Just now, petermik said:

A couple of weeks in the Bangkok hilton is appropriate

Why ? The Bangkok Hilton typically houses drug dealers, murderers etc, and give the gentlemen is neither a drug dealer or murdererer why would the BIB put him in there ?

One suspects this whole headline and story has been "sexed up" the berserk russian is most likey an irate Russian who argued with someone else who was going the toilet first and i am calling BS on the 1/2 bottle of whiskey on the seat, you dont get away with that stuff anymore, drinking your duty free on the flight 

When you got to go, you got go 

3 minutes ago, ilostmypassword said:

This is funny. One of the poster who "liked" your post, said he lives in Southern California and he didn't know anyone who voted for Hillary Clinton.  So how much significance should we attach to the personal experience of one poster?  I'd say none.

What are you bleating on about, i personally know of at least 8 Canadians living in Thailand and all share the same sentiment i referred to in  a previous post 

On 29/01/2017 at 9:11 AM, harada said:

It's endemic throughout Thai society, and until upcoming generations have role models in high places who can set examples things will not change, and I can't see that happening any time soon. 

Er the Thailand end of this is small fry compared to what Rolls Royce have been getting up to world wide as regards bribery and corruption 

So maybe your holier than thou comments should be passed on to London and the Rolls Royce board of directors, who as normal " know nothing" and maybe they can set an example ? 

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/jan/19/what-did-rolls-royce-directors-know-about-bribery-scandal-no-comment

1 hour ago, mogandave said:

 

 

I have not seen many of the sore losers being called out.

If you call everyone Hitler, and everything a constitutional crisis, when a real Hitler or crisis comes along, no one will believe you.
 

 

 

Cry wolf....the cultural marxists are brilliant at it...Lenin, Stalin and other communist leaders used it even more effectively than Hitler to keep people from voicing their opinion

27 minutes ago, kowpot said:

THE AMERICAS

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau says Canada welcomes refugees

Published January 29, 2017 

 FoxNews.co

 

 

 

Well, good then.  I guess Canada will have to pay for the other wall!!

 

 

 

Funny that, every Canadian i know, and i know a few have big concerns about refugees and immigrants arriving in Canada with their hands out looking for freebies 

6 hours ago, dunroaming said:

Petition to stop Trumps UK State visit now at 500,000 and climbing. Fasted rising official government petition ever ( that's what is being reported but not officially confirmed yet)
 

No the fastest rising one was the false Brexit one when the  arrogant cultural marxists in the UK realised the people had spoken and wanted out the EU and they tried to petition because they were too lazy to vote

Let me guess who is reporting this ? The BBC or one of the other leftie liberal news sources with their alternative truths ? 

Just now, Thian said:

If you enter Singapore they always take your fingerprints..also for tourists...no big deal, give me a safe feeling as i have nothing to hide.

Take whose finger prints as a toursit in Singapore ? Thai nationals ? [email protected] Mrs regularly goes with me to Singapore and never once has she been finger printed...stop telling lies or trolling 

1 minute ago, CWMcMurray said:

 

 

Good movie, quite funny

But was just showing that it is not just 'looney left' or liberals who want 'open borders' against this

There are those all across the spectrum both left and right against this


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Rev. Steve Martin, communications director for the National Council of Christians—one of the largest coalitions of Christian churches in the country.

3 minutes ago, CWMcMurray said:

Have put a link for below on fox news, so you will know it is not some 'liberal lie'

The ban is not just on refugees but all those with valid visas as well

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/01/27/trump-signs-executive-order-for-extreme-vetting-refugees.html

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The executive order also suspends visa entry into the U.S. from seven countries that have predominately Muslim populations. They include: Syria, Iran, Iraq, Somalia, Libya, Sudan and Yemen.

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As for re-vetting at airport, it is certainly possible in some cases...

In fact that is what is currently done .. if some one has a valid visa, airlines will let them board

Then if the immigration officer at the airport believes their is some reason the person should not be let in or if the person is flagged in the system .. they are taken to a room to follow up and determine if person can be let in or not

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Why do you keep referring to a valid visa ? As stated a visa does not gurantee entry into a country anyway, its down to the immigration officer chopping one in 

10 minutes ago, CWMcMurray said:

Some more conservatives...


Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), wasn’t alone in its outrage. Awad was also flanked by Muslim, Jewish, and Christian leaders, including Rev. Steve Martin, communications director for the National Council of Christians—one of the largest coalitions of Christian churches in the country.
“I’ve been away of the rising tide of Islamophobia for a number of years,” he said, his voice rising. “I can’t even believe that things are getting as bad as they are—that state sponsored persecution of a class of people is happening.”
“We explicitly condemn any religious test for refugees,” he added.


People of faith, this is the moment we are called to,” Sister Simone Campbell, head of Catholic social justice lobby NETWORK, told the crowd. “This is our time to stand up for those who are struggling.”

Below is a list of faith groups and leaders condemning the order.

Alliance of Baptists
American Jewish World Service
Auburn Seminary
Baptist Joint Committee for Religious Liberty
Bend the Arc
Catholic Relief Services
Christian Church (Disciples of Christ)
Church of the Brethren
Church World Service

+ 29 more religious organizations and tons of religious leaders..

Need to put a link, as to many to copy and paste

https://thinkprogress.org/faith-groups-country-immigrants-muslim-b22798233c90#.d2xgp0yob

Wrong is wrong .. this is not a left/ right issue


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On 28/01/2017 at 9:22 AM, simon43 said:

 

 

 

So perhaps the forum owners should consider suspending these Google adverts until/unless this problem is resolved?

 

ethics and all that, you know......

Given Dan Cheeseman, the head honcho of TV, has commented on anorher related thread, maybe direct your comments towards him, as it seems apparant he actually is reading and responding on the forums to specific topics - post 161 

Just now, stevenl said:

And a federal judge disagrees with Trump.

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The beauty of democracy, the liberal social  marxists wish to over turn 

1 minute ago, Andaman Al said:

He is keeping no promises. he is running with his populace strategy. He is feeding the mob what they want to be fed. He is just signing executive orders, all of which MUST be approved by congress and the Senate.

 

One of the first executive orders Obama signed was to close Guantanamo Bay. That did not do him much good. It was an order rejected by congress. Then when Guantanamo was not closed as Obama promised, you all blamed Obama.

All Politians get elected into office using populist stratgies and feeding the mob...so maybe a bit less of lastest newspeak term "populist" and the inferrence its something new or bad....

5 minutes ago, CWMcMurray said:

Have not seen anything mentioned in the executive order that allows for the re-vetting just a ban..

Also why not re-vet him at the airport and then release?

Or revise the visa process and instruct all
Visa holders to provide additional information needed for
Re-vetting within a certain time frame or they will be black listed

There are many ways that re-vetting can be done if needed but a straight ban on everyone with valid visas and green cards is not a good way to do it

I have backed Trump in other posts and have pushed all to give him a chance..

But no one is perfect and if some one is wrong, we need to hold them accountable

On this , I think he is dead wrong to be banning those with valid visas and green cards or duel citizenship from entering the US

Do you really think this is a good thing and the best and fairest way to proceed?

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I think until they figure out what exactly they are dealing with its the only sensible measure and one can only hope Europe and the UK take inspiration from Donald Trump leadership and grow some nads and do exactly the same 

6 minutes ago, CWMcMurray said:

 

 

Yes a green card is a valid visa that also allows to work.

Also sure it is true that a visa does not guarantee entry...

But if having a valid visa or green card it makes sense that they should only be denied if there is good reason to deny them ..

for example if it is found they lied on the application and this comes to light, or their situation has changed in some way that they no longer qualify for a visa or it is found they committed some crime or mis deed

What is not reasonable is to go to sleep with a valid green card or visa and then wake up in the morning and finding out you can't go back to your home of residence and your job due to no fault or misdeed of your own

I'm. It sure if you are living and working in Thailand, but many here are..

What if you have a job and a valid work permit and visa in Thailand.. found out your father was sick and fly back home to visit him in the hospital

Then fly back to Thailand and are told at the airport.. sorry you are banned from entering Thailand even though you have a valid visa and did nothing wrong

That your family is in Thailand.. so what... that you have a job in Thailand .. so what ...that everything you own is in Thailand, except what is in your suitcase.. so what...

You whole life is just destroyed , even though you have done everything correctly and have all the visa and work permits needed

Just because some one has the power to do something , doesn't mean it is correct for them
To do it...


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And i am sure once the gentlemen has been revetted he will be allowed back into the US to continue work

My comments were intended to address the legal and technical aspects, not the moral ones

And what happens if this guy is revetted and something turns up ? 

1 minute ago, jcsmith said:

1) Considering all Americans other than the Native Americans/American Indians are immigrants. That was the American Dream until Trump. What gives him the right to say decide that? You do realize that many of the best technical minds, and scientists in America are immigrants? That without immigrants we would have never been the first to the moon?

