certificate).

5)    Register flight arrival (there will be PCR test on arrival).

6)    Register PCR test on Day 6 (Nearest to Rawai is Kata Centre).

7)    Register PCR test on Day 12.

????    Pay online for the 3x PCR tests (about 8000 baht I think).

9)    Download the PSAS PCR Booking receipt (this will need to be submitted with the CoE application).

 

 

Process: 

1)    Log onto the following Website https://coethailand.mfa.go.th

2)    First Page: 

-       Country you are flying from: i.e. UK / France etc

-       Embassy Selection – Select your local Embassy in the country from which you are applying (i.e. London / Paris)

-       Types of Permitted Persons: 3 - Spouse  

-       Entering – Sandbox.

-       Which Sandbox – Phuket.

3)    Next page: No need to add name of agent etc: 

4)    Sign in with Name / Passport # etc.

5)    Contact details outside of Thailand (home address etc).

6)    Contact details inside Thailand (address of Wife etc & number).

7)    Contact Person in case of Emergency (Wife etc).

????    Vaccine Info: You will need your Vaccine certificate 

-       Thai issued vaccine certificate (if issued in Thailand)

-       Overseas vaccine certificate (if issued overseas)

9)    Attach documents:

-       Passport ID Page 

-       Extension of Stay Permission (scan of page)

-       Insurance  Certificate (see examples) 

-       Marriage Certificate

NOTE: (after drag and drop you have to click the upload icon on each image)

10) Attachments for further consideration (can leave this blank).

11) Submit all the info: 

12) You will receive an e-mail from the Thai Embassy informing you that your application for CoE has been confirmed, you will be given a 6 digit pin.

13) You will next receive an e-mail from the Thai Embassy, informing that you your application for CoE has been Pre-approved.

14) Log in to the Website https://coethailand.mfa.go.th – upload travel Data section,  use your PIN to log in.

15) Upload your Flight Details.

16) Input your reference number from the SHABA certificate (the accommodating will automatically come up).

17) Upload the PSAS PCR booking receipt.

18) If necessary upload insurance certificate (again – I didn’t need to do this). 

 

19) IF all is correct you will next receive an e-mail from the Thai Embassy informing that you your application for CoE has been approved – your CoE will be attached to that e-mail.

 

20) Arrival in Phuket – have  Smart Phone (charged) / download Mor Chana app 

 

Pre-Flight:

1)    Preflight PCR test (meeting time restrictions).

2)    Fill out the TM8 form (I’ve attached that).

3)    Have a paper copy of all documents with you.

 

Arrival: 

1)    Extremely well organised

2)    About 50 ppl in Hazmat suits to welcome you !

3)    Documents will be checked and rechecked !

4)    Use the QR code (on posters everywhere) and download the Mor Chana App onto smart phone (for Track and Trace). 

5)    Once the paperwork checks are complete go through Immigration

6)    Collect baggage as normal

7)    After the baggage hall and customs passengers will be guided towards the PCR test. 

????    Your Dad will be given a ‘website’ at which he can download the PCR test result (which should arrive that evening – within a few hours) – the PCR test result will also be e-mailed. 

9)    IF hotel has arranged transport they will be waiting after the PCR test area. 

10) SHA+ approved taxis are also there. 

Add to that list: Krungthai and Kasikorn banks.  They will require a retirement visa or (?) but internet banking is arranged when you open your account.  Bangkok bank has a foreign account service at head office in BKK.  I keep an account there in Euros. If you want to take your money out of Thailand you can easily with this account. It is recognized as money on deposit in Thailand for immigration financial qualifying purposes.  For internet transfers select 'share' on the confirmation screen and post it on LINE  to yourself (memo) and the receiver and anyone else you want to notify of the payment (multiple postings poss.) .  Works a treat.

An 'O' visa is the one to try for.  For my existing one I do not need health insurance, important as I am over 70, although I don't know if new 'O' visas have this advantage.  Also an OA expires, I learned of from this forum, in 20 years.  How to identify (locate) a competent and honest agent?