2) Christian Extremists have used the word of the bible to do the same. They destroyed unrecoverable artifacts of the past, they eradicated others on the basis of it. You can't judge an entire religion by its most radical elements. Like I've said before if you do that then you have to judge Christianity based on the whackos blowing up abortion clinics.

3) Sure, but again you are completely missing the point. Less than 1% of the murders in America in the past 15 years have been as a result of muslim terrorism. Radical right wing groups have murdered more in that same time frame. 

His excellency Donald J Trump, President and Commander in Chief of the United States of America disagrees with you

9 minutes ago, CWMcMurray said:

 

 

Trump did not just stop refugees..

He has banned people from entering into the US who have valid visas and green cards

Not just refugees but everyone..

Some of these people are long time LEGAL residents in the US with jobs and families

Saw a case where a programmer working at google went back home to see a dying father... now can not come back to the US... his family is here and he has a legal visa and permission to work in the US with a green card

But now not able to come back home?

That's just crazy


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A visa is no gurantee you will be allowed into any country,  

PR although having unhindered right of abode, can have that right removed if conditions warrant it and thats a fact not just in the US 

As regards your example, a bit confused, i stand to be corrected a green card confers employment rights and one doesnt need a visa if one has a green card,

so there seems to be some technical inaccuracies in the example,

further US authorites are perfectly with in their rights to deny entry to non citizens if the circumstances warrant it..in this case the persons concerned are not citizens

This is the same in many countries not just the US  

2 minutes ago, nottocus said:

Good job President Trump

That remains to be seen, but at the very least at the moment he is keeping his election promises, which is very unusual for a politian, so that counts for something 

2 minutes ago, JetsetBkk said:

That nice Mr Obama would never have done anything as nasty  as banning refugees for 4 months.

No, he did it for 6:

 

"the State Department in 2011 stopped processing Iraq refugee requests for six months after the Federal Bureau of Investigation uncovered evidence that several dozen terrorists from Iraq had infiltrated the United States via the refugee program."

http://www.wnd.com/2017/01/2011-obama-paused-iraq-refugee-program-for-6-months/

 

"the State Department stopped processing Iraq refugees for six months in 2011 even for many who had heroically helped U.S. forces as interpreters and intelligence assets. One Iraqi who had aided American troops was assassinated before his refugee application could be processed, because of the immigration delays"

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/al-qaeda-kentucky-us-dozens-terrorists-country-refugees/story?id=20931131

 

 

Conclusive proof that  Mr Obama was mentally ill during his Presidency ? 

1 hour ago, Mook23 said:

true but they aren't exactly the brightest people. no offense but most farlangs live here cuz they can't afford costa de sol or balearics... and because yoni is available on each corner of the street. ask harry!

Most believe they should be given a work permit solely on basis of the fact they are white and from a western country 

On 28/01/2017 at 7:47 PM, wakeupplease said:

Can they get any tighter for a Farang in Thiland?

Take it from someone who has worked in the order of 26 countries including Thailand.

Thailand doesnt even come close to the top of the table in the difficulty or "tighter" stakes, in fact based on my experiences, Thailand is one of the easiest to get approved for provided your skills and knowlege are in need  

8 minutes ago, kowpot said:

He is not banning U.S. citizens. Some people with "green cards" are being stopped at airports in the banned countries. Those with Alien Registration Cards "green cards" are permanent residents, not U.S. citizens. As such, they can lose their status as permanent residents.

So more alternative truths told by the MSM then ?  as your quite correct green card holders are not US citzens, and therefore the phrase dual citizens in their case is not true either, they are not dual citizens, they are citizens of 1 country with Permanent residence in the US

11 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Many of his colleagues suspect as much. It's not off the table. Psychiatric screening is unfortunately not required of presidents. He has the nuclear football. Wouldn't be the first mentally ill president. Nixon suffered from paranoid schizophrenia.

So you know many of his collegues then ? 

According to this link numerous previous Presidents were mentally ill, so he would be in good company if true, including JKF and Bill Clinton  

http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2015/11/01/435902/Lyndon-Johnson-JFK-Nixon-Obama-Clinton-mental-illness

1 minute ago, mogandave said:

I would like to know what the vetting process involves. I find the idea that it is even possible accurately vet anyone from many countries.



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Well heres the thing if one cant accurately vet someone then the simple answer, dont let them in then " we reserve the right to admit..etc "